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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:34 pm
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"Keith Schiffner" <schistan.TakeThisOut@bresnan.net> wrote in message
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> Yes I take land navigation seriously. It is the difference between lost
> and going places. I just have a proclivity for re-revising a route because
> I feel like it.
>
> So like I said at the top. I have and I don't now and most likely will
> never have another. It was a nice tool and crutch. I don't need it anymore
> and a lot less than I used to.
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I keep trying to get lost. But I like reading maps so I can pretty much
find my way anywhere in the U.S.
I'd rather have heated grips.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:38 pm
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Keith Schiffner wrote:
> "James Egan" <jegan472.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:RaqdnfNhCpcaABzbnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:46:48 -0600, Keith Schiffner wrote:
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>>>
>>> "James Egan" <jegan472.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:G6Kdnf77f_SxDhzbnZ2dnUVZ_oLinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:20:09 +0000, Stephen! wrote:
>>>>> Here's a reasonably priced one from Amazon.com:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yodqjn
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> RCOS #7
>>>>> IBA# 11465
>>>>> http://imagesdesavions.com
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>>> BTDT with and without GPS. Neither way is hard and frankly I don't
>>> understand the fascination and fetish for a GPS.
>>
>>
>> You don't understand the fascination with GPS? It's simple -- You
>> can enter a destination, and the GPS will guide you there to within
>> feet, whether it's across town or across the country.
>
> I know that. What I don't get is people who can't do it without
> technology. I can do it with or without a GPS. It's not that hard
> even when in places I've never been. What is everybody else's
> problem? Having an extra useful skill is a GOOD THING. Why do people
> want to dumb down? I've lost all sat reception and still got exactly
> where I was going. Got where I wanted to be didn't like the sight and
> relocated 100m. Someone else showed up AFTER I got there commented on
> the 100m offset from the original site and I pointed him up slope to
> where the original site was and said "too much side slope like I
> suspected during the map recon". All he said was "Wow you did that
> without a GPS?" Yes I did and without a compass also...I mean it was
> only 20k cross country. The area was east of Goldstone. 8^) not easy
> country.
Do you actually OWN a GPS?
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:46 pm
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"BryanUT" <nestle12 DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Keith Schiffner" <schistan DeleteThis @bresnan.net> wrote in message
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>> Yes I take land navigation seriously. It is the difference between lost and
>> going places. I just have a proclivity for re-revising a route because I feel
>> like it.
>>
>> So like I said at the top. I have and I don't now and most likely will never
>> have another. It was a nice tool and crutch. I don't need it anymore and a
>> lot less than I used to.
>> --
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> I keep trying to get lost. But I like reading maps so I can pretty much find
> my way anywhere in the U.S.
I never get lost everyone tells me where to go. When that isn't working I write
myself directions...the hard part is reading my writing at 80mph and keeping an
eye on the road.
> I'd rather have heated grips.
What are those? I use bar end covers made for ATV's. I figure that way one more
punk has cold hands.
>
> Plus I'm a Luddite.
You're use of a computer would belie that comment. I'd rather be called
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:17 pm
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:17 pm
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:40 pm
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In article <1382ugh77iplseb.DeleteThis@corp.supernews.com>, Mark Olson
<olsonm.DeleteThis@tiny.invalid> wrote:
> James Egan wrote:
> > Can someone tell me what is the least expensive motorcycle GPS
> > available? I'm looking for something small with long battery
> > life. I saw a Garmin StreetPilot I3 Auto GPS for $200, but
> > it didn't say it was for a motorcycle.
>
> I think $300 for a factory-refurbished Garmin 2610 was fairly
> reasonable. It doesn't use batteries, though- it only works
> from an external power source. You can either use the included
> cigarette lighter style cord or purchase a permanent wiring kit
> at an additional cost. Feature-wise it's great, the only
> complaint I have is the touch screen buttons aren't meant to
> be used with gloves, unlike the dedicated motorcycle-specific
> Zumo models which are more expensive but have more glitzy fun
> features.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:55 pm
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"Stephen!" <NO RemoveThis @spam.com> wrote in message
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> "Keith Schiffner" <schistan RemoveThis @bresnan.net> wrote in
> news:H7KdnfTSEupzVBzbnZ2dnUVZ_qmpnZ2d@bresnan.com:
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>> For 10 years yes. I signed for it so I owned it. Nice little Rockwell
>> number, runs off of a battery or vehicle power. Very sweet set up, has
>> all relevant map surveys for the world including Antarctica.
>
>
>
> I bet those map surveys don't have the address and phone number of all
> the eatin' places and hotels in the next town down the road... My 376c
> does. Sure is nice to be able to call ahead for reservations at the end
> of a long day of travel.
>
Some of us memorize important numbers and locations. 8^) I go someplace twice
and I rarely have trouble finding it again. My storage capacity is suspected as
limitles, though sometimes accessing date is difficult and there is a certain
bit of data corruption due to poor input.
> I bet those map surveys don't come with an XM receiver. My 376c does.
> Sure is nice to be able to listen to any kind of music (or talk) I want
> regardless of where I go.
Who needs that? I've music remembered from 14th century Welsh harp to Mott the
Hoople.
> Yah, I can read a map and navigate using same. When I was a youngster
> I'd start packing my stuff for a hike by putting the map at the bottom of
> the pack. Then I'd navigate myself away from the house using "minute
> hand navigation". Eventually, a few days later, I'd pull out the map,
> figure out where I was, and go shortest/easiest distance home...
I have a habit of never having the map where I can't get to it easily. <shrugs>
I like looking to make sure I retrieved the data correctly. 8^) Only been wrong
once or twice. Mostly on roads I travel holistically...the route I plan is not
the route I'm supposed to take to get where I need to go not where I wanted to
go. Odd thing is I find decent places to eat or beautiful scenery more often
than not. But it doesn't matter either way. The road is what matter not where I
end up.
Three rules of holistic travel plans:
Sometimes the route you plan is most definitely NOT the route you should be
taking.
It becomes obvious in ways that are serendipitous, subtle and unobtrusive
that ones planed route is both uninteresting and dull.
Frankly sometimes you should follow your sense of curiosity and not any
damn fool plan.
S.K. Schiffner C.E. 2006
With much thanks to those great holistic sagacious philosophers messieurs D.
Adams and O. B. Ken obi
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"It's the greatest thing on earth.
You simply devour a piece of road like a cannibalistic
dachshund, eating a string of Coney Island 'dogs.' It's
grand!"
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:32 pm
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Keith Schiffner wrote:
> SNIP
>
>>> I know that. What I don't get is people who can't do it without
>>> technology. I can do it with or without a GPS. It's not that hard
>>> even when in places I've never been. What is everybody else's
>>> problem? Having an extra useful skill is a GOOD THING. Why do people
>>> want to dumb down? I've lost all sat reception and still got exactly
>>> where I was going. Got where I wanted to be didn't like the sight
>>> and relocated 100m. Someone else showed up AFTER I got there
>>> commented on the 100m offset from the original site and I pointed
>>> him up slope to where the original site was and said "too much side
>>> slope like I suspected during the map recon". All he said was "Wow
>>> you did that without a GPS?" Yes I did and without a compass
>>> also...I mean it was only 20k cross country. The area was east of
>>> Goldstone. 8^) not easy country.
>>
>> Do you actually OWN a GPS?
>
> For 10 years yes. I signed for it so I owned it. Nice little Rockwell
> number, runs off of a battery or vehicle power. Very sweet set up,
> has all relevant map surveys for the world including Antarctica.
>
> This was MY GPS. More properly called the PLGR. Started using it in
> 93-94 time frame. Sweet little system virtually unbreakable
> physically and electronically. I've never even heard of one failing,
> with the exception of one nimrod that dropped a track block on it and
> then the case held up and the protective screen cracked. That tweaked
> the display...if we'd have had the system they have now it could have
> displayed on a vehicle mounted flat screen monitor. 8^) We pay allot
> and get our monies worth.
>
> But the big lesson I learned through years of use in every
> environment except artic was that there is NO SUBSTITUTE for knowing
> how to use a map a compass and a protractor. Knowing how to plot a
> route either on road or off and writing down when to turn, what
> direction, how far between turns, whether there are route obstacles
> to worry about.
> Yes I take land navigation seriously. It is the difference between
> lost and going places. I just have a proclivity for re-revising a
> route because I feel like it.
>
> So like I said at the top. I have and I don't now and most likely
> will never have another. It was a nice tool and crutch. I don't need
> it anymore and a lot less than I used to.
If that antique is what you're used to no wonder you don't like GPS.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:23 am
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Keith Schiffner wrote:
> "Stephen!" <NO.TakeThisOut@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns995BD48084368smvsmv@66.150.105.47...
>> "Keith Schiffner" <schistan.TakeThisOut@bresnan.net> wrote in
>> news:H7KdnfTSEupzVBzbnZ2dnUVZ_qmpnZ2d@bresnan.com:
>>
>>> For 10 years yes. I signed for it so I owned it. Nice little
>>> Rockwell number, runs off of a battery or vehicle power. Very sweet
>>> set up, has all relevant map surveys for the world including
>>> Antarctica.
>>
>>
>>
>> I bet those map surveys don't have the address and phone number of
>> all the eatin' places and hotels in the next town down the road...
>> My 376c does. Sure is nice to be able to call ahead for
>> reservations at the end of a long day of travel.
>>
>
> Some of us memorize important numbers and locations. 8^) I go
> someplace twice and I rarely have trouble finding it again. My
> storage capacity is suspected as limitles, though sometimes accessing
> date is difficult and there is a certain bit of data corruption due
> to poor input.
>
>> I bet those map surveys don't come with an XM receiver. My 376c
>> does. Sure is nice to be able to listen to any kind of music (or
>> talk) I want regardless of where I go.
>
> Who needs that? I've music remembered from 14th century Welsh harp to
> Mott the Hoople.
>
>> Yah, I can read a map and navigate using same. When I was a
>> youngster I'd start packing my stuff for a hike by putting the map
>> at the bottom of the pack. Then I'd navigate myself away from the
>> house using "minute hand navigation". Eventually, a few days later,
>> I'd pull out the map, figure out where I was, and go
>> shortest/easiest distance home...
>
> I have a habit of never having the map where I can't get to it
> easily. <shrugs> I like looking to make sure I retrieved the data
> correctly. 8^) Only been wrong once or twice. Mostly on roads I
> travel holistically...the route I plan is not the route I'm supposed
> to take to get where I need to go not where I wanted to go. Odd thing
> is I find decent places to eat or beautiful scenery more often than
> not. But it doesn't matter either way. The road is what matter not
> where I end up.
>
> Three rules of holistic travel plans:
>
>
>
> Sometimes the route you plan is most definitely NOT the route
> you should be taking.
>
>
>
>
>
> It becomes obvious in ways that are serendipitous, subtle and
> unobtrusive that ones planed route is both uninteresting and dull.
>
>
>
>
>
> Frankly sometimes you should follow your sense of curiosity and
> not any damn fool plan.
And having followed your sense of curiosity, now you're on reserve and
haven't seen a gas station in ages, so I don't know what _you_ do but I
ask the GPS to find me a gas station.
Or having followed your sense of curiosity for 6 hours since lunch
you've got a hankering for some Chinese food, I don't know what _you_ do
but I ask the GPS to find me a Chinese restaurant.
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:32:17 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<jclarke.usenet.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote:
>Keith Schiffner wrote:
>> SNIP
>> But the big lesson I learned through years of use in every
>> environment except artic was that there is NO SUBSTITUTE for knowing
>> how to use a map a compass and a protractor. Knowing how to plot a
That might actually matter to someone in the military. In at
I'm sure it does. TO everyone else - no.
>> route either on road or off and writing down when to turn, what
>> direction, how far between turns, whether there are route obstacles
>> to worry about.
>> Yes I take land navigation seriously. It is the difference between
>> lost and going places. I just have a proclivity for re-revising a
>> route because I feel like it.
>>
>> So like I said at the top. I have and I don't now and most likely
>> will never have another. It was a nice tool and crutch. I don't need
>> it anymore and a lot less than I used to.
>
>If that antique is what you're used to no wonder you don't like GPS.
>
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Timberwoof wrote:
> (My favorite myth about GPS is that the satellite and therefore some
> young Air Force lieutenant knows where you are.)
>
There was a CSI:Miami episode where they went to the military, and they
had a tracking map of all the GPSr's (the "r" is for "receiver") in the
area. So it must be true...
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:04 am
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In article <Yskgi.3065$RZ1.3014@trnddc05>,
Outback Jon <teammft.RemoveThis@ver.no.sp.am.izon.net> wrote:
> Timberwoof wrote:
> > (My favorite myth about GPS is that the satellite and therefore some
> > young Air Force lieutenant knows where you are.)
> >
>
> There was a CSI:Miami episode where they went to the military, and they
> had a tracking map of all the GPSr's (the "r" is for "receiver") in the
> area. So it must be true...
That's good! I like it!
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SNIP
>> Three rules of holistic travel plans:
>>
>>
>>
>> Sometimes the route you plan is most definitely NOT the route
>> you should be taking.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It becomes obvious in ways that are serendipitous, subtle and
>> unobtrusive that ones planed route is both uninteresting and dull.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Frankly sometimes you should follow your sense of curiosity and
>> not any damn fool plan.
>
> And having followed your sense of curiosity, now you're on reserve and
> haven't seen a gas station in ages, so I don't know what _you_ do but I
> ask the GPS to find me a gas station.
What you don't have a fuel gage? I top off somewhere between 1/4 tank and
hitting the orange. Not that it matters as I know how far I can get away with.
150-170 miles depending on whether or not I ride like sedate prole or I'm
listening to some modern surf. It's just sensible to no how far you can go on a
tank of fuel. Are you telling me you don't know how far you can go without a
GPS? You can't find fuel stops without a GPS? What happened to spotting useful
places during your normal scan of the road, spotting the fuel stops at least a
1/2 mile away?
Allowing for all that you mean to say you don't carry a spare gallon or two?
> Or having followed your sense of curiosity for 6 hours since lunch
> you've got a hankering for some Chinese food, I don't know what _you_ do
> but I ask the GPS to find me a Chinese restaurant.
When traveling I sometimes carry an old alpine II stove that runs on
kerosene/regular. Whip out a pack of ramen, shave some Spam into it and enjoy.
Couldn't be simpler...why make life complicated?
--
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