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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:40 am
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According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my VSTAR at
8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:27 am
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:53:25 GMT, "Robert Thomas"
<robob68.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> removed the duct tape and proclaimed:
>According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my VSTAR at
>8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
>
>Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
>
>cheers
>
>bob
It is very necessary. A malajusted valve that does not close properly
will burn. Besides, a well tuned engine will last longer.
Up here, for $250 CAD, I get a complete tune up, including oil and
filter, plugs, valve adjustement and carburator sync. And they check
steering, suspension, all the controls, etc. Well worth it, IMHO.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:40 am
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"Bruno" <insert DeleteThis @address.here> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:53:25 GMT, "Robert Thomas"
> <robob68 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> removed the duct tape and proclaimed:
>
> >According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my VSTAR at
> >8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
> >
> >Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
> >
> >cheers
> >
> >bob
>
> It is very necessary. A malajusted valve that does not close properly
> will burn. Besides, a well tuned engine will last longer.
>
Yabut, what is it about this engine that makes the valves need so frequent
adjustment? Seems excessive to me.
> Up here, for $250 CAD, I get a complete tune up, including oil and
> filter, plugs, valve adjustement and carburator sync. And they check
> steering, suspension, all the controls, etc. Well worth it, IMHO.
>
That's not too bad. I'm considering buying the manual and doing it myself.
cheers
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:14 pm
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:53:25 GMT, "Robert Thomas"
<robob68.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:
>According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my VSTAR at
>8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
>
>Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
>
>cheers
>
>bob
>
>
I wouldn't mess with your valves unless something is a miss.
Speaking as a R* owner I was told they don't go out of adjustment
anywhere near what the manual suggests for readjustment.
Check with Bulldog at Baron's
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.baronscustom.com/" target="_blank">http://www.baronscustom.com/</a>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:12 am
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Does this mean I should not have the first 500 mile valve adjustment?
"Snapper" <mga12 DeleteThis @qwest.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:53:25 GMT, "Robert Thomas"
> <robob68 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my VSTAR at
>>8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
>>
>>Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
>>
>>cheers
>>
>>bob
>>
>>
> I wouldn't mess with your valves unless something is a miss.
> Speaking as a R* owner I was told they don't go out of adjustment
> anywhere near what the manual suggests for readjustment.
>
> Check with Bulldog at Baron's
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.baronscustom.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.baronscustom.com/</font</a>>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:40 pm
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"Snapper" <mga12.DeleteThis@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:53:25 GMT, "Robert Thomas"
> <robob68.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my VSTAR at
> >8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
> >
> >Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
> >
> >cheers
> >
> >bob
> >
> >
> I wouldn't mess with your valves unless something is a miss.
> Speaking as a R* owner I was told they don't go out of adjustment
> anywhere near what the manual suggests for readjustment.
>
> Check with Bulldog at Baron's
>
I suspect it's an employment program and income supplement program for
dealers.
grin
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:03 pm
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:12:07 -0800, "irdoninnv" <irdoninnv.RemoveThis@cox.net>
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>Does this mean I should not have the first 500 mile valve adjustment?
>
I took my 2004 R* in for it's first (600mi) recommend checkup. Yamaha
recommends a valve clearance check every 4000mi/6 months after that.
Give me a break! Please don't take my word for it. I don't work for
Baron's nor have I ever bought anything from them. I do follow their
R* forum and I respect the knowledge of the personnel responding to R*
questions, especially bulldog1602. IIRC he mentioned, regarding the
R*, that the valve don't need checking that often. Of all the valve
jobs he has done on R* none have needed an adjustment. He really
likes the R* engine. Your question was about the V-Star 650. I can
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:40 pm
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"Robert Thomas" <robob68 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my
> VSTAR at 8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
>
> Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
>
> cheers
>
> bob
It's VERY necessary. If we tie off your wee wee, how necessary is it for
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:40 pm
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"Philip" <1chip-state1 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Robert Thomas" <robob68 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:p3Yud.9011$0r.1258@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net
> > According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my
> > VSTAR at 8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
> >
> > Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > bob
>
> It's VERY necessary. If we tie off your wee wee, how necessary is it for
> you to eventually take a piss? DUH.
>
That does not follow.
WHY do you think it's necessary? Is there something unique about motorcycle
valves?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:40 pm
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>> It's VERY necessary. If we tie off your wee wee, how necessary is it for
>> you to eventually take a piss? DUH.
>>
>That does not follow.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:40 pm
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"Robert Thomas" <robob68.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Philip" <1chip-state1.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> "Robert Thomas" <robob68.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:p3Yud.9011$0r.1258@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net
>>> According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my
>>> VSTAR at 8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
>>>
>>> Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> bob
>>
>> It's VERY necessary. If we tie off your wee wee, how necessary is
>> it for you to eventually take a piss? DUH.
>>
> That does not follow.
>
> WHY do you think it's necessary? Is there something unique about
> motorcycle valves?
>
> cheers
>
> bob
In a word, 'yes' As a generality, air cooled engines run hotter and
experience greater thermal swings (particularly in a longitudinal Vee
configuration) than liquid cooled engines. This means more frequent valve
adjustments all else being equal.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:40 am
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"Robert Thomas" <robob68 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> skrev i meddelandet
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>> "Robert Thomas" <robob68 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:p3Yud.9011$0r.1258@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net
>> > According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my
>> > VSTAR at 8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
>> >
>> > Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
>> >
>> > cheers
>> >
>> > bob
>>
>> It's VERY necessary. If we tie off your wee wee, how necessary is it for
>> you to eventually take a piss? DUH.
>>
> That does not follow.
>
> WHY do you think it's necessary? Is there something unique about
> motorcycle
> valves?
>
> cheers
>
> bob
The mc engines got alot higher rpms than a cage engine, and all that moves
rubs down, whith higher rpms it get down faster.
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"Roadrunner" <akewa.TakeThisOut@spray.se> wrote in message
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> "Robert Thomas" <robob68.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:CtGwd.1930$RH4.1813@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > "Philip" <1chip-state1.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> >>
> >>
> >> "Robert Thomas" <robob68.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:p3Yud.9011$0r.1258@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net
> >> > According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my
> >> > VSTAR at 8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
> >> >
> >> > Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
> >> >
> >> > cheers
> >> >
> >> > bob
> >>
> >> It's VERY necessary. If we tie off your wee wee, how necessary is it
for
> >> you to eventually take a piss? DUH.
> >>
> > That does not follow.
> >
> > WHY do you think it's necessary? Is there something unique about
> > motorcycle
> > valves?
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > bob
>
> The mc engines got alot higher rpms than a cage engine, and all that moves
> rubs down, whith higher rpms it get down faster.
> Roadrunner
>
I've owned 5 air cooled, high RPM, Porches. Never had a problem with valve
adjustment.
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"Robert Thomas" <robob68 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Roadrunner" <akewa RemoveThis @spray.se> wrote in message
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>> "Robert Thomas" <robob68 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> skrev i meddelandet
>> news:CtGwd.1930$RH4.1813@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> "Philip" <1chip-state1 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>>> "Robert Thomas" <robob68 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:p3Yud.9011$0r.1258@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net
>>>>> According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my
>>>>> VSTAR at 8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> bob
>>>>
>>>> It's VERY necessary. If we tie off your wee wee, how necessary
>>>> is it for you to eventually take a piss? DUH.
>>>>
>>> That does not follow.
>>>
>>> WHY do you think it's necessary? Is there something unique about
>>> motorcycle
>>> valves?
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> bob
>>
>> The mc engines got alot higher rpms than a cage engine, and all
>> that moves rubs down, whith higher rpms it get down faster.
>> Roadrunner
>>
> I've owned 5 air cooled, high RPM, Porches. Never had a problem
> with valve adjustment.
>
> cheers
>
> bob
Whatever that means (never had a problem with valve adjustment), with air
cooled motorcycle engines, valves need to be looked after while they're
stabilizing during the first 100 hrs running.
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"Robert Thomas" <robob68.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> skrev i meddelandet
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>> "Robert Thomas" <robob68.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> skrev i meddelandet
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>> > "Philip" <1chip-state1.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> >> "Robert Thomas" <robob68.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:p3Yud.9011$0r.1258@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net
>> >> > According to my owner's manual, I should adjust the valves on my
>> >> > VSTAR at 8,000 miles. I have a bit over that.
>> >> >
>> >> > Just how necessary is this? You don't have to do this on cars.
>> >> >
>> >> > cheers
>> >> >
>> >> > bob
>> >>
>> >> It's VERY necessary. If we tie off your wee wee, how necessary is it
> for
>> >> you to eventually take a piss? DUH.
>> >>
>> > That does not follow.
>> >
>> > WHY do you think it's necessary? Is there something unique about
>> > motorcycle
>> > valves?
>> >
>> > cheers
>> >
>> > bob
>>
>> The mc engines got alot higher rpms than a cage engine, and all that
>> moves
>> rubs down, whith higher rpms it get down faster.
>> Roadrunner
>>
> I've owned 5 air cooled, high RPM, Porches. Never had a problem with
> valve
> adjustment.
>
> cheers
>
> bob
Allright skip the adjustment and se whats happens.
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