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(Msg. 91) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:03 pm
Post subject: Re: Anyone ride with high beams on all day [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:34:54 +0000, smn wrote:
> And possibly, if you have your high beam on, the lane-changing car may
> underestimate your speed, and think they have time to turn. Just a
> thought...
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
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> That's right but if you are cautious like me if you cannot judge the
> speed of something you do not
> place yourself infront of it unless you think nothing can happen to you
> if you are wrong.
> Lets face it they are surrounded by steel therefore they could care less
> about doing what is right.
Well steel does not necessarily mean safety either though.
This girl I knew got in an accident once in front of my parents store.
She was late for work and was in a hurry and neglected to see the big
pickup coming down the road before making her left turn.
It T-Boned her passenger side and pushed the door in far enough to
actually hit her right arm. Her car was a brand new ford mustang, which
had some pretty decent doors and the truck wasn't moving at more than
your average 40-50mph on that road.
Had it impacted her drivers side, or had a passenger been in the car,
either her or the passenger would likely not be alive.
Steel? Safe? No.
Safe"r"? Maybe.
People are far more vulnerable than they think they are in their cages,
though most would never believe it.
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(Msg. 92) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:43 pm
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:33:35 -0400, "Joey Tribiani" wrote:
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|>"smn" wrote in message
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|>> Friend of mine took a MC safety course and they said use high
|>> beams(daytime) because drivers still do not see you. That was after I
|>> told him a lady almost creamed while I was going straight from a stop
|>> light and she was turning left. It's not fair that everything I do has
|>> to do with correcting drivers poor habits but it is true.
|>> What do you do for survival and has anyone taken a safety course that
|>> can shed some light?
|>>
|>> thank you in advance
|>>
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|>always highbeams for me during the day...
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Always hi-beams in the day, and sometimes in the evening, if I'm on
a right curb of a 4 lane road....
It all varies, you know, if they don't like your beam, they'll flick
theirs up too...tit for tat...seen that....now I can see them....
Flicking a beam is just a softer than a small horn toot
once....depending on the situation, most people don't interpret it as
anything much...or more it could be they interpret it as the cycle hit a
bump and the lights are pointing up<<-->down...whatever.
I flick hi in poorly lit ped areas,, on 1 way roads.....it's
something you just do from instinct...M/C are hard to see unless you weave,
not like a one eyed car.
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(Msg. 93) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:47 pm
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:23:35 +1200, BrianNZ wrote:
|>smn wrote:
|>> Friend of mine took a MC safety course and they said use high beams(daytime)
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|>I'll be riding with no lights on by summer.....as soon as I get an
|>'on-off' switch wired up. Less advance warning for plod to get his radar
|>ready.
What at night too???? Don't step on anything slippery there...
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(Msg. 94) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:52 pm
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On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:53:39 +0000 (UTC), "Justin" wrote:
|>: Friend of mine took a MC safety course and they said use high beams(daytime)
|>: because drivers still do not see you.
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|>High beams all day long, always. As a general rule I go to low beams only
|>when I notice that car drivers are starting to light up for the evening.
Cars have beams on all the time, at least anything from 10 years
ago...they have all kinds of auto sensory configs for their light
situation...
Your hi-beam at night may dim theirs automatically.....not the best
set up there in the wonderful world of electronics..
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(Msg. 95) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:29 pm
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:59:22 -0700, Timberwoof
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|>In article , alf
|>wrote:
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|>> smn wrote:
|>> > Friend of mine took a MC safety course and they said use high
|>> > beams(daytime)
|>> > because drivers still do not see you. That was after I told him a lady
|>> > almost creamed while I was going straight from a stop light and she was
|>> > turning left. It's not fair that everything I do has to do with
|>> > correcting
|>> > drivers poor habits but it is true.
|>> > What do you do for survival and has anyone taken a safety course that
|>> > can shed some light?
|>> >
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|>>
|>> I would like to ride on the high beam but for some reason my FZ-1 shuts
|>> off low when high is activated (unlike in the car where both are on).
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|>Why is this a problem? My motorcycle behaves that way, too.
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|>There are two filaments in the bulb. They are in slightly different
|>positions and have different brightnesses. The intent is a high bean and
|>a low beam.
In a tripolar bulb, one filament is stand alone, and reflects
ambiently through out the reflective light casing/housing (hi-beams).
The other filament has a reflective metal cup at the bottom and
reflects the light to the top of the reflective light casing/housing causing
a (low-beam) view set to the right.....
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(Msg. 96) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:41 pm
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On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:51:42 -0700, "P. Roehling"
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|>I was splitting lanes one afternoon -this is in California, where it's
|>legal- when a brand-new gold Audi with out-of-State plates saw me coming up
|>behind him and tried to pull in front of me to prevent me from passing him.
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|>Alas, he didn't have enough room, and instead whacked the rear bumper of the
|>big black Ford pickup truck ahead of him. The big black pickup that had a
|>prominent "Harley Davidson" decal in the rear window, and an extremely
|>large, dirty, and hairy driver.
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|>Last thing I saw in my mirrors was the truck's driver getting out of his
|>truck to go back and have a word with the Audi's owner....
I think I would have looped back and stuck around to see that, as
well as providing an eyewitness deposition.....no problem with those trips.
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(Msg. 97) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:44 pm
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:37:33 -0700, Timberwoof
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|>> A H-D decal in the window is a sign of imminent danger to this Honda
|>> rider.
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|>It's puzzling how often guys dragging first bikes on trailers behind
|>bigass pickup trucks don't wave when I pass by on my motorcycle. :/
They wave at me, and I drive a Yamaha Majesty400 scooter type,
although the seat is modified to sit real low comparatively....
It's pretty hard to wave on a big hawg, when your just
cruising...just flick the lights..
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(Msg. 98) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:51 pm
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On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:05:44 -0700, "P. Roehling"
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|>"Tweak" wrote
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|>> Shame you can't ride a sticker. Some stats on how many of those people
|>> with HD stickers on their vehicles actually own any sort of motorcycle,
|>> much less a harley, would be interesting. I've been cut off by too many
|>> vehicles with those stickers/tags on them to feel any sort of fellowship
|>> with their occupants.
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|>I dunno. I took an instant liking to this one.
|>
Could be a rider, but since the HA---Harley groups have been labeled
an "outlaw" criminal organization, they might be removing the stickers to
ease the heat...
Most Harleys seem somewhat related to some Biker Gang, so it's not
really different. I seen HA stuff as riding all sorts of stuff from "street
dealing" bicycles, rice rockets "r6" along the Harleys, and red trucks with
"pony-up" plates.....
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(Msg. 99) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:05 pm
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:32:56 -0000, ~kurt
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|>Seth Hammond wrote:
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|>> Heh. I just a few minutes ago saw a V-Rod rider and a cager exchanging
|>> credentials in the middle of a 5 lane street. Looked like the cager was hit
|>> in the rear end by the V-Rod. I don't know the particulars, but I know it
|>> won't be in the evening news. I wonder if it was a "brake test"? Do V-Rods
|>> have loud pipes/high beams?
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|>Better yet, was he using his front brake? I'm still surprised when I hear
|>people say they never use it because they think they will flip the bike.
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|>- Kurt
It's not that good to slam it, since it is an important wheel to
have....rear, then pump the front....we all do that...
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(Msg. 100) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:50 pm
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:27:36 -0700, "Seth Hammond"
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|>I've known two riders who bit the big one. One ran off the trail on his
|>Can-Am and impaled himself on a tree limb cut off a foot from the tree. The
|>other rode his Triumph into a station wagon at 95 mph and killed himself,
|>the mother, and her three kids.
They must have been in a big hurry, you might add them to the
European *Wall of Shame*....were they have stacks of bikes were some riders
did not make the mountain curves...
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(Msg. 101) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:54 pm
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:55:51 GMT, "ian field" wrote:
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|>> I give up. Why?
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|>Because the OP wanted to know if using full beam in daylight reduced the
|>risk of getting creamed by cagers who don't bother looking where they're
|>going.
Regular halogen hi-beams are jack in the daytime, it's not like
riding in the sun. When riding away from the Sun in 2way, hi-beams are never
bright enuff.........
Use your head like I do when it hit's the pavement....> 
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(Msg. 102) Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:31 am
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rkba@ca.rkba.cid wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:32:56 -0000, ~kurt
> wrote:
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> |>Seth Hammond wrote:
> |>>
> |>> Heh. I just a few minutes ago saw a V-Rod rider and a cager exchanging
> |>> credentials in the middle of a 5 lane street. Looked like the cager was
> |>> hit
> |>> in the rear end by the V-Rod. I don't know the particulars, but I know
> |>> it
> |>> won't be in the evening news. I wonder if it was a "brake test"? Do
> |>> V-Rods
> |>> have loud pipes/high beams?
> |>
> |>Better yet, was he using his front brake? I'm still surprised when I hear
> |>people say they never use it because they think they will flip the bike.
> |>
> |>- Kurt
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> It's not that good to slam it, since it is an important wheel to
> have....rear, then pump the front....we all do that...
Do what? Why pump the front brake?
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(Msg. 103) Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:49 am
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:31:04 -0700, Timberwoof
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|>> It's not that good to slam it, since it is an important wheel to
|>> have....rear, then pump the front....we all do that...
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|>Do what? Why pump the front brake?
If your coming to an emergency fast stop, and your 30% rear brake is
pretty tight to almost lock, then your front has to take up that 70%
stopping power but has to keep rolling, unless you have a 3rd wheel
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(Msg. 104) Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:46 am
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rkba@ca.rkba.cid wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:32:56 -0000, ~kurt
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>|>Better yet, was he using his front brake? I'm still surprised when I hear
>|>people say they never use it because they think they will flip the bike.
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>|>- Kurt
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> It's not that good to slam it, since it is an important wheel to
Who said slamming it? You can apply it quickly, but smoothly, without
slamming it.
> have....rear, then pump the front....we all do that...
Rear first, and pump the front? You are not going to be stopping nearly
as quick as you could. You start applying the front brake, and quickly
increase pressure, right until you are about to lock up (for maximum braking),
and then you start to ease off it as the situation allows. There is no
on-off-on-of BS - that is the opposite of smooth. The perfect front
brake action is to ramp it all the way up, hold, and then ramp it down
(most likely more slowly than the pace you ramped it up). Just watch the
pros on TV when they show the on-board cameras, and you will get the point.
Use the rear to supplement the front, as you can. If the front locks up,
you just release it really quick and get back on it - not a big deal.
This thread is so last week....
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(Msg. 105) Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:51 am
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yamaha_majesty@mbk.cid wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:31:04 -0700, Timberwoof
> wrote:
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>>>> It's not that good to slam it, since it is an important wheel to
>>>> have....rear, then pump the front....we all do that...
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>>> Do what? Why pump the front brake?
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> If your coming to an emergency fast stop, and your 30% rear brake is
> pretty tight to almost lock, then your front has to take up that 70%
> stopping power but has to keep rolling, unless you have a 3rd wheel
> somewhere.
The idea is that you take it to the edge of losing traction.
"Pumping" it would only make sense if you were on a low-traction
surface. Locking it increases your stopping distance.
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