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Ken Abrams

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:45 am
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"Puddin' Man" <puddingDOTman.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote

> Sounds good for 1/16 " or maybe 1/8 " difference in diameter.
>
> I got about 3/16 diff.
>

It is becoming fairly obvious that you need to look for a different piece of
hose.
DOH!

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:42 am
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:17:28 +0000 (UTC), "Dr Ivan D. Reid" <Ivan.Reid.RemoveThis@brunel.ac.uk>
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:30:01 -0600, Warren Weber <hiview.RemoveThis@bresnan.net>
> wrote in <n5OdncowoqhvSmrbnZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d.RemoveThis@bresnan.com>:
>
>> "Puddin' Man" <puddingDOTman.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ni8bf3pk8qmjvag8d0s6sgvk2l77l1nd0q@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:10:51 +0200, <Herman> wrote:
>
>>>>A piece of thick plastic tube....
>
>>> Aha. The clear plastic kind, that won't rub off on shoes.
>
>>> (Scratches head) Howcum I didn't think of it! Smile
>
>>> Of course, getting a diameter that'll fit/stretch just right
>>> might be a problem ...
>
>>> But I'll damned well look.
>
>> Put tubing in HOT water and then it will slip on easy.
>
> _Some_ plastic tubing swells and gets mighty slippery when soaked
>in a solvent like acetone[1], then goes back to its original shape when dried
>out again. I've used the technique for "poor man's heatshrink" in the past.
>
>[1] Well, there may be others -- I've only ever used acetone.

This is getting humoruous ...

I tried soaking overnite in acetone. The tubing broke up:
all but dissolved.

Still tinkering ...

P

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:45 am
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In article <506mf3pkfmnqkfcsj1a0amrlhff17o2upq DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
Puddin' Man <Pudding Dot Man At Gmail Dot Com> wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:17:28 +0000 (UTC), "Dr Ivan D. Reid" <Ivan.Reid DeleteThis @brunel.ac.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:30:01 -0600, Warren Weber <hiview DeleteThis @bresnan.net>
>> wrote in <n5OdncowoqhvSmrbnZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d DeleteThis @bresnan.com>:

>> _Some_ plastic tubing swells and gets mighty slippery when soaked
>>in a solvent like acetone[1], then goes back to its original shape when dried
>>out again. I've used the technique for "poor man's heatshrink" in the past.
>>
>>[1] Well, there may be others -- I've only ever used acetone.

>I tried soaking overnite in acetone. The tubing broke up:
>all but dissolved.

For clear PVC tubing, dipping it in chloroform or tetrachloromethane for somewhere
between 10 and 20 minutes works well. The trick is to get the tubing soft enough
to slide it over whatever it should be on without swelling it to the point where
it becomes more like jelly.

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:50 am
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:55:42 -0500, Puddin' Man wrote:

> I whupped a heat gun on the plastic and practised with a 3/4 " dowell.

Use a piece of tubing that is slightly too large. Build up the size of
the peg with some sort of tape - Electrical, teflon, whatever. That
should result in a snug fit that slips on easily. Teflon is good because
it requires no adhesive if you wrap it right.

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:45 pm
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Have you looked into just buying new rubber from the dealer? The rubber
stuff I've bought for my old Suz didn't seem nearly as outragous as most
other things.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:45 am
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:45:23 -0400, "Captain Midnight" <Notany.RemoveThis@twip.invalid> wrote:

>Have you looked into just buying new rubber from the dealer? The rubber
>stuff I've bought for my old Suz didn't seem nearly as outragous as most
>other things.

Only dealers are way-across-town. I called one for a special fastener:
they thought they had it. I rode down, found they couldn't even find
it on the parts screen, didn't have it or much of anything for '87
CBR600.

If they had it, it'd be black rubber. I'd likely have the same problem
sooner or later.

I'll do *something* with the clear plastic tubing ...

P

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:45 am
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Puddin' Man wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:45:23 -0400, "Captain Midnight" <Notany.RemoveThis@twip.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>Have you looked into just buying new rubber from the dealer? The rubber
>>stuff I've bought for my old Suz didn't seem nearly as outragous as most
>>other things.
>
>
> Only dealers are way-across-town. I called one for a special fastener:
> they thought they had it. I rode down, found they couldn't even find
> it on the parts screen, didn't have it or much of anything for '87
> CBR600.

ALWAYS look up part numbers online before going to the dealer. Then
phone them, describe the part, but don't give them the number you
looked up. Make them look it up on their system. Then ask them to
walk back and check the shelves to see if it is in stock.

This way you will get the updated part if your online part has been
superseded, otherwise you get confirmation you had the right part
number, and you get them to physically check stock rather than rely
on the computer's idea of what's in stock.

Of course this is no help if they have the physically wrong part in
stock but with the correct part number on the package, it has happened
to me.

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:38 pm
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:34:03 -0500, Mark Olson <olsonm.DeleteThis@tiny.invalid> wrote:

>Puddin' Man wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:45:23 -0400, "Captain Midnight" <Notany.DeleteThis@twip.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Have you looked into just buying new rubber from the dealer? The rubber
>>>stuff I've bought for my old Suz didn't seem nearly as outragous as most
>>>other things.
>>
>>
>> Only dealers are way-across-town. I called one for a special fastener:
>> they thought they had it. I rode down, found they couldn't even find
>> it on the parts screen, didn't have it or much of anything for '87
>> CBR600.
>
>ALWAYS look up part numbers online before going to the dealer.

Didn't know they were available for an '87. Thanks.

I found:

http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit.com/parts/Honda/CBR600Hurricane/1987/172547

and I *still* can't see the funny cable guide that goes with one of
the fasteners (probably 14: NUT, CLIP (6MM) 108074-001). I think
maybe Honda left it out of the parts images.

I needed to take a peek at their operation anyway. Hadn't been
down there in years. Wasn't sure they were still 100% in the
cycle business. Won't return unless I can confirm per (below).

>Then
>phone them, describe the part, but don't give them the number you
>looked up. Make them look it up on their system. Then ask them to
>walk back and check the shelves to see if it is in stock.
>
>This way you will get the updated part if your online part has been
>superseded, otherwise you get confirmation you had the right part
>number, and you get them to physically check stock rather than rely
>on the computer's idea of what's in stock.

Yeah, I've done this for auto parts ...

>Of course this is no help if they have the physically wrong part in
>stock but with the correct part number on the package, it has happened
>to me.

Ouch! You had reason to holler.

Cheers,
Puddin'

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:45 pm
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Mark Olson <olsonm.RemoveThis@tiny.invalid> writes
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>ALWAYS look up part numbers online before going to the dealer. Then
>phone them, describe the part, but don't give them the number you
>looked up. Make them look it up on their system. Then ask them to
>walk back and check the shelves to see if it is in stock.
>
You've got a tolerant dealer, that's the only conclusion I can reach.

The only <Krusty> $tealer$hip </Krusty> round these parts will hang up
on you around the point you ask them to look it up. That's if they
bother to answer the phone at all.
If you actually go in, queue & get the bloke who can actually do his job
then they're wonderful, any other circumstances you're better doing mail
order[1].
Every time I see the boss (the only one who can actually do his job) he
asks why they never see me in the shop anymore.

Bob

[1] cheaper &, unless it's in stock and they can find it, quicker. Of
course, they don't check if it's in stock until after asking for
payment.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:45 pm
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Bob Scott wrote:
> Mark Olson <olsonm DeleteThis @tiny.invalid> writes
>> ALWAYS look up part numbers online before going to the dealer. Then
>> phone them, describe the part, but don't give them the number you
>> looked up. Make them look it up on their system. Then ask them to
>> walk back and check the shelves to see if it is in stock.
>>
> You've got a tolerant dealer, that's the only conclusion I can reach.

Tolerant or not, I am not going to ride 20+ miles for a part if
they don't have it in stock. I've been burned too many times
by poor inventory control to believe what their computer system
says.

> The only <Krusty> $tealer$hip </Krusty> round these parts will hang up
> on you around the point you ask them to look it up. That's if they
> bother to answer the phone at all.

That's why I sometimes go 30 miles away to patronize a dealer who
wants my business. The local Kawasaki dealer is completely useless.
When I'm not in a hurry I usually shop online or by phone.


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