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Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoo

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:39 pm
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Chaps,

I appreciate many of you don't know what a spanner *does*, let alone how to
brandish one productively, but to those who do, and do: is changing a
140/90-15 tyre the kind of thing that would be do-able in one of the sheds,
but without the aid of pneumatic devices?

I did the front tyre myself last summer but that's a fair bit bigger and
that much more leverable, but I've never changed a back tyre with such a
small diameter. What say the grease monkeys?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:42 pm
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"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" <eastREMOVEkent DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Chaps,
>
> I appreciate many of you don't know what a spanner *does*, let alone how
> to brandish one productively, but to those who do, and do: is changing a
> 140/90-15 tyre the kind of thing that would be do-able in one of the
> sheds, but without the aid of pneumatic devices?
>
> I did the front tyre myself last summer but that's a fair bit bigger and
> that much more leverable, but I've never changed a back tyre with such a
> small diameter. What say the grease monkeys?
>
I've done it but it ain't pleasant or easy even with decent tyre levers.
Assuming of course you can actually break the bead in the first place!
Take it to a tyre fitters. Less pain/no trapped fingers/less rim damage
etc...

JB

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:11 pm
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"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" <eastREMOVEkent DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote the
following literary masterpiece:
>is changing a
>140/90-15 tyre the kind of thing that would be do-able in one of the sheds,
>but without the aid of pneumatic devices?

Er, yes. A tyre's a tyre.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:33 pm
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Champ <neal DeleteThis @champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>but you do need compressed air to seat the new tyre.

A tyre can be seated with a foot pump. It's a lot easier with a
compressor, but it's not essential.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:10 pm
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Veggie Dave wrote:
> Champ <neal.DeleteThis@champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>> but you do need compressed air to seat the new tyre.
>
> A tyre can be seated with a foot pump. It's a lot easier with a
> compressor, but it's not essential.

You generally need to remove the valve core, put a tie-down strap around
the tyre crown, and use a garage airline, to have any chance of seating
a tubeless tyre. Much easier to wave a five pound note at a professional.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:49 pm
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Eiron <E1ron.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>You generally need to remove the valve core, put a tie-down strap
>around the tyre crown, and use a garage airline, to have any chance of
>seating
>a tubeless tyre.

Having changed literally hundreds upon hundreds of tyres using a foot
pump I'd have to say this is bollocks.

>Much easier to wave a five pound note at a professional.

This, however, isn't.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:18 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:51 pm
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In communiqué <p4ednXmrpdwDJTTanZ2dnUVZ8q-rnZ2d DeleteThis @pipex.net>, "Mungo "Two
Sheds" Toadfoot" <eastREMOVEkent DeleteThis @gmail.com> cast forth these pearls of
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>Chaps,
>
>I appreciate many of you don't know what a spanner *does*, let alone how to
>brandish one productively, but to those who do, and do: is changing a
>140/90-15 tyre the kind of thing that would be do-able in one of the sheds,
>but without the aid of pneumatic devices?
>
>I did the front tyre myself last summer but that's a fair bit bigger and
>that much more leverable, but I've never changed a back tyre with such a
>small diameter. What say the grease monkeys?
>

I used to years ago in the days of tubed tyres. Even then I stopped
doing it after an epic battle with a recalcitrant Metzeler on the back
of the R90/6.

These days I tend not to even take the wheels out myself unless it is
not road legal and just ride to Magnum for them to do while I for a
coffee to pass the time.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:25 pm
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Veggie Dave wrote:
> "Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" <eastREMOVEkent.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote the
> following literary masterpiece:
>> is changing a
>> 140/90-15 tyre the kind of thing that would be do-able in one of the
>> sheds, but without the aid of pneumatic devices?
>
> Er, yes. A tyre's a tyre.

Ok, I just wondered if a wider, smaller diameter tyre might be a lot more
difficult to get back on than a bigger, narrower one, but I suppose a tyre
is, as you say, a tyre; they're all pretty stiff.

I like to do most things myself if I can so I'll at least get the old tyre
off to see what I think of that part of the operation.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:28 pm
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Drew.H wrote:
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> I use a vice.

A good idea. I have one or two vices. Also a couple of size 10 boots.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:28 pm
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Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
> Drew.H wrote:
>
>>I use a vice.
>
>
> A good idea. I have one or two vices. Also a couple of size 10 boots.

You could always purchase a manual tire changing machine. Harbor
Freight (no idea what is your local equivalent) sells a cheap and
cheerful Chinese unit for less than $100 all in. I bought mine when
I had five bikes. Even with three bikes I find it to be well worth
the cost and the space it takes up in my garage. The freedom to
change tires when I choose and to buy tires cheaply online means I
am very unlikely to ever have a shop change tires for me again.

PORTABLE TIRE CHANGER
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34542

MOTORCYCLE TIRE CHANGER ATTACHMENT
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=42927

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:58 pm
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"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" <eastREMOVEkent.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote the
following literary masterpiece:
>I like to do most things myself if I can so I'll at least get the old tyre
>off to see what I think of that part of the operation.

Quite honestly, if you don't have to do it yourself then I wouldn't
bother. While it's a job I can do, I only do it because there is no
alternative at the time.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:02 pm
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Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
> Veggie Dave wrote:
>> "Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" <eastREMOVEkent.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote the
>> following literary masterpiece:
>>> is changing a
>>> 140/90-15 tyre the kind of thing that would be do-able in one of the
>>> sheds, but without the aid of pneumatic devices?
>> Er, yes. A tyre's a tyre.
>
> Ok, I just wondered if a wider, smaller diameter tyre might be a lot more
> difficult to get back on than a bigger, narrower one, but I suppose a tyre
> is, as you say, a tyre; they're all pretty stiff.
>
> I like to do most things myself if I can so I'll at least get the old tyre
> off to see what I think of that part of the operation.

If the old tyre is to be scrapped, once you've broken both beads, it's often
easier to use a Stanley knife to slit round one sidewall. Then the tyre
can be removed without any tools. I haven't worked out how to use an angle
grinder in tyre fitting yet. Smile

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:04 pm
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Eiron
<E1ron.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> typed
> I haven't worked out how to use an angle
>grinder in tyre fitting yet. Smile

Silly person.

You've got to get the wheel off, haven't you?

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My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:49 pm
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Veggie Dave wrote:
> "Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" <eastREMOVEkent.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote the
> following literary masterpiece:
>> I like to do most things myself if I can so I'll at least get the
>> old tyre off to see what I think of that part of the operation.
>
> Quite honestly, if you don't have to do it yourself then I wouldn't
> bother. While it's a job I can do, I only do it because there is no
> alternative at the time.

I'm tending to agree, even though it goes against the grain a bit, although
less so the older I get.

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