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mico

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:23 am
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Hi all,

So I got my summons. It's just for speeding and
the copper noted conditions fine,dry,good etc.
so not too bad...

It seems I have the option to plead guilty
immediately and return the papers with a
letter of mitigation and let the system
deal with that.

I really don't know whether that is the best
course of action. Is there really anything
to gain from going to court considering it
was a 'fair-cop' and my only reason for the
excess speed was not wanting to be late for
my new job? Is not wanting to waste courts
time read as a good thing?

Anyway, I read in places that if they are
considering a ban, then you will have to
attend. But no mention of this on the forms
I got.

Hmmm, what to do? If I'm getting a ban (likely)
I'd really rather not delay it.

thanks,

mico

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:42 am
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 > Hmmm, what to do? If I'm getting a ban (likely)
 > I'd really rather not delay it.

I asked the group this last year or so ago - not for speeding, but
using a bus lane. It was a court summons rather than a fixed penalty
notice - I wrote a (groveling) letter of mitigation and pled guilty by
post but got £30 fine + £45 costs (I think). Not sure the difference
not going made, but saved me wasting a day.

You might not be facing a ban though - would you normally get the
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:37 pm
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 13:23:13 GMT, "mico" <mic.TakeThisOut@tazm.org> allegedly wrote:

 > I really don't know whether that is the best
 > course of action. Is there really anything
 > to gain from going to court considering it
 > was a 'fair-cop' and my only reason for the
 > excess speed was not wanting to be late for
 > my new job?

If you're bang to rights, then own up. They've heard nearly every excuse
possible, and aren't likely to buy it - let's face it, everyone is going
to come up with an excuse. Don't know if you'll definitely get a stiffer
fine by going to court, but it certainly won't be less, and you want it
over and done with. So get over it, and get it done.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:56 pm
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mico wrote:
 > Hi all,
 >
 > So I got my summons. It's just for speeding and
 > the copper noted conditions fine,dry,good etc.
 > so not too bad...

How fast were you going?
 >
 > It seems I have the option to plead guilty
 > immediately and return the papers with a
 > letter of mitigation and let the system
 > deal with that.
 >
 > I really don't know whether that is the best
 > course of action. Is there really anything
 > to gain from going to court considering it
 > was a 'fair-cop' and my only reason for the
 > excess speed was not wanting to be late for
 > my new job? Is not wanting to waste courts
 > time read as a good thing?
 >
 > Anyway, I read in places that if they are
 > considering a ban, then you will have to
 > attend. But no mention of this on the forms
 > I got.
Is the prospect of a ban due to totting up or due to speed being 30 mph
over limit?
 >
 > Hmmm, what to do? If I'm getting a ban (likely)
 > I'd really rather not delay it.
 >

As part of my job I have to visit magistrates courts and over the years
I have developed a working relationship with the senior court clerk.
When I was stopped last August for 101.5 in a 70 I asked for advice from
him.

His advice was to employ a solicitor to plead and when the papers came
through he recommended a particular firm.

FWIW the solicitor wrote to the court advising that the "30 mph over
rule" is quite arbitrary and, as I was close to it, admitted the
offence, had a clean licence etc and would pay up on demand it was
hardly worth a visit to court.

The court accepted that and dealt with the case in my absense fining me
300 sovs, 40 sovs costs and 6 points.(1)

Oh and the solicitor represented me at no cost.

HTH

1. It would have been worth the solicitors fees just to not have to
listen to some sanctimoious old duffer on the bench saying "Well Mr
GasMan if your licence is so important to you .......etc"
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:04 pm
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justcalledfubar RemoveThis @ntlworld.com wrote:
  >> Hmmm, what to do? If I'm getting a ban (likely)
  >> I'd really rather not delay it.
 >
 > I asked the group this last year or so ago - not for speeding, but
 > using a bus lane. It was a court summons rather than a fixed penalty
 > notice - I wrote a (groveling) letter of mitigation and pled guilty by
 > post but got £30 fine + £45 costs (I think). Not sure the difference
 > not going made, but saved me wasting a day.
 >
 > You might not be facing a ban though - would you normally get the
 > option of pleading guilty by post if it were the case?

You can still plead guilty and if they are considering a ban then you will
be told you have to attend
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:22 pm
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GasMan wrote:

<snip>

 > As part of my job I have to visit magistrates courts and over the
 > years I have developed a working relationship with the senior court
 > clerk. When I was stopped last August for 101.5 in a 70 I asked for
 > advice from him.
 >
 > His advice was to employ a solicitor to plead and when the papers
 > came through he recommended a particular firm.
 >
 > FWIW the solicitor wrote to the court advising that the "30 mph over
 > rule" is quite arbitrary and, as I was close to it, admitted the
 > offence, had a clean licence etc and would pay up on demand it was
 > hardly worth a visit to court.
 >
 > The court accepted that and dealt with the case in my absense fining
 > me 300 sovs, 40 sovs costs and 6 points.(1)
 >
 > Oh and the solicitor represented me at no cost.
 >
 > HTH
 >
 > 1. It would have been worth the solicitors fees just to not have to
 > listen to some sanctimoious old duffer on the bench saying "Well Mr
 > GasMan if your licence is so important to you .......etc" --
 >
Given the recent weather, couldn't you have just got on your skis?


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