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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:23 pm
Post subject: Sky BB users
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Sky have been outsourcing their email to Google (of all the wanky
places to give it to) over the past year.
This weekend just gone they completed the process and switched off
their own SMTP email servers.
Without telling me (or any other Sky customer I know).
Switching to Googles SMTP server (smtp.tools.sky.com, enable TLS, port
587) works but your email address in the from line is replaced with
your sky.com one.
Bastards.
FERITE.
I'm off to another ISP.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:37 pm
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:29 +0000, frag wrote:
> Sky have been outsourcing their email to Google (of all the wanky places
> to give it to) over the past year.
>
> This weekend just gone they completed the process and switched off their
> own SMTP email servers.
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> Without telling me (or any other Sky customer I know).
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> Switching to Googles SMTP server (smtp.tools.sky.com, enable TLS, port
> 587) works but your email address in the from line is replaced with your
> sky.com one.
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This is why I have postfix on my laptop. I've never had a problem
sending mail from various locations and ISPs. Make sure it only listens
on 127.0.0.1 and ensure that sure you have a FQDN. Job done.
> Bastards.
They are. All of them.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:44 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:27 pm
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prawn scribbled:
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:29 +0000, frag wrote:
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> > Sky have been outsourcing their email to Google (of all the wanky
> > places to give it to) over the past year.
> >
> > This weekend just gone they completed the process and switched off
> > their own SMTP email servers.
> >
> > Without telling me (or any other Sky customer I know).
> >
> > Switching to Googles SMTP server (smtp.tools.sky.com, enable TLS,
> > port 587) works but your email address in the from line is replaced
> > with your sky.com one.
> >
>
> This is why I have postfix on my laptop. I've never had a problem
> sending mail from various locations and ISPs. Make sure it only
> listens on 127.0.0.1 and ensure that sure you have a FQDN. Job done.
>
> > Bastards.
>
> They are. All of them.
> .
I've got postfix on the server.
Turned off the smart host and found out that Sky have blacklisted all
their dynamic IPs.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:28 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:32 pm
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:27:31 +0000, frag wrote:
> prawn scribbled:
>
>> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:29 +0000, frag wrote:
>>
>> > Sky have been outsourcing their email to Google (of all the wanky
>> > places to give it to) over the past year.
>> >
>> > This weekend just gone they completed the process and switched off
>> > their own SMTP email servers.
>> >
>> > Without telling me (or any other Sky customer I know).
>> >
>> > Switching to Googles SMTP server (smtp.tools.sky.com, enable TLS,
>> > port 587) works but your email address in the from line is replaced
>> > with your sky.com one.
>> >
>> >
>> This is why I have postfix on my laptop. I've never had a problem
>> sending mail from various locations and ISPs. Make sure it only
>> listens on 127.0.0.1 and ensure that sure you have a FQDN. Job done.
>>
>> > Bastards.
>>
>> They are. All of them.
>> .
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> I've got postfix on the server.
>
> Turned off the smart host and found out that Sky have blacklisted all
> their dynamic IPs.
Sheesh. Actually, I just did a test send to my gmail addy and their
server bounced it on a reverse dns lookup. Cnuts.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:09 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:09 pm
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In article , news4 DeleteThis @ukrm.co.uk
says...
> Sky have been outsourcing their email to Google (of all the wanky
> places to give it to) over the past year.
I had this from day 1, and it doesn't bother me as I never use sky's
service.
I've been using a regular gmail account to bounce SMTP out for ages, and
Gmail's version supports any domain you like in the headers. >> Stay informed about: Sky BB users |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:12 pm
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:28:21 GMT, "frag" allegedly
wrote:
> Switters scribbled:
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>> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:29 GMT, "frag" allegedly
>> wrote:
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>> > Without telling me (or any other Sky customer I know).
>>
>> "Sky broadband customers blindsided by SMTP switch-off"
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/07/sky_google_mail/
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> See that article? Thats me that is! (the Richard they mention)
>
> 15 minutes of fame!!! 
Pfft. In the age of user content, having your name and words on a website
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:14 pm
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In article ,
spam.RemoveThis@bonwick.me.uk says...
> you have your own domain, surely it comes with
> a mail server?
Doesn't have to.. I have a couple of domain names, but only bothered to
have DNS recordsand Mail forwarding set up.... I bounce the emails to
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:42 pm
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ginge secured a place in history by writing:
> I've been using a regular gmail account to bounce SMTP out for ages, and
> Gmail's version supports any domain you like in the headers.
Really? I got hit by this the other day so set up with Google's SMTP -
which replaced my domain address with my googlemail address....
So I switched to BTInternet, and that works fine..
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:49 pm
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Switters wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:28:21 GMT, "frag" allegedly
> wrote:
>
> > Switters scribbled:
> >
> >> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:29 GMT, "frag"
> allegedly >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Without telling me (or any other Sky customer I know).
> >>
> >> "Sky broadband customers blindsided by SMTP switch-off"
> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/07/sky_google_mail/
> >
> > See that article? Thats me that is! (the Richard they mention)
> >
> > 15 minutes of fame!!!
>
> Pfft. In the age of user content, having your name and words on a
> website means sweet FA.
Butbutbut its the geeks equivalent of "The Sun"! The most read IT
website. Probably.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:52 pm
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Adie wrote:
> "frag" :
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> > Sky have been outsourcing their email to Google (of all the wanky
> > places to give it to) over the past year.
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> I've never checked my sky mail, certainly never set it up.
>
> what's the real issue? you have your own domain, surely it comes with
> a mail server?
I have a mail server, but if I set it to send the emails out directly
to where they're destined to go, the email servers that receive them do
various checks, and Sky have blacklisted all their ADSL customers (like
me) IP numbers, so those checks fail, so no-one will accept any emails
directly from my server.
So, I have to use Skys own outgoing email server, which is what they've
just turned off.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:53 pm
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ginge wrote:
> In article , news4.TakeThisOut@ukrm.co.uk
> says...
> > Sky have been outsourcing their email to Google (of all the wanky
> > places to give it to) over the past year.
>
> I had this from day 1, and it doesn't bother me as I never use sky's
> service.
>
> I've been using a regular gmail account to bounce SMTP out for ages,
> and Gmail's version supports any domain you like in the headers.
Just read up about gmails smtp server and i see it changes the From:
line in any emails you send.
You can set what appears in there (the Default email account in the
settings?) but that means you can only use one From: email address
unless you go and change it frequently.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:14 pm
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In article , news4 DeleteThis @ukrm.co.uk
says...
> ginge wrote:
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> > In article , news4 DeleteThis @ukrm.co.uk
> > says...
> > > Sky have been outsourcing their email to Google (of all the wanky
> > > places to give it to) over the past year.
> >
> > I had this from day 1, and it doesn't bother me as I never use sky's
> > service.
> >
> > I've been using a regular gmail account to bounce SMTP out for ages,
> > and Gmail's version supports any domain you like in the headers.
>
> Just read up about gmails smtp server and i see it changes the From:
> line in any emails you send.
>
> You can set what appears in there (the Default email account in the
> settings?) but that means you can only use one From: email address
> unless you go and change it frequently.
Why would I want to change it frequently? I've got 2 gmail accounts, 1
for me at each domain I own. If I needed more mailboxes I'd set up more
gmail accounts, and direct to them accordingly.
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