On the changing of tyres

Veggie Dave says...
> "Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" <eastREMOVEkent RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote the
> following literary masterpiece:
> >is changing a
> >140/90-15 tyre the kind of thing that would be do-able in one of the sheds,
> >but without the aid of pneumatic devices?
>
> Er, yes. A tyre's a tyre.

A 140/90-15...take it to a tyre fitter.

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Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot says...
> Veggie Dave wrote:
> > "Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" <eastREMOVEkent.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote the
> > following literary masterpiece:
> >> is changing a
> >> 140/90-15 tyre the kind of thing that would be do-able in one of the
> >> sheds, but without the aid of pneumatic devices?
> >
> > Er, yes. A tyre's a tyre.
>
> Ok, I just wondered if a wider, smaller diameter tyre might be a lot more
> difficult to get back on than a bigger, narrower one,

They are cunts to do, get a man in.

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Lozzo wrote:
> Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot says...
>
>>Veggie Dave wrote:
>>
>>>"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" <eastREMOVEkent DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote the
>>>following literary masterpiece:
>>>
>>>>is changing a
>>>>140/90-15 tyre the kind of thing that would be do-able in one of the
>>>>sheds, but without the aid of pneumatic devices?
>>>
>>>Er, yes. A tyre's a tyre.
>>
>>Ok, I just wondered if a wider, smaller diameter tyre might be a lot more
>>difficult to get back on than a bigger, narrower one,
>
>
> They are cunts to do, get a man in.

It's amazing what you can get to slip past, given the right amount
and type of lubrication.

Ru-Glyde is the dog's danglies in this case.

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On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:24:15 -0000, "Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot"
<eastREMOVEkent DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>Mark Olson wrote:
>> Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
>>> Drew.H wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use a vice.
>>>
>>>
>>> A good idea. I have one or two vices. Also a couple of size 10 boots.
>>
>> You could always purchase a manual tire changing machine.
>
>This is England, Mark. We are no longer allowed to perform potentially
>hazardous tasks such as changing tyres with machinery without the
>appropriate training and I'm risking a £5000 fine and 6 years imprisonment
>just asking for advice on this subject. We're allowed to pump tyres up if
>done with an approved pump covered in pink fluff.

heh.

Tho, to be serious, you can buy a manual bead breaker - I think ABBA
[1] do one, but I was always put off cos I thought it way over priced
at about 70~80 quid.


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Champ wrote:

> Tho, to be serious, you can buy a manual bead breaker - I think ABBA
> [1] do one, but I was always put off cos I thought it way over priced
> at about 70~80 quid.

Or you can fab one out of odd bits of lumber for next to SFA.

Or if you're really slick with tools and all, you can make one
out of some 25mm angle iron.

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Champ wrote:

> Tho, to be serious, you can buy a manual bead breaker - I think ABBA
> [1] do one, but I was always put off cos I thought it way over priced
> at about 70~80 quid.

Or you can fab one out of odd bits of lumber for next to SFA.

Or if you're really slick with tools and all, you can make one
out of some 25mm angle iron.

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Mark Olson <olsonm.TakeThisOut@tiny.invalid> wrote in message
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> Champ wrote:
>
> > Tho, to be serious, you can buy a manual bead breaker - I think ABBA
> > [1] do one, but I was always put off cos I thought it way over priced
> > at about 70~80 quid.
>
> Or you can fab one out of odd bits of lumber for next to SFA.
>
This is what I did, and breaks the beads on 160/60 17s with ease. Basically
a long lever with a large wooden peg attached (to press on the bead) and a
piece of wood bolted to a wall to lever against.

I think the difficulty in removal and re-fitting then really depends on just
how much you don't want to damage the rims. I would try and get some proper
tyre soap if you can as washing up liquid and the like often contain salt.
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"sweller" <sweller RemoveThis @mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> JB wrote:
>
>> > I did the front tyre myself last summer but that's a fair bit bigger
>> > and that much more leverable, but I've never changed a back tyre
>> > with such a small diameter. What say the grease monkeys?
>> >
>> I've done it but it ain't pleasant or easy even with decent tyre
>> levers. Assuming of course you can actually break the bead in the first
>> place! Take it to a tyre fitters. Less pain/no trapped fingers/less
>> rim damage etc...
>
> I can do it, have done it, will do it if forced but as a rule I take
> tyres to the tyre fitters.
>
*ding*. The solo Guzzi is a doddle but the FJ1100 is a pig with its 16" F&R
wheels.

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Veggie Dave wrote:
> Eiron <E1ron.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>> You generally need to remove the valve core, put a tie-down strap
>> around the tyre crown, and use a garage airline, to have any chance of
>> seating
>> a tubeless tyre.
>
> Having changed literally hundreds upon hundreds of tyres using a foot
> pump I'd have to say this is bollocks.

So how did you get the tubeless tyre to seal well enough to the wheel
to hold pressure before there was enough pressure to seal the tyre to
the wheel, if you see what I mean? My Aldi compressor should work fine
but I never got a foot pump to do the job.

And how have you managed to fit at least 400 tyres in one lifetime
without investing in an electric pump?

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On 7 Feb 2008 09:03:19 GMT, "sweller" <sweller DeleteThis @mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>[1] I used to cut sidewalls out to 'double-wall' tyres - that is to run
>a tyre, an inner tube and an additional sidewall between tyre and rim
>bead seat to protect the actual sidewall in banger races.

I used to use my Dad's Black and Decker drill, with a 'jigsaw
attachment' to do that very task.

You can get *impressive* amounts of smoke from cutting tyres with an
angle grinder. Especially if you can't be bothered to change the
grinding disc for a cutter.

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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:28:56 +0000, Eiron <E1ron RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>Veggie Dave wrote:

>> Having changed literally hundreds upon hundreds of tyres using a foot
>> pump I'd have to say this is bollocks.
>
>So how did you get the tubeless tyre to seal well enough to the wheel
>to hold pressure before there was enough pressure to seal the tyre to
>the wheel, if you see what I mean? My Aldi compressor should work fine
>but I never got a foot pump to do the job.

I've done this with lots of car tyres, which are likely to be harder
to get to seal, especially if they're second hand. Plenty of gloop,
throw the tyre on to one side hard so that bead is sealed, then stand
the wheel upright and put your arms around it, squeezing the tyre onto
the wheel - all the while pumping the footpump like a man possessed.

In extreme cases, a ratchet strap around the tread, tightened
sufficiently to push the tyre into the well and make it spread a bit.

"Fitting tyres is like making love to a beautiful woman ... "

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Ace wrote:

> Wha! They've changed Swarfega? Please god, no. Many of my best
> childhood and later memories revolve around the slimy green stuff.

*W*TMI

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CT says...
> Ace wrote:
>
> > Wha! They've changed Swarfega? Please god, no. Many of my best
> > childhood and later memories revolve around the slimy green stuff.
>
> *W*TMI

If it helps to give you nightmares, he's not the only one.

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