How many miles in an XTZ 750?

On 5 Feb, 13:09, Ace <see....TakeThisOut@ifrance.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:41:49 +0200, in
> <fo9ll3$9p...@volcano1.grnet.gr>, "Geo" <gRkEaMpOnVaEsC....TakeThisOut@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >"TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail....TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
> >> On 5 Feb, 09:36, "d.mcm...@gmail.com" <d.mcm....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Just wondering how many miles are in one of these? 70?80,000???
>
> >> Depends if it's an early one. They did have some well-documented
> >> bottom end gremlins. Later ones were better. They're getting on a bit
> >> now, so unless the one you're looking at is particularly nice and well-
> >> cared for, I'd avoid.
>
> >I wonder how easy this engine swap is (TDM 900)
> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K9k0qr61-k8
>
> Probably not too difficult, as the basic design is unchanged from
> XTZ750, through TDM (and later TRX ) 850 to the current 900.
>

There is one here with 57,000 (it says).

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170191154533
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On 5 Feb, 12:59, Mark Olson <ols....RemoveThis@tiny.invalid> wrote:
> Geo wrote:
> > "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail....RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
>
> >>On 5 Feb, 09:36, "d.mcm...@gmail.com" <d.mcm....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>Just wondering how many miles are in one of these? 70?80,000???
>
> >>Depends if it's an early one. They did have some well-documented
> >>bottom end gremlins. Later ones were better. They're getting on a bit
> >>now, so unless the one you're looking at is particularly nice and well-
> >>cared for, I'd avoid.
>
> > I wonder how easy this engine swap is (TDM 900)
> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K9k0qr61-k8
>
> > The website is in Czech and the web translator I found didn't help much.
>
> An Italian chap of my acquaintance is in the process of doing exactly
> such a swap ATM, if you're interested I can ask him how it's going.
> Apparently one of the worst bits is getting the authorities to recognize
> the swap, as the eyties are not keen on undocumented modifications

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Really? How bizarre. I'd have thought that was a French thing, where
everything has to be type approved and woe betide you if you derstrict
that strangled-to-100bhp superbike, mon vieux.

I'd have expected the Italians to be... well, a bit more laid-back.
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TOG@Toil wrote:
> On 5 Feb, 12:59, Mark Olson <ols....DeleteThis@tiny.invalid> wrote:

>>An Italian chap of my acquaintance is in the process of doing exactly
>>such a swap ATM, if you're interested I can ask him how it's going.
>>Apparently one of the worst bits is getting the authorities to recognize
>>the swap, as the eyties are not keen on undocumented modifications

> Really? How bizarre. I'd have thought that was a French thing, where
> everything has to be type approved and woe betide you if you derstrict
> that strangled-to-100bhp superbike, mon vieux.
>
> I'd have expected the Italians to be... well, a bit more laid-back.

After experiencing their practical approach to traffic law (i.e., do
what you will so long as no-one gets hurt, apparently) my assumption
would be there's an official rule, and then there's what actually
happens, and there's normally only a faint correspondence betweeen
the two.

Italy is in my opinion one of the most petrol-head populated countries
in Europe- this lovely little Guzzi had pride of place in a nice
restaurant in Monza:

http://www.visi.com/~olsonm/guzzi.jpg

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TOG@Toil wrote:

> On 5 Feb, 12:59, Mark Olson <ols....RemoveThis@tiny.invalid> wrote:
> > Geo wrote:
> > > "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail....RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
> >
> > >>On 5 Feb, 09:36, "d.mcm...@gmail.com" <d.mcm....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Just wondering how many miles are in one of these?
> > > > > 70?80,000???
> >
> > > > Depends if it's an early one. They did have some well-documented
> > > > bottom end gremlins. Later ones were better. They're getting on
> > > > a bit now, so unless the one you're looking at is particularly
> > > > nice and well- cared for, I'd avoid.
> >
> > > I wonder how easy this engine swap is (TDM 900)
> > > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K9k0qr61-k8
> >
> > > The website is in Czech and the web translator I found didn't
> > > help much.
> >
> > An Italian chap of my acquaintance is in the process of doing
> > exactly such a swap ATM, if you're interested I can ask him how
> > it's going. Apparently one of the worst bits is getting the
> > authorities to recognize the swap, as the eyties are not keen on
> > undocumented modifications
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Really? How bizarre. I'd have thought that was a French thing, where
> everything has to be type approved and woe betide you if you derstrict
> that strangled-to-100bhp superbike, mon vieux.
>
> I'd have expected the Italians to be... well, a bit more laid-back.

Probably costs a couple of lire extra.

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In the referenced article, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmailbox.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> writes:

>Really? How bizarre. I'd have thought that was a French thing, where
>everything has to be type approved and woe betide you if you derstrict
>that strangled-to-100bhp superbike, mon vieux.
>
>I'd have expected the Italians to be... well, a bit more laid-back.

I remember reading an article in one of Italian bike magazines
explaining what a supermoto was and why Italy would have to wait to
get them---apparently you're not allowed to roll your own supermoto.
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"TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmailbox.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
> On 5 Feb, 09:36, "d.mcm...@gmail.com" <d.mcm....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just wondering how many miles are in one of these? 70?80,000???
>
> Depends if it's an early one. They did have some well-documented
> bottom end gremlins. Later ones were better. They're getting on a bit
> now, so unless the one you're looking at is particularly nice and well-
> cared for, I'd avoid.

I wonder how easy this engine swap is (TDM 900)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K9k0qr61-k8

The website is in Czech and the web translator I found didn't help much.

Geo
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Geo wrote:
> "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmailbox.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
>
>>On 5 Feb, 09:36, "d.mcm...@gmail.com" <d.mcm....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Just wondering how many miles are in one of these? 70?80,000???
>>
>>Depends if it's an early one. They did have some well-documented
>>bottom end gremlins. Later ones were better. They're getting on a bit
>>now, so unless the one you're looking at is particularly nice and well-
>>cared for, I'd avoid.
>
>
> I wonder how easy this engine swap is (TDM 900)
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K9k0qr61-k8
>
> The website is in Czech and the web translator I found didn't help much.

An Italian chap of my acquaintance is in the process of doing exactly
such a swap ATM, if you're interested I can ask him how it's going.
Apparently one of the worst bits is getting the authorities to recognize
the swap, as the eyties are not keen on undocumented modifications.

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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:41:49 +0200, in
<fo9ll3$9ph$1@volcano1.grnet.gr>, "Geo" <gRkEaMpOnVaEsCAPS DeleteThis @gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmailbox DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote
>> On 5 Feb, 09:36, "d.mcm...@gmail.com" <d.mcm... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Just wondering how many miles are in one of these? 70?80,000???
>>
>> Depends if it's an early one. They did have some well-documented
>> bottom end gremlins. Later ones were better. They're getting on a bit
>> now, so unless the one you're looking at is particularly nice and well-
>> cared for, I'd avoid.
>
>I wonder how easy this engine swap is (TDM 900)
>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K9k0qr61-k8

Probably not too difficult, as the basic design is unchanged from
XTZ750, through TDM (and later TRX ) 850 to the current 900.

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Mark Olson wrote:

> Geo wrote:
> >"TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmailbox DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote
> >
> >>On 5 Feb, 09:36, "d.mcm...@gmail.com" <d.mcm... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just wondering how many miles are in one of these? 70?80,000???
> > >
> > > Depends if it's an early one. They did have some well-documented
> > > bottom end gremlins. Later ones were better. They're getting on a
> > > bit now, so unless the one you're looking at is particularly nice
> > > and well- cared for, I'd avoid.
> >
> >
> > I wonder how easy this engine swap is (TDM 900)
> > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K9k0qr61-k8
> >
> > The website is in Czech and the web translator I found didn't help
> > much.
>
> An Italian chap of my acquaintance is in the process of doing exactly
> such a swap ATM, if you're interested I can ask him how it's going.
> Apparently one of the worst bits is getting the authorities to
> recognize the swap, as the eyties are not keen on undocumented
> modifications.

Hmm. And here's me thinking that these things are easier to get on the
road in the US.

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"Mark Olson" <olsonm DeleteThis @tiny.invalid> wrote in message
> Geo wrote:

>>
>> I wonder how easy this engine swap is (TDM 900)
>> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K9k0qr61-k8
>>
>> The website is in Czech and the web translator I found didn't help much.
>
> An Italian chap of my acquaintance is in the process of doing exactly
> such a swap ATM, if you're interested I can ask him how it's going.
> Apparently one of the worst bits is getting the authorities to recognize
> the swap, as the eyties are not keen on undocumented modifications.

I'm being curious, rather than interested if you see what I mean, but I
definitely wouldn't mind knowing how it went/goes. I think it wouldn't be a
bad idea for him to document the whole procedure and post it somewhere for
others to access actually.

As for the authorities, there's usually some way to bypass stupid
bureaucratic restrictions, but it's not always worth the effort.

Geo
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Mark Olson <olsonm DeleteThis @tiny.invalid> wrote:

> Italy is in my opinion one of the most petrol-head populated countries
> in Europe

True, true.

>- this lovely little Guzzi had pride of place in a nice
> restaurant in Monza:
>
> http://www.visi.com/~olsonm/guzzi.jpg

Mark, seek therapy. It's a nasty rusty little moped.

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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Mark Olson <olsonm RemoveThis @tiny.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>Italy is in my opinion one of the most petrol-head populated countries
>>in Europe
>
>
> True, true.
>
>
>>- this lovely little Guzzi had pride of place in a nice
>>restaurant in Monza:
>>
>>http://www.visi.com/~olsonm/guzzi.jpg
>
>
> Mark, seek therapy. It's a nasty rusty little moped.

I *like* mopeds, I have a Vespa Ciao in my garage at the moment.

<thinks>

Why am I biting on bait such as this, coming from you, of all people?

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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Mark Olson <olsonm.RemoveThis@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Italy is in my opinion one of the most petrol-head populated
>> countries in Europe
>
> True, true.
>
>> - this lovely little Guzzi had pride of place in a nice
>> restaurant in Monza:
>>
>> http://www.visi.com/~olsonm/guzzi.jpg
>
> Mark, seek therapy. It's a nasty rusty little moped.

Bollocks it is, it's a light motorcycle.
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