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Since: May 24, 2007 Posts: 12
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(Msg. 31) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:36 pm
Post subject: Re: What causes the bike to jump forward 2ft when starting up? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>motorcycle>sportbike (more info?)
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"Dave" wrote in message
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> "nash" wrote in message
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>> That was unnecessary Dave. Some manuals say on the stand some not. What
>> is wrong with that if it does not have a center stand? I did not know
>> the crush ring was so all fired important to motorcycing so shut the hell
>> up. No need to reply if you have nothing positive to say to someone who
>> it trying to learn unlike you. Dunk Think a minute genius.
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> Get a thicker skin, this is a newsgroup.
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> I did have some advice: take it to a professional before you break it. I
> also recommended that you get your hands on a shop manual and read it. A
> good shop manual has theory of operation mixed in or prefaced to the text
> of the actual repair/maintenance work, in order that you have a "big
> picture" view of what you're doing and why.
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> I mean no offense to you personally, sorry for the dipshit comment, yes it
> was unnecessary. If you are so unskilled as to believe that the grade of
> engine oil could in any way (short of a leak which sprays oil into parts
> of your electrical system) damage the ignition "because of its pressure
> rating", the likelihood of your doing any sort of maintenance successfully
> is very very slim. Lacking a proper understanding of how the engine
> works, and how what you're doing could potentially affect the operation of
> the engine, is asking for trouble... you just don't understand the
> potential consequences of what you're doing. You tend to draw erroneous
> conclusions because you lack the proper knowledge to draw the correct
> conclusions.
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> So... educate yourself. Preferably before posting your completely
> unsubstantiated statements of non-fact to an unmoderated newsgroup.
> You'll get a lot more out of the motorcycle, and this newsgroup.
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> Dave S.
right I lost that url but I read it somewhere, I thought, but oil has
pressure ratings and maybe it was just another forum but I thought they said
what I said, and yes I am confused and sound confused. thanks alot : )
I will try to be more substantive. I needed info fast I guess and got
dinged. Still working on getting a manual in Canada. Suzuki does not give
phone no.'s or email for 2 weeks to answer. Dealers do not want my
questions even if would make them money. That is why I am confused.
Vancouver Library is still on strike. They have the best books. My bike
is not insured anymore in 5 days +/- and I have alot to do. I cannot make
this sh** up out of thin air.
All is well though, sort of, the oil has to be changed cause it is dirty
now after one week and the crushed seal makes that unanimous.
You have to start somewhere. Battery may need charging after trying
ignition too many times Someone here says it could have gone down to 5
volts and still have lights work but not enough for it to start up. My 1993
Suzuki DR125 had a better engine. no problems, but it was stolen after one
and half months of owning it. MC's are just one big hassle for me right now
you might figure. >> Stay informed about: What causes the bike to jump forward 2ft when starting up? |
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Since: May 01, 2006 Posts: 329
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:36 pm
Post subject: Re: What causes the bike to jump forward 2ft when starting up? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On 9/27/07 12:36 PM, "nash" wrote:
> right I lost that url but I read it somewhere, I thought, but oil has
> pressure ratings and maybe it was just another forum but I thought they said
> what I said, and yes I am confused and sound confused. thanks alot : )
Don't believe everything you hear in online forums. False experts abound on
the internet.
> I will try to be more substantive. I needed info fast I guess and got
> dinged. Still working on getting a manual in Canada. Suzuki does not give
> phone no.'s or email for 2 weeks to answer. Dealers do not want my
> questions even if would make them money.
http://www.motorcycleownersmanual.com/
http://www.ronayers.com/catalogs/pu/parts.cfm?topsecid=3&subsecid=29&type=11
64&secid=108
Google works. Give it a try sometime.
> All is well though, sort of, the oil has to be changed cause it is dirty
> now after one week and the crushed seal makes that unanimous.
> You have to start somewhere. Battery may need charging after trying
> ignition too many times Someone here says it could have gone down to 5
> volts and still have lights work but not enough for it to start up. My 1993
> Suzuki DR125 had a better engine. no problems, but it was stolen after one
> and half months of owning it. MC's are just one big hassle for me right now
> you might figure.
Learn how to treat them right and they are much less hassle.
--
Jamin
"Freedom costs a buck-oh-five"
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> Stay informed about: What causes the bike to jump forward 2ft when starting up? |
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Since: Jul 13, 2007 Posts: 15
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:41 pm
Post subject: Re: What causes the bike to jump forward 2ft when starting up? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Sep 27, 2:07 pm, "TroytheTroll" wrote:
> > Besides being Canadian, Nash is an environmentally-conscious
> > *bicyclist*, so he's really not a gear head. But his ideas are no
> > weirder or more impractical than a lot of nerdy IT professionals that
> > I see posting to Usenet motorcycle NG's.
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> Good thing I'm not in that group, otherwise I'd feel terribly insulted!!
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> > I read Usenet to help people who ask questions. It's a sad commentary
> > on Usenet that an information system has been allowed to become an
> > adversarial arena used for petty arguments.
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> Or generalizations about the nerdiness of IT groupies either!!
Please read saddlebag's post above >> Stay informed about: What causes the bike to jump forward 2ft when starting up? |
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Since: Jun 29, 2006 Posts: 266
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:45 am
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Since: Jun 29, 2006 Posts: 266
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:23 am
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Since: Mar 19, 2005 Posts: 89
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:26 pm
Post subject: Re: What causes the bike to jump forward 2ft when starting up? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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TroytheTroll wrote:
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>> On Sep 24, 8:23 pm, "smn" wrote:
>>> Ever since I filled the oil, and I put a whole liter in a 850ml oil
>>> compartment, the bike jumps strongly forward. What causes that. A
>>> loose
>>> clutch cable causing it to go in gear? And what does the oil refill
>>> have
>>> to do with that? Oh yeah, it crawls at 3-4 mph with the clutch in
>>> and the
>>> throttle closed whilst in first gear too. Spooky
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>> Normally just the lower bit of the clutch is in oil. By overfilling
>> the oil more of the clutch is in it causing more drag between the
>> drive plates and the driven plates.
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> Mine always did this worse cold than warm. Once the thick oil thins a
> bit, its usually a non issue.
Put another way, that bike is unlikely to start at all in a few weeks
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Since: May 24, 2007 Posts: 12
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:24 am
Post subject: Re: What causes the bike to jump forward 2ft when starting up? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Jamin" wrote in message
> On 9/27/07 12:36 PM, "nash" wrote:
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>> right I lost that url but I read it somewhere, I thought, but oil has
>> pressure ratings and maybe it was just another forum but I thought they
>> said
>> what I said, and yes I am confused and sound confused. thanks alot : )
>
> Don't believe everything you hear in online forums. False experts abound
> on
> the internet.
>
>> I will try to be more substantive. I needed info fast I guess and got
>> dinged. Still working on getting a manual in Canada. Suzuki does not
>> give
>> phone no.'s or email for 2 weeks to answer. Dealers do not want my
>> questions even if would make them money.
>
> http://www.motorcycleownersmanual.com/
> http://www.ronayers.com/catalogs/pu/parts.cfm?topsecid=3&subsecid=29&type=11
> 64&secid=108
>
> Google works. Give it a try sometime.
That does not work for a Suzuki DR200SE only a 250 which has maybe been the
problem all along. US make 200's I wonder.
I have searched for weeks google and ebay, amazon, chapters, clymer, haynes.
It is not a popular year, model or something eh?
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>> All is well though, sort of, the oil has to be changed cause it is
>> dirty
>> now after one week and the crushed seal makes that unanimous.
>> You have to start somewhere. Battery may need charging after trying
>> ignition too many times Someone here says it could have gone down to 5
>> volts and still have lights work but not enough for it to start up. My
>> 1993
>> Suzuki DR125 had a better engine. no problems, but it was stolen after
>> one
>> and half months of owning it. MC's are just one big hassle for me right
>> now
>> you might figure.
>
> Learn how to treat them right and they are much less hassle.
>
> --
> Jamin
> "Freedom costs a buck-oh-five"
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>
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> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >> Stay informed about: What causes the bike to jump forward 2ft when starting up? |
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Since: Aug 31, 2007 Posts: 24
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:31 pm
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