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Since: Jun 01, 2007 Posts: 394
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(Msg. 46) Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:02 pm
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On Aug 7, 1:52 pm, Domino <rechazo.t....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm well-spoken
> Did you spit or swallow afterwards?
You're coarse, crude, callow, hateful, bigoted, and disgusting.
What a joyless existence your life must be. >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: Jul 18, 2007 Posts: 15
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(Msg. 47) Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:18 pm
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On Aug 7, 12:02?pm, "tomor...@erols.com"
> You're coarse, crude, callow, hateful, bigoted, and disgusting.
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> What a joyless existence your life must be.
Why do you hang around bikers if you can't take the verbal abuse?
You know how it works.
If you treat me nice, I'll treat you better, but if you treat me bad,
I'll treat you worse.
You could have kept your nose out of this, but now you're in it, and
whatever happens, you own it. >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: Jun 01, 2007 Posts: 394
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(Msg. 48) Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:29 pm
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On Aug 7, 3:18 pm, Domino <rechazo.t... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 12:02?pm, "tomor...@erols.com"
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> > You're coarse, crude, callow, hateful, bigoted, and disgusting.
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> > What a joyless existence your life must be.
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> Why do you hang around bikers if you can't take the verbal abuse?
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> You know how it works.
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> If you treat me nice, I'll treat you better, but if you treat me bad,
> I'll treat you worse.
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> You could have kept your nose out of this, but now you're in it, and
> whatever happens, you own it.
Whatever happens? Oooooooh, that sounds threatening. Look, you're
old, you're hateful, you're used up, no one likes you, and you hate
everyone. I understand. You're just like Motown Moto was, but much,
much, much worse. As with Moto, I plan to outlive you. Once you're
dead and out of the way, there will be more civil discussions, more on-
topic debate, and less hate, divisiveness, racism, and homophobic
spittle flinging, both in reeky and AMS, as well as any other forums
that are unfortunate enough to have to put up with your nonsense.
The world will be a better place then. Hurry along, now. >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: Jul 17, 2006 Posts: 548
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:14 pm
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proehling wrote:
> "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2005 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote
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>> A little humor is just what this sick thread needed Bryan, besides a
>> Tombstone. Anyway, I think ole' Krusty is often misunderstood and in
>> reality contributes more to this NG than 90% of the other regular
>> posters. Nuff said!
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> Uh, Krusty's problem is that he's understood all too well, Bob.
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> He wants to contribute on-topic threads to the newsgroup? Fine and good! We
> understand that, and nobody's going to criticize him for it.
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> He wants to "contribute" an OT rant on the evils of the 'lesser races'? We
> understand that too. And that's why all of those buildings keep falling on
> the poor little innocent thing.
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> In short: his on-topic posts don't absolve him from his racist ones, and
> there are far too many decent people on alt.sportbike for you to expect them
> to lie down silently in the face of evil.
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>
Bwuuhahaha....'the face of EVIL!!!!!'. (Do you really speak like this,
or is it just when you type?)
Comedy plus. The big joke is whites are the global minority. if a guy
doesn't like blacks, he should be able to say so. It's OK for you to say
you don't like guys who don't like blacks? Attitudeism should be the new
racism.....don't like people because of their attitude?
You should come down and go for a tour of the East coast and see how you
get treated by the Maori bro's in the pubs......especially if your'e on
a Harley. Don't expect a good time. You don't even have to say
anything....you'll get the old "what are you looking at?" routine where
no matter what you say, you will be wrong. (Of course this is a
generalisation, but it comes from first hand experience)
There are racists in every race, but only white racists seem to get
singled out because the black racists are deemed to be the poor
'minority'. Bollocks to that I say. >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: Jun 23, 2003 Posts: 154
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:14 pm
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"Domino" <rechazo.todo.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote
> If the Germans hadn't rounded up all the Jewish refugees and
> exterminated them, the French would have done it. They had the same
> problems with Jews dominating their politics and arts and academia as
> Germany had.
Hey, BrianNZ; still think there's no such thing as evil? And that you aren't
witnessing it in action?
Krusty just won my argument for me. >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: Jul 17, 2006 Posts: 548
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(Msg. 51) Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:30 pm
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BryanUT wrote:
> "Domino" <rechazo.todo.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1186438987.880722.131310@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>> You don't have a clue about the ideals that made America, all you know
>> is the foreign immigrant interpretation of the values of *my*
>> ancestors who founded America for me and my brothers and cousins.
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> Krusty's son, he is so proud:
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> http://blog.courttv.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/allgier.jpg
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No different to any 'Black Power' gang member down here......(except for
the word 'white' being 'black'.)
I'd accuse you of being a 'tattoooist', but that titles already taken! >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: Jun 23, 2003 Posts: 154
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(Msg. 52) Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:46 pm
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<tomorrow.RemoveThis@erols.com> wrote
>> You could have kept your nose out of this, but now you're in it, and
>> whatever happens, you own it.
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> Whatever happens? Oooooooh, that sounds threatening.
See above in this same thread where he's trying to threaten my wife.
Takes a real man to do that sort of thing, you know. >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: Jun 29, 2006 Posts: 266
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:22 am
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tomorrow.DeleteThis@erols.com <tomorrow.DeleteThis@erols.com> wrote:
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> Well said. Glad that you are coming around to actually recognize
> racist thought. Now all you have to do is start applying that
> newfound insight to your OWN stereotypical group thinking.
I judge individuals individually.
Your problem is you refuse to recognize that there is some basis of
validity to racial stereotypes. You refuse to acknowledge this because
you (and everyone else who finds themselves disgusted with what I have
said in this thread) find the concept distasteful. Because I do not
deny such concepts, I am labeled as a racist. Oh well, I can deal with that.
If a few of us continue to bring up such topics in public, eventually people
will become comfortable with it, and will be able to discuss race issues
without instantly branding some of us racists.
Wouldn't you say racial profiling makes use of stereotypes to find
criminals? Well, racial profiling is what recovered my stolen car
only 3 days after it has been stolen. A couple undercover cops on a
stake out (for something unrelated to my situation) saw 4 black men
get out of my Mercury Grand Marquis after pulling into the parking lot
of an apartment complex. All they did was park the car, and walk into the
complex. The cops decided to run the plates on my car, saw it was stolen,
and I got my car back. Do you think they would have run my plates if
they saw me, a clean cut white guy, getting out of the car? No - but they
saw 4 black guys get out of a big "non-pimped" up car, and got suspicious
for no other reason than it was out of character. Pretty damned racist.
Saved me a lot of money.
- Kurt >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: May 25, 2005 Posts: 190
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(Msg. 54) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:39 am
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"~kurt" <actinouranium.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:13bfme8fu45iub8@corp.supernews.com...
> BryanUT <nestle12.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Tim is 100% correct on this issue. It is not the race, it is the
>> individual.
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> This doesn't change the fact that there are cultural issues tied to
> races that lead to the stereotypes that Tim and others claim disgust
> them. I'd like to see how their opinions change after living in, say,
> an all black community, and putting their kids in the local public
> schools.
> They have never lived under these conditions, and have never fully
> experienced such "culture". It is very easy to be such an idealist
> when
> your experience with such people is only from afar.
>
I've roomed with a black, a Jew, an Iranian, and one Japanese. One
night we walked into a bar....... >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: Jul 17, 2006 Posts: 548
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(Msg. 55) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:02 am
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proehling wrote:
> "Domino" <rechazo.todo.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote
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>> If the Germans hadn't rounded up all the Jewish refugees and
>> exterminated them, the French would have done it. They had the same
>> problems with Jews dominating their politics and arts and academia as
>> Germany had.
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> Hey, BrianNZ; still think there's no such thing as evil? And that you aren't
> witnessing it in action?
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> Krusty just won my argument for me.
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>
An opinion on 'what might have been in history' is just that, an
opinion. And everyone is entitled to have one!
He is not saying "Round up all the Jews and kill them, NOW!". (Which is
evil). He's saying the Euro's 'in that time' had the same feelings
towards the Jews.
Is this the only part of his history post you disagree with? >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: Jun 23, 2003 Posts: 154
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(Msg. 56) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:00 am
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"Jamin" <notme RemoveThis @notmymail.com> wrote
> He's free to speak his mind. You're free to disagree. I see much more
> venom
> coming from you and Tim in this discussion than I do from Krusty or Kurt,
> though.
So telling someone he's a bigot is worse in your eyes than issuing threats?
Or even threatening a posters wife?
Okay, so that tells us where *you* stand. >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: May 01, 2006 Posts: 329
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(Msg. 57) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:25 pm
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On 8/8/07 11:00 AM, "proehling" wrote:
> So telling someone he's a bigot is worse in your eyes than issuing threats?
> Or even threatening a posters wife?
>
I didn't read any threats. Regarding your wife, I don't know what that was
all about. There was a link posted about some art events in 2006 and nothing
said about it. Is that supposed to be ominously threatening?
I didn't say your behavior was worse or better than Krusty's. What I said
was that I see more venom (anger) coming from you than from him in this
discussion. I'm not saying you shouldn't be angry. I'm merely telling you
what I see.
> Okay, so that tells us where *you* stand.
>
More melodrama. Don't be so sure you've got me all figured out. What I see
is some people getting very hostile, and others less so. That's all I'm
talking about. Speaking for myself, the more wound up and hysterical people
get, the less likely I am to take them seriously.
--
Jamin
"Freedom costs a buck-oh-five"
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Since: Jul 17, 2006 Posts: 548
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(Msg. 58) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:28 pm
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Domino wrote:
> On Aug 7, 2:37 pm, BrianNZ <br....RemoveThis@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
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>> And this is why these opinions should be aired. I don't know all the ins
>> & outs of Euro politics back then. I take everything I read with a grain
>> of salt. Now I have two opposing posts painting a different picture of
>> the same era, so I will await "Domino's" comeback to see if he can add
>> to his argument......otherwise I will have to bow to your superior
>> knowledge.
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> If you watch movies about WW2, you see exaggerated dramatizations of
> sadistic Nazis tormenting innocent Jews the same way a sadistic child
> might have tormented a helpless kitten.
I have also watched documentaries of the death camps, and the TV
versions pale in comparison to the real thing. There is no doubt in my
mind that the Jews were tormented by sadists....to the death! But that
same fate was dealt to many millions of Russians as well, which we hear
little about. It hasn't just been Jews who have suffered through the ages.
On a smaller (but not less deadly) scale, Concentration camps were an
English invention to subdue those pesky Boers.......
<snip informative history lesson>
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> So, you can see that there was a century of emancipation and
> liberation in Europe for both the Jews and the Christian Gentiles. But
> the Jews were often better educated and wealthy, so the less fortunate
> Gentiles always felt disadvantaged and there was a fertile ground for
> for antisemitic discontent.
Since the Jews had been barred from guilds, only permitted to be bankers
and merchants, forced to live in 'jewish' areas, and wear distinctive
clothing.....it's understandable they 'lived apart and grew
wealthy'....they had little choice but to do as they were told (and know
what to do) or be killed!
>
> It actually had nothing to do with religious differences and
> everything to do with
> culture and class disputes over who had the right to live and work in
> any given country.
That pretty well sums it up. Luckily it's all peace love & harmony these
days............. >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: Jun 23, 2003 Posts: 154
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(Msg. 59) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:59 pm
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"Jamin" <notme.TakeThisOut@notmymail.com> wrote
>> So telling someone he's a bigot is worse in your eyes than issuing
>> threats?
>> Or even threatening a posters wife?
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> I didn't read any threats.
Ah. Then you're not very bright. >> Stay informed about: Old wanabe |
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Since: May 01, 2006 Posts: 329
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(Msg. 60) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:55 pm
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On 8/8/07 1:59 PM, "proehling" wrote:
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> "Jamin" <notme DeleteThis @notmymail.com> wrote
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>>> So telling someone he's a bigot is worse in your eyes than issuing
>>> threats?
>>> Or even threatening a posters wife?
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>> I didn't read any threats.
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> Ah. Then you're not very bright.
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>
Quit being a jackass. You're how old? Right now sounds like 17.
Show me where you or anyone was actually threatened. Or point me to the
approx date/time so I can scan back through the thread. Maybe I missed
something.
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