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BGN wrote:

> It appears that practical training is not required for new riders in
> the US before they get let out on the road?

Bzzzzt.

> Currently in the UK one needs to take the CBT,

Which, let's face it, is pretty much worthless.


> Theory test + Hazard Perception test

Not dissimilar to the US.

> and the in-depth practical test.

In depth? Don't make me laugh.


> And don't forget
> that the power of the machine one passes the practical test on
> dictates the maximum power of the machine they can ride.

So you do a DAS and within a month of deciding you want to be able to
ride a motorbike, you're able to ride a ZX10r if you can afford the bike
and insurance.


> Very shortly new riders will need to take the CBT, Theory test +
> Hazard Perception test and for the practical test it's a two part
> 'off-road manoeuvres' test and then an on-road persuit test.

and, people still won't know how to ride. Sure, they'll know how to
control a bike to a basic level required for the testing - but, as well
you know, none of that reflects real world riding on a regular basis.

>> You've done the UK and your crash record isn't exactly flawless, is it?
>
> Did I ever suggest that it was?

No, but it rather proves my point that the UK system is barely different
and certainly not "better" than the US system.

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The Older Gentleman wrote:

> > No one in their right mind would buy a superdream.
>
>
> At this point, I feel honour bound to mention that Zymurgy has five.

Yehbut we all know he's nuts.

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The Older Gentleman wrote:

> <deadmail.DeleteThis@burnt.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > No one in their right mind would buy a superdream.
>
>
> At this point, I feel honour bound to mention that Zymurgy has five.

And what's that supposed to prove, eh?

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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:00:27 +0100, Andy Bonwick
<nospam.DeleteThis@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:57:59 +0100, BGN <nickmooney.DeleteThis@spamcop.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:31:21 -0700, doetnietcomputeren
>><doesnotcompute.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Wow, so I'd need to circle a few questions on a sheet of paper, pay a
>>>> fee and then it's all over with? That was terribly complicated and
>>>> took lots of skill.
>>>
>>>As opposed to the UK where, you take a written test by tapping the
>>>answers on a screen?
>>
>>It appears that practical training is not required for new riders in
>>the US before they get let out on the road?
>>
>>> >>And after that "Motorcycle Rider Safety Course:
>>>
>>>Or, in some states, take a test.
>>>
>>>> So.. err, quite simple to get a full licence then?
>>>
>>>Apart from the CBT required in the UK, which is frankly a piece of piss,
>>>it's not really much different is it.
>>
>>Currently in the UK one needs to take the CBT, Theory test + Hazard
>>Perception test and the in-depth practical test. And don't forget
>>that the power of the machine one passes the practical test on
>>dictates the maximum power of the machine they can ride.
>>
><cough>
>
>DAS.

Which is the same test as someone on a 125 takes, but the power of the
bike that the test is taken on dictates the maximum power of the
machine they can ride.
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"vulgarandmischevious" <vulgarandmischevious.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:57:59 +0100 BGN wrote:
>
>>It appears that practical training is not required for new riders in
>>the US before they get let out on the road?
>
> wrong
>
>
not wrong at all...I took a written test to get the instruction permit,
then the "road test" involved riding down the block, turning the bike around
in a gravel lot, then coming back to the DMV's parking lot.... I was
informed before the "road" test that if I didn't "drop the bike" that I'd
pass....
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Bear wrote:
> In article <8ceuf3d07sgr4fca6nj5fc83kjiig7j11t DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
> vulgarandmischevious says...
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:58:41 +0100 Bear wrote:
>>
>>> The US army employs morons
>> <moronic grin>
>
> I was wondering when you'd turn up, Captain Mong

ITYF that's 'Captain Mong, sir' to you

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eric the brave says...
> Snag wrote:
>
> >
> > I know little about sport bike pricing , but have heard of "high mileage"
> > reducing the price . Busted plastic does that too . AFAIK , the average
> > miles per year here (west Tennessee) is less than 3,000 . That is an average
> > of all types of bike .
> >
>
> Quite interesting. I note that the Harley riders hardly do any miles in
> a year. However on Sports Tourer lists some of the bikes have done over
> 100k. More than one guy on a ZX10R forum has done over 50k. All that
> cleaning I guess

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"Turby" <turbosurfer.TakeThisOut@beach.comber> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:20:11 +0100, BGN <nickmooney.TakeThisOut@spamcop.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:51:10 -0600, vulgarandmischevious
>><vulgarandmischevious.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:48:34 +0100 BGN wrote:
>>>
>>>>Perhaps America can learn from it one day,
>>>
>>>or perhaps you can learn the procedures for getting a motorcycle license
>>>[sic] in the US.
>>
>>"Getting a motorcycle learner's permit is a simple task. Each state
>>determines its own requirements for obtaining a motorcycle permit, but
>>most states require you to take a written exam to receive a motorcycle
>>permit. This exam is separate from the exam that you take to get a
>>automobile driver's permit. After passing the exam, you will be
>>required to pay a fee before receiving your motorcycle learner's
>>permit."
>
> Source?

It's that way in Illinois. Problem?
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:25:47 GMT, "MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>"Turby" <turbosurfer.TakeThisOut@beach.comber> wrote in message
>news:3tovf35cpgdj2funialh9v42vvkebd6l2m@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:20:11 +0100, BGN <nickmooney.TakeThisOut@spamcop.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:51:10 -0600, vulgarandmischevious
>>><vulgarandmischevious.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:48:34 +0100 BGN wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps America can learn from it one day,
>>>>
>>>>or perhaps you can learn the procedures for getting a motorcycle license
>>>>[sic] in the US.
>>>
>>>"Getting a motorcycle learner's permit is a simple task. Each state
>>>determines its own requirements for obtaining a motorcycle permit, but
>>>most states require you to take a written exam to receive a motorcycle
>>>permit. This exam is separate from the exam that you take to get a
>>>automobile driver's permit. After passing the exam, you will be
>>>required to pay a fee before receiving your motorcycle learner's
>>>permit."
>>
>> Source?
>
>It's that way in Illinois. Problem?

Yeah, if someone thinks there is only one standard for getting a
license in the entire country. Or if they think that getting a
learner's permit is the same as a license.

When a person puts quote marks around a paragraph it's nice to know
who he's quoting. Was it some Brit travel guide, a German tourist's
blog, or the Illinois DMV?

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Pigpen wrote:

> > Issac's attention to the rural country road apparently drifted last
> > Thursday evening while coming home from a day's ride through the
> > foothills of California. He missed a turn and left the road.
> > Issac was declared brain dead at 1:30 this (Saturday) morning
> > California time.
>
> Sorry about you loss, Words aren't ever enough.
> Over the years we've made everything safer except the driver.

And in this case, the rider wasn't very safe. After all, he topped
'imself.

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