Anyone ride with high beams on all day

NO!

I can't stand other Biker's high beams in my eyes, and I won't inflict
that on anyone else either. I may flip the Highs on going thru an
intersection if it looks threatening, but I won't leave them on.
Bg
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smn wrote:
> Friend of mine took a MC safety course and they said use high beams(daytime)
> because drivers still do not see you. That was after I told him a lady
> almost creamed while I was going straight from a stop light and she was
> turning left. It's not fair that everything I do has to do with correcting
> drivers poor habits but it is true.
> What do you do for survival and has anyone taken a safety course that
> can shed some light?
>
> thank you in advance
>
>

I ride all my daytime miles with my headlights on Highbeam.

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Ian Singer wrote:
> smn wrote:
>> Friend of mine took a MC safety course and they said use high
>> beams(daytime) because drivers still do not see you.
>
> The flashing headlights are more effective, but could be illegal.

If you're using a modulator, they're legal everywhere in the US and
Canada.

> Also if you add a pole on the back end, with a big red light, that
> might but better as you could be mistaken for police, but leave out
> the bulb out.
>
> Ian Singer

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"smn" wrote in message

> Friend of mine took a MC safety course and they said use high
> beams(daytime) because drivers still do not see you. That was after I
> told him a lady almost creamed while I was going straight from a stop
> light and she was turning left. It's not fair that everything I do has
> to do with correcting drivers poor habits but it is true.
> What do you do for survival and has anyone taken a safety course that
> can shed some light?
>
> thank you in advance
>

always highbeams for me during the day...
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On Sep 4, 9:25 am, "Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com" wrote:
> On Sep 4, 9:09 am, Bob Nixon wrote:
>
> > Drivers of cages are more apt to notice changes like a low to high
> > beam continuous flashing across dangerous intersections with brainless
> > cages ready to kill us.
>
> OTOH, the oncoming driver make think you are yielding your right of way to
> him.

Not when you simultaneously do a suicide run directed at said cage
without slowing then veering back in your lane at the last second.
Works for me and In 35 years I've never been hit by a left or right
turning cage, just a 20 cecond in red light runner and a stupid deer:)

Bob Nixon.
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smn wrote:
> Friend of mine took a MC safety course and they said use high beams(daytime)
> because drivers still do not see you.

The flashing headlights are more effective, but could be illegal.

Also if you add a pole on the back end, with a big red light, that might
but better as you could be mistaken for police, but leave out the bulb out.

Ian Singer


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"Bob Nixon" wrote in message

> On Sep 4, 8:34 am, "smn" wrote:
>> Friend of mine took a MC safety course and they said use high
>> beams(daytime)
>> because drivers still do not see you. That was after I told him a lady
>> almost creamed while I was going straight from a stop light and she was
>> turning left. It's not fair that everything I do has to do with
>> correcting
>> drivers poor habits but it is true.
>> What do you do for survival and has anyone taken a safety course that
>> can shed some light?
>>
>> thank you in advance
>
> Drivers of cages are more apt to notice changes like a low to high
> beam continuous flashing across dangerous intersections with brainless
> cages ready to kill us.
>
> Bob Nixon.
>

For that reason, I weave a bit across the lane when approaching a cage that
might turn in left in front of me. And I've noticed that some poorly aimed
cycle headlights can be annoying on high beam, even in daylight.

Tom K.
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wrote:
> NO!
>
> I can't stand other Biker's high beams in my eyes, and I won't
> inflict
> that on anyone else either. I may flip the Highs on going thru an
> intersection if it looks threatening, but I won't leave them on.

Careful of that, it could be interpreted as a signal that you're
letting the other vehicle turn.

> Bg

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on 9/4/07 9:20 AM, Tom K. wrote:

> For that reason, I weave a bit across the lane when approaching a cage that
> might turn in left in front of me. And I've noticed that some poorly aimed
> cycle headlights can be annoying on high beam, even in daylight.

Annoyed is better than unaware, I think. Whether I leave my high beams on
during the day depends on the entire situation. If I'm in a city with lots
of traffic, then yes. If I'm in a less populated area, with less risk of me
not seeing that someone is about to turn left in front of me, then no.

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On Sep 4, 8:34 am, "smn" wrote:
> Friend of mine took a MC safety course and they said use high beams(daytime)
> because drivers still do not see you.

For many years motorcycles have had headlight bulbs or lenses that aimed the
low beam down so car drivers wouldn't be annoyed. Some late model sportbikes
have low beams that look like they aren't even on during the daytime. So,
with that information in mind, use your high beams in the daytime and be
aware that you may annoy some cagers who may react aggressively.

>That was after I told him a lady
> almost creamed while I was going straight from a stop light and she was
> turning left.

When some cager turned left in front of me, and I had to make an emergency
stop, I turned around and followed him to the next stoplight and asked him
why he did that. He said he didn't see me. I asked him if he could see his
refrigerator at home and said that my full dressed touring motorcycle was as
big as a refrigerator.

Another cager turned left in front of me and I had to do the emergency stop
so I
followed him to the next stop sign and asked him what his problem was. He
said that he had waited a "long time" to turn left.

They really don't see us, they don't even see other cars or pedestrians or
bicycles and they are thinking about everything but driving and doing
anything you can imagine while they are behind the wheel.

> It's not fair that everything I do has to do with correcting
> drivers poor habits but it is true.

You're never going to "correct" cagers' bad habits. All you can do is survive
their
mistakes and overlook their rudeness and ignorance.

> What do you do for survival and has anyone taken a safety course that
> can shed some light?

I invented the SIPDE strategy independantly, before anybody ever came up with
the acronym for Scan, Integrate, Process, Decide, Execute.

I learned to look at everything without focusing on everything and believing
that every vehicle was an imminent threat.

Since it's legal to share lanes with other vehicles in California, I go
between cars and use them to keep me from being rear ended.

If I am splitting lanes and still moving in slow or stopped traffic, I will
be beeping my horn, or, if I have a loud exhaust system, I will make noise by
blipping the throttle.

That saved me recently when a cager in an SUV tried to make a right turn from
the center lane and I was right beside him.

I also try to go through intersections alongside a car so cagers in the
opposite lane are less likely to turn left in front of me.

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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:01:47 +0000, Paladin wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:34:14 GMT, "smn" wrote:
>
>>Friend of mine took a MC safety course and they said use high beams(daytime)
>>because drivers still do not see you. That was after I told him a lady
>>almost creamed ...
>
> No matter what you do some people will not see you. Therefore you
> cannot assume that anyone can see you. Since you cannot assume anyone
> can see you nothing you *can* do will allow you to assume that the
> other person sees you.
>
> I am invisible. No one can see me. I must avoid them because they
> cannot see me to avoid me. I do not have the right of way over any
> other vehicle until and unless that vehicle has actively yielded to
> me.

And even then you need to double-check to make sure they didn't just
"yield" to you to in order pick up the burger they just dropped between
their feet.

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On Sep 4, 9:09 am, Bob Nixon wrote:
> Drivers of cages are more apt to notice changes like a low to high
> beam continuous flashing across dangerous intersections with brainless
> cages ready to kill us.

OTOH, the oncoming driver make think you are yielding your right of way to
him.
We have millions of Mexican drivers in the southwest. When they drive in
Mexico, light flashing can mean "Me first!" and they are taking the right of
way because they got to the intersection first, or "You go ahead!" so they
are yielding the right of way and inviting the other driver to turn left.

You never know who is in that cage coming the other way and what he thinks
the rules of the road are.

And, in Los Angeles, the cager coming the other way may not even be on his
side of the road, so a recent California law prohibited driving on the wrong
side
of the road to pass stopped traffic to get into a dedicated left turn lane.

Not that a silly law is going to stop the practice. The law against starting
left turns on yellow lights hasn't stopped left turners from running a red
light.

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On Sep 4, 11:54 am, Andrew wrote:
> smn wrote:
> > Friend of mine took a MC safety course and they said use high beams(daytime)
> > because drivers still do not see you. That was after I told him a lady
> > almost creamed while I was going straight from a stop light and she was
> > turning left. It's not fair that everything I do has to do with correcting
> > drivers poor habits but it is true.
> > What do you do for survival and has anyone taken a safety course that
> > can shed some light?
>
> > thank you in advance
>
> I ride all my daytime miles with my headlights on Highbeam.
>
> --
> Andrew
> Some Triples
> 05 Infant.

I ride during full daylight with Highbeams on as well, and if someone
still doesn't seem to notice, I flash the highbeams and hong the 139
db Air Horn I installed to say "Wake the Fook UP!"

Lane positioning is just as important, though, and that is my
responsibility.
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