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Since: Aug 23, 2007 Posts: 90
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:45 am
Post subject: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power Archived from groups: alt>motorcycle>sportbike (more info?)
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Seeing as how this is a sportbike group - I thought I'd share a few
observations from my weekend ride.
I woke up early Saturday morning to 36 degrees and sunshine in South
Central Wisconsin. My Triumph 675 "Spitfire" was calling - but the
earth wasn't ready yet.
I hung out with my lady, we shared a nice brunch, and I did a few
chores. By noon, it was getting close enough to cresting 50 and the
highway called.
I fired up the lil triple, wiped the visor on my mirrored helmet
clear, and mounted the gel seat with a smile on the inside. I was
riding alone today, wearing full leather armor and a backprotector,
and had a rear tire to finish in less than mileage than it's intended
longevity.
The 180/55 Michelin Pilot Power on the rear had carried me 2400 miles
in the last month. Twisties all over the Driftless Area of my
homeland, at an aggressive pace, and to visit an old friend in the
Ozarks of So MO, where we rode a lot of excellent roads together. He
road a new Bandit 1250, and knew all about how to handle (or race) a
big bore inline four. I had no trouble keeping up on the super
flickable 675, but he made me work for it all through his favorite
loops in N. Ark and around 160 and 19 in So MO. The old gent used to
race, and my young blood is new to sportbike riding as a dedicated
discipline. 14 years and over 100,000 miles of sport touring gives me
a real solid foundation, but really pushing the lines on a dedicated
sportbike is something I made myself wait to try.
So anyway, back to the story, I rode random roads with the refurbished
Garmin 2610 giving me some idea of which turn woulld be the more
interesting choice before needing to make it. I was near familiar
territory but scouting for fresh backroads, and the day was getting
warmer all along.
And given that I was likely on the last ride with my still acceptable
but nearing completion rear super sticky tire, I was trying to burn it
up and test traction in corners and along the ride.
On one hand, I sort of resent sportbike dedicated tires, and their
meager 2000-3000 mile lifespans. I just think a tire should last 5000
miles of hard use, or more. But then on the other hand, keeping
reliable traction at high speeds on some mixed surfaces, and basically
being able to ride on the ceiling when your tires are hot enough, has
a certain confidence inspiring quality.
So I was tearing it up, comfortably cresting 140 mph on clear
straights, and then practicing hanging off the bike in tight to sweepy
turns at 75-100 mph. The tires felt more stable in the turns, but on
the exits the rear would slip on occassion as I peaked the litttle
engine up above 10,000 rpms and near 14K redline. The six blue lights
on the side of the instrument panel are the only thing I look at with
the corner of my eye when riding like that, and they basicallly tell
you when you are in the peak powerband, and keep you grinning so long
as one or more is continuously lit up.
I railed twisties, crested hills on one wheel, and tucked into top
speeds without a worry. Not a single cop was noticed, no radar guns
crossed my path, and I averaged 34 mpg with absolutely no respect for
throttle modesty or tire preservation. It was an eyeball opening,
wrist stretching, and central nervous system arousing kind of ride.
It lasted over 300 miles.
I wound it in back towards town before the deer started to really
jump, and checked out a wooden boat show with Chris Craft and other
nifty restored boats from 60-80 years past on a lake that is near my
home. I reflected by the lake on these old V-8 powered inboard
beauties, and how my great grandchildren might look with young but
more knowing eyes on my old petrol burning british sportbike. They'll
probably know how to build a much better machine, but hopefully
they'll appreciate the small red rocket that gave me such joy that
day.
Modern sport bikes offer a wonderful clarity, prowess, and alacrity of
movement on today's backroads. I give thanks and praises to all who
have contributed to what they are and how wonderfully they can do a
very specialized task very very quickly.
And it is about time for a new tire.... Good thing the new Michelin
Pilot Road 2 just arrived at my friendly neighborhood cycle shop with
my name on it. Hopefully this one will last a few more trips, and at
least let me continue to ride on the walls, if not the ceiling....
-V >> Stay informed about: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power |
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Since: Jun 01, 2007 Posts: 394
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:45 am
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Since: Aug 15, 2006 Posts: 1262
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:26 pm
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Since: Jun 01, 2007 Posts: 253
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:04 pm
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On Sep 17, 5:42 pm, "Battleax" wrote:
> "Vaughn" wrote in message
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> > On Sep 17, 1:26 pm, "TroytheTroll" wrote:
> >> > So I was tearing it up, comfortably cresting 140 mph on clear
> >> > straights, and then practicing hanging off the bike in tight to sweepy
> >> > turns at 75-100 mph.
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> >> Thats pretty damn stupid to be doing on the street.
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> > Not really, I was only at about 75%, on known backroads, in perfect
> > conditions once it warmed up, and had clear lines of visibility (no
> > blind curves/driveways).
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> > The 675 makes it easier to ride at those speeds than any other bike
> > I've previously tried. You'd probably be surprised how much easier it
> > makes riding fast.
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> > Though I'd prefer to do it on a track, at $180/day to do trackdays, it
> > isn't in my budget.
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> 100 in corners
100 mph into anything isn't a corner. It's a huge sweeper. And far
out in the country I can see it. Not 300 miles worth of it, but
definitely wouldn't be to be a big deal to hit those speeds. Last
trip through BC a friend and I were rolling our Goldwings at 110 mph
just to stay ahead of semi riding our ass. >> Stay informed about: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power |
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Since: Jun 01, 2007 Posts: 253
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Sep 17, 6:39 pm, "Andrew"
wrote:
> "Vaughn" wrote in message
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> > On Sep 17, 1:26 pm, "TroytheTroll" wrote:
> >> > So I was tearing it up, comfortably cresting 140 mph on clear
> >> > straights, and then practicing hanging off the bike in tight to sweepy
> >> > turns at 75-100 mph.
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> >> Thats pretty damn stupid to be doing on the street.
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> > Not really, I was only at about 75%, on known backroads, in perfect
> > conditions once it warmed up, and had clear lines of visibility (no
> > blind curves/driveways).
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> > The 675 makes it easier to ride at those speeds than any other bike
> > I've previously tried. You'd probably be surprised how much easier it
> > makes riding fast.
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> > Though I'd prefer to do it on a track, at $180/day to do trackdays, it
> > isn't in my budget.
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> I'd much rather spend 180.00 for a trackday than 300.00 for my lawyer.
Yeah, but if you only get caught once every thousand rides, your
lawyer is virtually free. But in all honesty the public places where
I'd go that fast are few and far between. >> Stay informed about: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power |
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Since: Aug 23, 2007 Posts: 90
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:45 pm
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On Sep 17, 1:26 pm, "TroytheTroll" wrote:
> > So I was tearing it up, comfortably cresting 140 mph on clear
> > straights, and then practicing hanging off the bike in tight to sweepy
> > turns at 75-100 mph.
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> Thats pretty damn stupid to be doing on the street.
Not really, I was only at about 75%, on known backroads, in perfect
conditions once it warmed up, and had clear lines of visibility (no
blind curves/driveways).
The 675 makes it easier to ride at those speeds than any other bike
I've previously tried. You'd probably be surprised how much easier it
makes riding fast.
Though I'd prefer to do it on a track, at $180/day to do trackdays, it
isn't in my budget. >> Stay informed about: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power |
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Since: Aug 21, 2007 Posts: 45
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:45 pm
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:41:21 -0000, Vaughn wrote:
>On Sep 17, 1:26 pm, "TroytheTroll" wrote:
>> > So I was tearing it up, comfortably cresting 140 mph on clear
>> > straights, and then practicing hanging off the bike in tight to sweepy
>> > turns at 75-100 mph.
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>> Thats pretty damn stupid to be doing on the street.
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>Not really, I was only at about 75%, on known backroads, in perfect
>conditions once it warmed up, and had clear lines of visibility (no
>blind curves/driveways).
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>The 675 makes it easier to ride at those speeds than any other bike
>I've previously tried. You'd probably be surprised how much easier it
>makes riding fast.
>
>Though I'd prefer to do it on a track, at $180/day to do trackdays, it
>isn't in my budget.
>
Are hospital bills or Funerals in your budget? >> Stay informed about: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power |
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Since: Mar 14, 2007 Posts: 152
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:45 pm
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"Vaughn" wrote in message
> On Sep 17, 1:26 pm, "TroytheTroll" wrote:
>> > So I was tearing it up, comfortably cresting 140 mph on clear
>> > straights, and then practicing hanging off the bike in tight to sweepy
>> > turns at 75-100 mph.
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>> Thats pretty damn stupid to be doing on the street.
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> Not really, I was only at about 75%, on known backroads, in perfect
> conditions once it warmed up, and had clear lines of visibility (no
> blind curves/driveways).
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> The 675 makes it easier to ride at those speeds than any other bike
> I've previously tried. You'd probably be surprised how much easier it
> makes riding fast.
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> Though I'd prefer to do it on a track, at $180/day to do trackdays, it
> isn't in my budget.
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I'd much rather spend 180.00 for a trackday than 300.00 for my lawyer.
--
Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Infant >> Stay informed about: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power |
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Since: Jun 01, 2007 Posts: 394
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:01 pm
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On Sep 17, 6:49 pm, BrianNZ wrote:
> Vaughn wrote:
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> > And it is about time for a new tire.... Good thing the new Michelin
> > Pilot Road 2 just arrived at my friendly neighborhood cycle shop with
> > my name on it. Hopefully this one will last a few more trips, and at
> > least let me continue to ride on the walls, if not the ceiling....
> looks like you wee having fun.....ignore the head shakers and 'what if'
> brigade. You were riding the bike how it was intended to be ridden.
> Enjoy!........
Exactly. And don't worry wrt those worn tires. New tires are for
wussies. Hells bells, if you can't run 140 on the public streets on
shagged tires, you ought to just gtf out of riding entirely and drive
a Ford Excursion diesel. >> Stay informed about: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power |
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Since: Aug 15, 2006 Posts: 1262
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:59 pm
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"Vaughn" wrote in message
> On Sep 17, 1:26 pm, "TroytheTroll" wrote:
>> > So I was tearing it up, comfortably cresting 140 mph on clear
>> > straights, and then practicing hanging off the bike in tight to sweepy
>> > turns at 75-100 mph.
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>> Thats pretty damn stupid to be doing on the street.
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> Not really, I was only at about 75%, on known backroads, in perfect
> conditions once it warmed up, and had clear lines of visibility (no
> blind curves/driveways).
Of course. And the world always works just as we expect it to on nice days
versus bad ones, unexpected things never happen on those days and all in
all, its perfectly okay to want to blitz along at whatever supra-legal speed
any of us wishes to any time WE decide conditions are right.
If you are doing 75-100 in "tight to sweepy turns" then sure as hell you
can't see particularly far ahead, otherwise it wouldn't be a "tight and
sweepy" turn.
And if you assume that you are 100% capable of missing a farmers child who
dashes out of the odd corn/hay field playing tag with his brother when
clipping along on a public road at 140 and knowing exactly where the
antifreeze got dumped the other day, you are a better man than all of us,
and it would STILL be a damn stupid thing to do on the street.
> The 675 makes it easier to ride at those speeds than any other bike
> I've previously tried. You'd probably be surprised how much easier it
> makes riding fast.
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We've all owned bikes which made it easy to go fast. My FZR400 and 900RR
come to mind, and it would be a damn stupid thing to use them on the street
in the manner you've described.
> Though I'd prefer to do it on a track, at $180/day to do trackdays, it
> isn't in my budget.
Thats okay, just don't pretend its okay to replace a trackday with a high
speed blitz up a public highway. >> Stay informed about: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power |
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Since: Jun 01, 2007 Posts: 394
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:30 pm
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On Sep 17, 9:10 pm, BrianNZ wrote:
> TroytheTroll wrote:
> > "Vaughn" wrote in message
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> >> On Sep 17, 1:26 pm, "TroytheTroll" wrote:
> >> The 675 makes it easier to ride at those speeds than any other bike
> >> I've previously tried. You'd probably be surprised how much easier it
> >> makes riding fast.
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> > We've all owned bikes which made it easy to go fast. My FZR400 and 900RR
> > come to mind, and it would be a damn stupid thing to use them on the
> > street in the manner you've described.
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> Luckily you've bowed out of sportsbikes and moved back to a big single.
How are you going to dismiss the criticisms of the other sportbike
riders, racers, safety instructors, and roadracing instructors who
also find such antics to be immature and unsafe? >> Stay informed about: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:32 pm
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:45 pm
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Vaughn wrote:
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> And it is about time for a new tire.... Good thing the new Michelin
> Pilot Road 2 just arrived at my friendly neighborhood cycle shop with
> my name on it. Hopefully this one will last a few more trips, and at
> least let me continue to ride on the walls, if not the ceiling....
>
> -V
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looks like you wee having fun.....ignore the head shakers and 'what if'
brigade. You were riding the bike how it was intended to be ridden.
Enjoy!........ >> Stay informed about: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:45 pm
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Andrew wrote:
> "Vaughn" wrote in message
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>> On Sep 17, 1:26 pm, "TroytheTroll" wrote:
>>> > So I was tearing it up, comfortably cresting 140 mph on clear
>>> > straights, and then practicing hanging off the bike in tight to sweepy
>>> > turns at 75-100 mph.
>>>
>>> Thats pretty damn stupid to be doing on the street.
>>
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>> Not really, I was only at about 75%, on known backroads, in perfect
>> conditions once it warmed up, and had clear lines of visibility (no
>> blind curves/driveways).
>>
>> The 675 makes it easier to ride at those speeds than any other bike
>> I've previously tried. You'd probably be surprised how much easier it
>> makes riding fast.
>>
>> Though I'd prefer to do it on a track, at $180/day to do trackdays, it
>> isn't in my budget.
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> I'd much rather spend 180.00 for a trackday than 300.00 for my lawyer.
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A trackday is totally different to high speed road riding. It depends on
wether you want to shave 1/2 a second off a lap time or enjoy the roll
of never repeated scenery (white line fever). >> Stay informed about: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:03 pm
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Vaughn wrote:
> The high speed stuff was in a very remote location, surrounded by
> cornfields, soybeans, and hay. There was no other traffic. There
> were no driveways. There were no other people, just occassional cows
> and horses.
Deer like corn a lot. And mid-September is the start of mating season,
when they are thinking about just one thing, and no, it's not whether
you are coming down the road at 140 as they exit the corn field.
--
Denise AFM #732 denise dot howard at comcast dot net
'00 SV650 | '00 929
Lippman Racing CBR 400RR >> Stay informed about: Weekend Sport Riding Report - Finishing off a Pilot Power |
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