WSB spoiler.

martin linnell wrote:


  >> Seems that the WSB organisers are determined to eliminate any interest in
  >> the sport at all. Chris V was disqualified after the cutout switch that
  >> stops the engine in the event the bike crashes failed to work during
  >> scrutineering. Thats clearly the reason he did so well in race 2. Surely a
  >> hefty fine is more appropriate in such circumstances. Are the organisers
  >> afraid of another Honda comeback? For Gods sake the Honda is the only non
  >> Duke thats even got a sniff in the championship and is at least creating a
  >> bit of excitement, Superbikes popularity is struggling and they hope to
 >keep
  >> the spectators happy with rulings like that, they really do have their
 >heads
  >> right up their arses.
  >>
  >> Paul
  >>
  >> I agree. What a pathetic petty attitude.

Another view. This is a safety rule and IMHO safety rules should be
enforced rigorously. It's somewhat ironic here that Honda are often the
first to protest when someone else breaks the rules. They tried hard to
get Bayliss excluded at Silverstone two years ago for the same issue.
Racing is dangerous and these rules, like the passing under a yellow
rule, need to be enforced. It's unfortunate and not good for the
championship, but it is ultimately good for racing, the riders and the
marshals.

Which then raises the issue of Rossi at Le Mans. They had pit staff on
the grid after the 30 second warning. Rossi didn't return to the pit
lane to get his bike started. And he didn't start from the back of the
grid. All required by the rule book as read out on air by Toby Moody and
Julian Ryder during the warm up lap. And yet I've heard nothing about
any complaints.

--
Julian Bond Email&MSM: julian.bond at voidstar.com
Webmaster: <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.ecademy.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ecademy.com/</a>
Personal WebLog: <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.voidstar.com/" target="_blank">http://www.voidstar.com/</a>
M: +44 (0)77 5907 2173 T: +44 (0)192 0412 433
 >> Stay informed about: WSB spoiler. 

We could say the opposite as:
GP125 Honda
GP250 Honda
MotoGP Honda
600 WSS Honda
So Ducati is the only non Honda to have win something this week-end

 > For Gods sake the Honda is the only non
 > Duke thats even got a sniff in the championship and is at least creating a
 > bit of excitement, Superbikes popularity is struggling and they hope to
keep
 > the spectators happy with rulings like that, they really do have their
heads
 > right up their arses.
 >
 > Paul
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: WSB spoiler. 

"pierre bonneau" wrote in message

 > We could say the opposite as:
 > GP125 Honda
 > GP250 Honda
 > MotoGP Honda
 > 600 WSS Honda
 > So Ducati is the only non Honda to have win something this week-end

But in the land of democracy:

Superbike: Suzuki, Honda
Supersport: Kawasaki
Superstock: Yamaha
Formula Xtreme: Honda

And the best racing of the weekend as well...
 >> Stay informed about: WSB spoiler. 

I'm not sure about Foret's bike though (it's a Yamaha R6), but Chris' bike
is the only one in the paddock that has an engine starter button, and as
Chris said it, there's no advantage in sabotaging the autokill switch. Kinda
weird though because Bayliss' Ducati didn't turn off when he fell twice in
Assen (2002), but it worked when they did a postrace test. I mean what the
hell is the purpose of the autokill when it doesn't work out on the race
track but works after the race in a labatory environment??

"Paul B" wrote in message

 > Seems that the WSB organisers are determined to eliminate any interest in
 > the sport at all. Chris V was disqualified after the cutout switch that
 > stops the engine in the event the bike crashes failed to work during
 > scrutineering. Thats clearly the reason he did so well in race 2. Surely a
 > hefty fine is more appropriate in such circumstances. Are the organisers
 > afraid of another Honda comeback? For Gods sake the Honda is the only non
 > Duke thats even got a sniff in the championship and is at least creating a
 > bit of excitement, Superbikes popularity is struggling and they hope to
keep
 > the spectators happy with rulings like that, they really do have their
heads
 > right up their arses.
 >
 > Paul
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: WSB spoiler. 

"Julian Bond" wrote in message

 > Another view. This is a safety rule and IMHO safety rules should be
 > enforced rigorously. It's somewhat ironic here that Honda are often the
 > first to protest when someone else breaks the rules. They tried hard to
 > get Bayliss excluded at Silverstone two years ago for the same issue.
 > Racing is dangerous and these rules, like the passing under a yellow
 > rule, need to be enforced. It's unfortunate and not good for the
 > championship, but it is ultimately good for racing, the riders and the
 > marshals.
 >
 > Which then raises the issue of Rossi at Le Mans. They had pit staff on
 > the grid after the 30 second warning. Rossi didn't return to the pit
 > lane to get his bike started. And he didn't start from the back of the
 > grid. All required by the rule book as read out on air by Toby Moody and
 > Julian Ryder during the warm up lap. And yet I've heard nothing about
 > any complaints.
 >
 > --
 > Julian Bond Email&MSM: julian.bond at voidstar.com
<font color=purple> > Webmaster: <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.ecademy.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.ecademy.com/</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > Personal WebLog: <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.voidstar.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.voidstar.com/</font</a>>
 > M: +44 (0)77 5907 2173 T: +44 (0)192 0412 433

I totally agree with the safety aspect but feel a punishment should fit the
crime, in this case (and I'm not just saying it's ok for Honda but for any
team in a similar situation) the bike didn't benefit in any way so it didn't
have any effect on the race therefore a fine and loss of winnings or
something would surely be sufficient to deter teams from neglecting their
responsibilities but still keep the customers (us) happy.

If the motor, chassis or suspension etc had been setup outside the rules
then that's fine, the bike should be excluded.

Paul
 >> Stay informed about: WSB spoiler. 

"Mark N" a écrit dans le message de
uIGdnQ1nrZ2DhDfd4p2dnA RemoveThis @giganews.com...
 >


  > > We could say the opposite as:
  > > GP125 Honda
  > > GP250 Honda
  > > MotoGP Honda
  > > 600 WSS Honda
  > > So Ducati is the only non Honda to have win something this week-end
 >
 > But in the land of democracy:
 >
 > Superbike: Suzuki, Honda
 > Supersport: Kawasaki
 > Superstock: Yamaha
 > Formula Xtreme: Honda
 >
 > And the best racing of the weekend as well...
 >
Of course I was speaking of world championships.....
 >> Stay informed about: WSB spoiler. 

"pierre-bonneau" wrote in message





   > > > We could say the opposite as:
   > > > GP125 Honda
   > > > GP250 Honda
   > > > MotoGP Honda
   > > > 600 WSS Honda
   > > > So Ducati is the only non Honda to have win something this week-end

  > > But in the land of democracy:
  > >
  > > Superbike: Suzuki, Honda
  > > Supersport: Kawasaki
  > > Superstock: Yamaha
  > > Formula Xtreme: Honda
  > >
  > > And the best racing of the weekend as well...

 > Of course I was speaking of world championships.....

Sorry I missed that. Of course it's hard to tell when you mention classes
like GP125, where every rider but Stoner and Ui is European and 21 of the 34
riders shown in the MotoGP website are from Spain and Italy...
 >> Stay informed about: WSB spoiler. 

In my opnion, Bayliss should have been penalized for that. If it didn't
work
during the race, why did they need to test it in a controlled environment
after the race? I think watching the bike on its side and then him picking
it up and continuing on is proof enough.

--
Shane

"michael" wrote in message

 > I'm not sure about Foret's bike though (it's a Yamaha R6), but Chris' bike
 > is the only one in the paddock that has an engine starter button, and as
 > Chris said it, there's no advantage in sabotaging the autokill switch.
Kinda
 > weird though because Bayliss' Ducati didn't turn off when he fell twice in
 > Assen (2002), but it worked when they did a postrace test. I mean what the
 > hell is the purpose of the autokill when it doesn't work out on the race
 > track but works after the race in a labatory environment??
 >


  > > Seems that the WSB organisers are determined to eliminate any interest
in
  > > the sport at all. Chris V was disqualified after the cutout switch that
  > > stops the engine in the event the bike crashes failed to work during
  > > scrutineering. Thats clearly the reason he did so well in race 2. Surely
a
  > > hefty fine is more appropriate in such circumstances. Are the organisers
  > > afraid of another Honda comeback? For Gods sake the Honda is the only
non
  > > Duke thats even got a sniff in the championship and is at least creating
a
  > > bit of excitement, Superbikes popularity is struggling and they hope to
 > keep
  > > the spectators happy with rulings like that, they really do have their
 > heads
  > > right up their arses.
  > >
  > > Paul
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: WSB spoiler.