Boots that aren't hot in the summer

"Tweak" <news44 RemoveThis @keslers.removethistosend.net> wrote in message
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>> >> > says...
>> >> >> on 9/21/07 7:05 AM, Tweak wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I imagine they will do fine.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The seam issues are primarily cosmetic, the sole wear is not
>> >> >> > relevant
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > crash protection and the velcro is for a flap above a zipper. I
>> >> >> > also
>> >> >> > forgot to mention the reflectors on the heels came apart within a
>> >> >> > month.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I hope so. When I read "the seams come apart" I thought you meant
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> structural seams that keep the boot in one piece.
>> >> >>
>> >> > Toe pad and heel cap.
>> >> >>
>> >> > I can say my SMXs held up well this weekend when I went down and got
>> >> > drug by the right boot (and the foot it was covering) off into the
>> >> > gravel when it got stuck under the bike when it low sided. They
>> >> > looked
>> >> > like poo already, now the right one is "fuzzy" as well.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Tweak
>> >>
>> >> Sorry to hear you crashed. Was it the gravel that took you down? Was
>> >> it
>> >> in
>> >> town or in the mountains?
>> >
>> > I was on the track, and hubris brought me down. It was raining, and I
>> > was one of only 2 or 3 bikes on the grid running rains (I guessed
>> > right). Got visions of Anthony West in my head and went down on the
>> > first lap trying to be a hero.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tweak
>>
>> Man, that hubris is slicker than owl snot. Since you live in Atlanta
>> I
>> thought it might have been on Richard B. Russell (GA348) or the parts of
>> 60
>> that have gravel.
>
> Very seldom do I go up there anymore. Too many squids, too many cops
> and you can't carry any speed on the street anyway (or at least I
> won't).
> --
> Tweak

That's how I feel about Deal's Gap, but I haven't seen much of either the
few times I made it to the GA mnts this year. As for the speed, I go about
the same in the curves as I do on the straights. IOW, riding the pace.
It's easier on the bike and easier on me and it's enough to keep me
entertained. Yeah, I miss out on a lot that I could do on the track, but
then I don't have to worry about boy racer wannabes trying to prove
something and tucking the front while passing me on the inside. There are
more squids per mile on track days than the street. At least I can just
wave them past on the street and not see them again.
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> There are more squids per mile on track days than the street.

Can't say I agree with this at all, but I've only been doing trackdays since
89.
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On Sep 26, 8:53 pm, "TroytheTroll" <f4_....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > There are more squids per mile on track days than the street.
>
> Can't say I agree with this at all, but I've only been doing trackdays since
> 89.

It's all in how you define "squid." There are no shortage of people
willing to push it to the limit at the risk of life, limb, and
property at track days. You ever been to one where someone didn't
wreck? I've only been on a spirited backroad ride once where someone
did. And he wrecked for the very same reason they do on the track.
He was trying to impress people that he was better than he really
was. He doesn't do that anymore and he hasn't wrecked since either.
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On Sep 26, 11:13 pm, "TroytheTroll" <f4_....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Sep 26, 8:53 pm, "TroytheTroll" <f4_....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > There are more squids per mile on track days than the street.
>
> >> Can't say I agree with this at all, but I've only been doing trackdays
> >> since
> >> 89.
>
> > It's all in how you define "squid."
>
> Say...people blitzing their favorite backroads at well over the ton?

I can't believe that out in the baron west you find riding over the
"ton" a big deal. Crimeny, you ain't even got corn children out thar.
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> On Sep 26, 8:53 pm, "TroytheTroll" <f4_....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > There are more squids per mile on track days than the street.
>>
>> Can't say I agree with this at all, but I've only been doing trackdays
>> since
>> 89.
>
> It's all in how you define "squid."

Say...people blitzing their favorite backroads at well over the ton?


>There are no shortage of people
> willing to push it to the limit at the risk of life, limb, and
> property at track days.

Fortunately, people like that get out of the sport early. Darwin wins again!


>You ever been to one where someone didn't
> wreck?

Yes. You haven't? Admittedly, some are worse than others, but sure, I've
been to quite a few where no one fell down.


>I've only been on a spirited backroad ride once where someone
> did.

I've seen it happen bunches of times. And wound up in court because of it.
Street squids are so easy to find it isn't even a bad joke.


>And he wrecked for the very same reason they do on the track.

Maybe.


> He was trying to impress people that he was better than he really
> was. He doesn't do that anymore and he hasn't wrecked since either.

Good...he learned and slowed down. Same thing happens to track riders,
assuming their survive the first big get off.
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>> > Tweak
>>
>> Yeah, I miss out on a lot that I could do on the track, but
>> then I don't have to worry about boy racer wannabes trying to prove
>> something and tucking the front while passing me on the inside. There
>> are
>> more squids per mile on track days than the street. At least I can just
>> wave them past on the street and not see them again.
>
> Uhhh, no boy racer wannabes out there with me, just racers. It was a
> race. I would disagree with your assessment of the majority of people
> doing track days as well, but as I seldom do track days I don't care
> enough about it to argue. NESBA has quite strict rules regarding
> passing and such in their beginner and intermediate groups, check them
> out if they are in your area.
>
> --
> Tweak

I wasn't assessing the majority. How did you get that? I'm talking about
one or two squids on a 1 or 2 mile track means more than I see on the
street. I was only talking about track days, not racing.
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>> There are more squids per mile on track days than the street.
>
> Can't say I agree with this at all, but I've only been doing trackdays
> since 89.
>

So you've never seen any squids do track days? That's hard to believe. As
I replied to Tweak, one or two on a mile and a half loop means there are
more squids per mile on the track than the street.

Usually I'll see a bike on the street with tires shredded at the edges. So
they're either running race take-offs or they do track days. So I'll ask if
they do track days. Then the bravado starts... What they don't realize is
that riding isn't a competition to me. I've been riding motorcycles for
almost 30 years. Odds are I've met someone who's a better or faster rider
than them along the way so nothing they say or do is going to impress me.

I walk into an auto parts store and one of the employee's bike was outside.
I said nice bike, just to be polite. He looks at my bike and says *What
kind of exhaust is THAT!?* Um, stock. Then he starts telling me about how
he does track days at Jennings with the attitude like he's a hot shot. I
think he mistook my reserved demeanor for awe.

Then I read some tracks' forums and the problems they have with riders and
you know, I just like to CHOOSE who I ride with. The majority of those
riders are probably ok, but you know what they say about a few bad apples.
Dragging my bike 150 to 200 miles and paying $200 to share a mile and a half
loop with 20 other riders on someone else's schedule ain't my cup of tea.
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>> >
>> >> > Tweak
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, I miss out on a lot that I could do on the track, but
>> >> then I don't have to worry about boy racer wannabes trying to prove
>> >> something and tucking the front while passing me on the inside. There
>> >> are
>> >> more squids per mile on track days than the street. At least I can
>> >> just
>> >> wave them past on the street and not see them again.
>> >
>> > Uhhh, no boy racer wannabes out there with me, just racers. It was a
>> > race. I would disagree with your assessment of the majority of people
>> > doing track days as well, but as I seldom do track days I don't care
>> > enough about it to argue. NESBA has quite strict rules regarding
>> > passing and such in their beginner and intermediate groups, check them
>> > out if they are in your area.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tweak
>>
>> I wasn't assessing the majority. How did you get that? I'm talking
>> about
>> one or two squids on a 1 or 2 mile track means more than I see on the
>> street. I was only talking about track days, not racing.
>>
>>
> "I don't care enough about it to argue."
>
> --
> Tweak

No need to be a smart ass. You twist my words and I'll call you on it.
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> Use
> whatever rationale you need to stay off the track and/or not do track
> days as, once again, I don't care. If you are looking for fight look
> elsewhere.
> Tweak

I'm game!!!! What'll it be!! WD-40 as chain lube? Synthetic engine oil
versus cage oil? Trackday weeny statistics versus idiot and incompetent
street riders?! Pick a side....lets do it!
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