Best mpg in production bike that can cruise at 70mph or mo..

TMack wrote:

> As header. Google isn't terribly helpful. What is obvious is that many
> bikes are tuned for performance at the expense of economy and that mpg
> is often woeful for such comparatively lighweight vehicles So...what
> is the best bike for a trade-off between performance and fuel economy?

The book for a 1969 MZ ES250/2 (Snorky!) says it can cruise at 70 and
achieve 43mpg (about right). It says in the book it can achieve 55mpg at
60mph. All this and lay enough smoke to hide the Bismarck.

1979 Guzzi can do 60mpg but normally does 35-40mpg.

How they compare with modern bikes I don't know - ever helpful me.

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:42:27 -0000, "TMack"
<tonyREMOVEmackin_at_bigfoot.com> wrote:

>As header. Google isn't terribly helpful. What is obvious is that many
>bikes are tuned for performance at the expense of economy and that mpg is
>often woeful for such comparatively lighweight vehicles So...what is the
>best bike for a trade-off between performance and fuel economy?

A quick google for "motorcycle fuel economy" gives a useful first hit,
but that appears to be based on the slush Merkins call petrol, or
gasoline.
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TMack wrote:
> As header.

> So...what is the best bike for a trade-off between performance and
> fuel economy?

That's two different questions. Do you want to know which 70mph+ bike has
the best fuel economy, or which has the best trade-off between performance
and fuel economy? No idea how you'd quantify the second one, but the first
would be probably be a 125 or 250 of some description.

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On 20 Jan, 10:52, "Monkey"
wrote:
> TMack wrote:
> > As header.
> > So...what is the best bike for a trade-off between performance and
> > fuel economy?
>
> That's two different questions. Do you want to know which 70mph+ bike has
> the best fuel economy, or which has the best trade-off between performance
> and fuel economy? No idea how you'd quantify the second one, but the first
> would be probably be a 125 or 250 of some description.
>
I'd like a bike to be able to cruise at 80 mph all day, comfortably,
return over 50 mpg and retain the ability to beat almost all cars away
from traffic lights.

My GS500 used to return 58 mpg and would do 80 mph (only just into a
headwind) but it didn't seem to like doing that speed for hours at a
time. I think it had issues.

The ZR7 I have now seems to be comfortable at any speed up to a ton
but the mpg drops off rapidly over 75 (about 50 mpg up to that).
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TMack wrote:
> As header. Google isn't terribly helpful. What is obvious is that
> many bikes are tuned for performance at the expense of economy and
> that mpg is often woeful for such comparatively lighweight vehicles
> So...what is the best bike for a trade-off between performance and
> fuel economy?

Old Style Fazer 1000. Despite a six foot tall bloated utter-gutbucket
riding it, mine delivers 43-45 mpg on a mixed town/fast A-road commute.
Having said that, when I've done 100+ for extended periods of that
commute it has dropped to mid 30's mpg.

The funny thing is that sometimes you can't beat CV Carbs for fuel
economy on bikes. Every fuel injected bike I've ever ridden has required
the restraint of a nun [1] to achieve reasonable fuel consumption [2].

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[1] ..and in some cases a Power Commander as well.

[2] Not that I care about the fuel consumption per se. I just hate
having to fill up so often on a long journey.
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:04:58 -0800 (PST), Guy Fawkes
wrote:

>On 20 Jan, 10:42, "TMack" <tonyREMOVEmackin_at_bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> As header. Google isn't terribly helpful. What is obvious is that many
>> bikes are tuned for performance at the expense of economy and that mpg is
>> often woeful for such comparatively lighweight vehicles So...what is the
>> best bike for a trade-off between performance and fuel economy?
>>
>> --
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>> '04 XL1200C, '95 LS650 (in bits - being rebuilt), CB450 Shitehawk (winter
>> hack) OMF#24
>
>Horsepower is essentially a measure of fuel used per second, barring
>the relatively minor differences in efficiencies between (japanese)
>engines.
>
>You'll find a 1000cc twin develops a lot less BHP than a 1000cc four,
>so a large part of your answer is there, the rest of your answer lies
>is correct tyre pressures and gearing.
>
>So you want a single or twin, lazily tuned, tall gearing, and you're
>good to go.

Ténéré?
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In communiqué , TMack
cast forth these pearls of
wisdom
>As header. Google isn't terribly helpful. What is obvious is that many
>bikes are tuned for performance at the expense of economy and that mpg is
>often woeful for such comparatively lighweight vehicles So...what is the
>best bike for a trade-off between performance and fuel economy?
>

Obviously there is no call for the motorcycle equivalent for this:
http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search/fuelConSearch.asp

<searches>

Polo blue motion? Sounds like an initiation ceremony performed before
taking part in your first chukka.

A Morini 350 Strada would fit the bill, if you don't factor in
reliability.
Hard to think of a modern equivalent.
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TMack wrote:
> As header. Google isn't terribly helpful. What is obvious is that
> many bikes are tuned for performance at the expense of economy and
> that mpg is often woeful for such comparatively lighweight vehicles
> So...what is the best bike for a trade-off between performance and
> fuel economy?

It must be me, but the best MPG is easily the Ducati, the worst was the
R1200GS, the Ducati never does below 45mpg & the BMW never did more than
30mpg.

I have no idea what the Daytona does, but Loz did a decent distance on a
tank.


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NIGE#1
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Nige wrote:
> TMack wrote:
>> As header. Google isn't terribly helpful. What is obvious is that
>> many bikes are tuned for performance at the expense of economy and
>> that mpg is often woeful for such comparatively lighweight vehicles
>> So...what is the best bike for a trade-off between performance and
>> fuel economy?
>
> It must be me, but the best MPG is easily the Ducati, the worst was
> the R1200GS, the Ducati never does below 45mpg & the BMW never did
> more than 30mpg.
>
> I have no idea what the Daytona does, but Loz did a decent distance
> on a tank.

I should have added, bikes that I have owned BTW!

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Ducati 916
BMW K1100LT
MT-03
Focus ST3
Range Rover 4.6 HSE
Daytona SE

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TMack <tonyREMOVEmackin_at_bigfoot.com> wrote:

> As header. Google isn't terribly helpful. What is obvious is that many
> bikes are tuned for performance at the expense of economy and that mpg is
> often woeful for such comparatively lighweight vehicles So...what is the
> best bike for a trade-off between performance and fuel economy?

Well, bikes I have owned:

H100S - Cruising speed 55mph, consumption around 90MPG (best 107MPG)
CB400N - " " 70mph, " " 45MPG
CB750KZ - " " 90mph, " " 42MPG
XJ600 Diversion " " 80mph, " " 48MPG
K100 " " 90MPH, " " 45MPG
FJ1200 " " 100MPH, " " 45MPG

Of those I'd say the FJ1200 had the best performance to consumption
ratio, and would cruise at nearer to the ton. I commuted on all these
bikes at these consumption figures, and didn't often ride them for
economy.

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:21:38 -0800 (PST), the man with no idea
wrote:

>On 20 Jan, 10:52, "Monkey"
>wrote:
>> TMack wrote:
>> > As header.
>> > So...what is the best bike for a trade-off between performance and
>> > fuel economy?
>>
>> That's two different questions. Do you want to know which 70mph+ bike has
>> the best fuel economy, or which has the best trade-off between performance
>> and fuel economy? No idea how you'd quantify the second one, but the first
>> would be probably be a 125 or 250 of some description.
>>
>I'd like a bike to be able to cruise at 80 mph all day, comfortably,
>return over 50 mpg and retain the ability to beat almost all cars away
>from traffic lights.

A ZZR1100 can do this.

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TMack <tonyREMOVEmackin_at_bigfoot.com> wrote:

> As header. Google isn't terribly helpful. What is obvious is that many
> bikes are tuned for performance at the expense of economy and that mpg is
> often woeful for such comparatively lighweight vehicles So...what is the
> best bike for a trade-off between performance and fuel economy?

It entirely depends on what speed you intend to cruise at. Quite a few
large Kawasakis will return amazing mpg figures if held in top at a
steady 70, but you'd die of boredom.

I know for a fact my Duke will do 50mpg if treated as above, while in
day-to-day use it does about 42. Same goes for the K.

OTOH, the CD250 does 70mpg but rarely exceeds 70mph and tops out at only
80+ mph.

In my experience, all bikes, except two strokes and a few very others,
are economical if ridden legally. But very few are.


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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:42:27 -0000, "TMack"
<tonyREMOVEmackin_at_bigfoot.com> wrote:

>As header. Google isn't terribly helpful. What is obvious is that many
>bikes are tuned for performance at the expense of economy and that mpg is
>often woeful for such comparatively lighweight vehicles So...what is the
>best bike for a trade-off between performance and fuel economy?

Big performance engines are not necessarily bad on fuel.

I recall taking my ZZR1100, two up with luggage, to Italy, and
cruising at around 80~85 on the autoroute it returned around 50mpg.
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