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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:43 pm
Post subject: Routine maintenance
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I hate working on the F4i.
Today I changed out the Water Wetter for anti freeze and changed the oil and
filter. It only took 4 hours. Sheeesh.
The simplest items become the biggest hassle. In order to refill the
radiator you need to remove the right side air intake. There is a big
rubber intake hose that presses into the air box. Easy to remove a real
pain to re-install.
You are suppose to let the bike idle in order to bleed the air out of the
cooling system. So I start the bike and go inside to watch a few minutes of
football. When I come out the radiator is blubbling over and dumping anti
freeze all over the driveway and front tire. Sheesh. Oh yeah, finding the
second coolant drain bolt is an Easter egg hunt. Even with the picture in
the manual as a reference.
I lost one washer, heaven knows where it wound it in the engine compartment.
Sheesh.
Broke two cheap plastice fairing fasteners.
At least the work is done and the bike is ready for winter.
I also had it inspected Saturday. The front brake pads are marginal.
$41 for oil, filter and anti freeze.
Where do these extra fairing fasteners go?
I also noticed a large amount of brownish sludge in the coolant when I
drained it. It guess Water Wetter doesn't have very good anti corrosion
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:08 pm
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>I hate working on the F4i.
Trailer it to Larry XLax's place. Throw some money at him, he'll provide
beer and a place to sit and watch. Bet you'll learn alot.
>
> Today I changed out the Water Wetter for anti freeze and changed the oil
> and filter. It only took 4 hours. Sheeesh.
>
I pulled all 4 plugs on the 1100, cleaned them, put them back in, fired it
up and didn't get the full results I expected. Took 20 minutes though, and I
was working slow.
> The simplest items become the biggest hassle. In order to refill the
> radiator you need to remove the right side air intake. There is a big
> rubber intake hose that presses into the air box. Easy to remove a real
> pain to re-install.
>
Get a standard/nakkid sportbike already.
> At least the work is done and the bike is ready for winter.
All that work just to PARK it? I used to do stuff like that, then I figured
out if you just RIDE the thing occasionally during the winter, all of its
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:30 pm
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 17:43:15 -0600, "BryanUT"
wrote:
>I hate working on the F4i.
>
>Today I changed out the Water Wetter for anti freeze and changed the oil and
>filter. It only took 4 hours. Sheeesh.
>
>The simplest items become the biggest hassle. In order to refill the
>radiator you need to remove the right side air intake. There is a big
>rubber intake hose that presses into the air box. Easy to remove a real
>pain to re-install.
>
>You are suppose to let the bike idle in order to bleed the air out of the
>cooling system. So I start the bike and go inside to watch a few minutes of
>football. When I come out the radiator is blubbling over and dumping anti
>freeze all over the driveway and front tire. Sheesh. Oh yeah, finding the
>second coolant drain bolt is an Easter egg hunt. Even with the picture in
>the manual as a reference.
>
>I lost one washer, heaven knows where it wound it in the engine compartment.
>Sheesh.
>
>Broke two cheap plastice fairing fasteners.
>
>At least the work is done and the bike is ready for winter.
>
>I also had it inspected Saturday. The front brake pads are marginal.
>
>$41 for oil, filter and anti freeze.
>
>Where do these extra fairing fasteners go?
>
>I also noticed a large amount of brownish sludge in the coolant when I
>drained it. It guess Water Wetter doesn't have very good anti corrosion
>properties.
>
And you want a Ducati. Thems worse. I can change my oil and filter in
five minutes. Filter is on the front of the motor unobstructed facing
out. I put a filter socket on it and it is a done deal. Takes 20
seconds to remove and install. The Drain plug is mounted on the same
side as the filter off the swing arm. I just pull a plastic plug out
of the rubber hose and I can drain my oil right into a one gallion jug
as it is sitting on the ground unatteneded. I do this standing up as
well. I take off the seat which takes about ten seconds and there is
the oil tank.. The time consuming part of my oil change is waiting for
it to drain. Did i mention i could replace my battery in five
minutes?:-)Takes about five minutes to replace the plugs and wires
too. Brake pads took 20 minutes to replace although i think i could do
it faster now. Rumor has it I could replace them without removing the
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:14 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:06 am
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BryanUT wrote:
> I hate working on the F4i.
>
> Today I changed out the Water Wetter for anti freeze and changed the oil and
> filter. It only took 4 hours. Sheeesh.
>
> The simplest items become the biggest hassle. In order to refill the
> radiator you need to remove the right side air intake. There is a big
> rubber intake hose that presses into the air box. Easy to remove a real
> pain to re-install.
>
> You are suppose to let the bike idle in order to bleed the air out of the
> cooling system. So I start the bike and go inside to watch a few minutes of
> football. When I come out the radiator is blubbling over and dumping anti
> freeze all over the driveway and front tire. Sheesh. Oh yeah, finding the
> second coolant drain bolt is an Easter egg hunt. Even with the picture in
> the manual as a reference.
>
> I lost one washer, heaven knows where it wound it in the engine compartment.
> Sheesh.
>
> Broke two cheap plastice fairing fasteners.
>
> At least the work is done and the bike is ready for winter.
>
> I also had it inspected Saturday. The front brake pads are marginal.
>
> $41 for oil, filter and anti freeze.
>
> Where do these extra fairing fasteners go?
>
> I also noticed a large amount of brownish sludge in the coolant when I
> drained it. It guess Water Wetter doesn't have very good anti corrosion
> properties.
>
>
Routine maintenance? You mean change the oil and plugs, right? 
Takes me about 20-30 minutes. The plugs take a little longer than my old
tube frame bike, but it's still easy. >> Stay informed about: Routine maintenance |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:15 am
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"Michael Fell" wrote in message
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 17:43:15 -0600, "BryanUT"
> wrote:
>
>>I hate working on the F4i.
>>
>>Today I changed out the Water Wetter for anti freeze and changed the oil
>>and
>>filter. It only took 4 hours. Sheeesh.
>>
>>The simplest items become the biggest hassle. In order to refill the
>>radiator you need to remove the right side air intake. There is a big
>>rubber intake hose that presses into the air box. Easy to remove a real
>>pain to re-install.
>>
>>You are suppose to let the bike idle in order to bleed the air out of the
>>cooling system. So I start the bike and go inside to watch a few minutes
>>of
>>football. When I come out the radiator is blubbling over and dumping anti
>>freeze all over the driveway and front tire. Sheesh. Oh yeah, finding
>>the
>>second coolant drain bolt is an Easter egg hunt. Even with the picture in
>>the manual as a reference.
>>
>>I lost one washer, heaven knows where it wound it in the engine
>>compartment.
>>Sheesh.
>>
>>Broke two cheap plastice fairing fasteners.
>>
>>At least the work is done and the bike is ready for winter.
>>
>>I also had it inspected Saturday. The front brake pads are marginal.
>>
>>$41 for oil, filter and anti freeze.
>>
>>Where do these extra fairing fasteners go?
>>
>>I also noticed a large amount of brownish sludge in the coolant when I
>>drained it. It guess Water Wetter doesn't have very good anti corrosion
>>properties.
>>
>
>
> And you want a Ducati. Thems worse. I can change my oil and filter in
> five minutes. Filter is on the front of the motor unobstructed facing
> out. I put a filter socket on it and it is a done deal. Takes 20
> seconds to remove and install. The Drain plug is mounted on the same
> side as the filter off the swing arm. I just pull a plastic plug out
> of the rubber hose and I can drain my oil right into a one gallion jug
> as it is sitting on the ground unatteneded. I do this standing up as
> well. I take off the seat which takes about ten seconds and there is
> the oil tank.. The time consuming part of my oil change is waiting for
> it to drain. Did i mention i could replace my battery in five
> minutes?:-)Takes about five minutes to replace the plugs and wires
> too.
That's just because all the parts are already shaken loose for ya.
Brake pads took 20 minutes to replace although i think i could do
> it faster now. Rumor has it I could replace them without removing the
> caliper.
Early GSX-Rs had two pins with clips holding the pads in place, no need to
pull the calipers. Does your bike have something like that? >> Stay informed about: Routine maintenance |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:15 am
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> "Michael Fell" wrote in message
>
>> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 17:43:15 -0600, "BryanUT"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I hate working on the F4i.
>>>
>>> Today I changed out the Water Wetter for anti freeze and changed the oil
>>> and
>>> filter. It only took 4 hours. Sheeesh.
>>>
>>> The simplest items become the biggest hassle. In order to refill the
>>> radiator you need to remove the right side air intake. There is a big
>>> rubber intake hose that presses into the air box. Easy to remove a real
>>> pain to re-install.
>>>
>>> You are suppose to let the bike idle in order to bleed the air out of the
>>> cooling system. So I start the bike and go inside to watch a few minutes
>>> of
>>> football. When I come out the radiator is blubbling over and dumping anti
>>> freeze all over the driveway and front tire. Sheesh. Oh yeah, finding
>>> the
>>> second coolant drain bolt is an Easter egg hunt. Even with the picture in
>>> the manual as a reference.
>>>
>>> I lost one washer, heaven knows where it wound it in the engine
>>> compartment.
>>> Sheesh.
>>>
>>> Broke two cheap plastice fairing fasteners.
>>>
>>> At least the work is done and the bike is ready for winter.
>>>
>>> I also had it inspected Saturday. The front brake pads are marginal.
>>>
>>> $41 for oil, filter and anti freeze.
>>>
>>> Where do these extra fairing fasteners go?
>>>
>>> I also noticed a large amount of brownish sludge in the coolant when I
>>> drained it. It guess Water Wetter doesn't have very good anti corrosion
>>> properties.
>>>
>>
>> And you want a Ducati. Thems worse. I can change my oil and filter in
>> five minutes. Filter is on the front of the motor unobstructed facing
>> out. I put a filter socket on it and it is a done deal. Takes 20
>> seconds to remove and install. The Drain plug is mounted on the same
>> side as the filter off the swing arm. I just pull a plastic plug out
>> of the rubber hose and I can drain my oil right into a one gallion jug
>> as it is sitting on the ground unatteneded. I do this standing up as
>> well. I take off the seat which takes about ten seconds and there is
>> the oil tank.. The time consuming part of my oil change is waiting for
>> it to drain. Did i mention i could replace my battery in five
>> minutes?:-)Takes about five minutes to replace the plugs and wires
>> too.
> That's just because all the parts are already shaken loose for ya.
>
> Brake pads took 20 minutes to replace although i think i could do
>> it faster now. Rumor has it I could replace them without removing the
>> caliper.
> Early GSX-Rs had two pins with clips holding the pads in place, no need to
> pull the calipers. Does your bike have something like that?
>
>
Yup. With the tube frame Buells, Just unscrew the set screws, then
unscrew the 2 pins, pull the spring clip, and pull out the pads. >> Stay informed about: Routine maintenance |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:35 am
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"BryanUT" wrote in message
>I hate working on the F4i.
>
> Today I changed out the Water Wetter for anti freeze and changed the oil
> and filter. It only took 4 hours. Sheeesh.
>
> The simplest items become the biggest hassle. In order to refill the
> radiator you need to remove the right side air intake. There is a big
> rubber intake hose that presses into the air box. Easy to remove a real
> pain to re-install.
>
> You are suppose to let the bike idle in order to bleed the air out of the
> cooling system. So I start the bike and go inside to watch a few minutes
> of football. When I come out the radiator is blubbling over and dumping
> anti freeze all over the driveway and front tire. Sheesh. Oh yeah,
> finding the second coolant drain bolt is an Easter egg hunt. Even with
> the picture in the manual as a reference.
>
> I lost one washer, heaven knows where it wound it in the engine
> compartment. Sheesh.
>
> Broke two cheap plastice fairing fasteners.
>
> At least the work is done and the bike is ready for winter.
>
> I also had it inspected Saturday. The front brake pads are marginal.
>
> $41 for oil, filter and anti freeze.
>
> Where do these extra fairing fasteners go?
>
> I also noticed a large amount of brownish sludge in the coolant when I
> drained it. It guess Water Wetter doesn't have very good anti corrosion
> properties.
>
Maybe maintenance isn't your cup of tea.
I sure hope you charged that customer by the book and not the actual time it
took.
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Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:40 am
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"Michael Fell" wrote in message
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 17:43:15 -0600, "BryanUT"
> wrote:
>
>>I hate working on the F4i.
>>
>>Today I changed out the Water Wetter for anti freeze and changed the oil
>>and
>>filter. It only took 4 hours. Sheeesh.
>>
>>The simplest items become the biggest hassle. In order to refill the
>>radiator you need to remove the right side air intake. There is a big
>>rubber intake hose that presses into the air box. Easy to remove a real
>>pain to re-install.
>>
>>You are suppose to let the bike idle in order to bleed the air out of the
>>cooling system. So I start the bike and go inside to watch a few minutes
>>of
>>football. When I come out the radiator is blubbling over and dumping anti
>>freeze all over the driveway and front tire. Sheesh. Oh yeah, finding
>>the
>>second coolant drain bolt is an Easter egg hunt. Even with the picture in
>>the manual as a reference.
>>
>>I lost one washer, heaven knows where it wound it in the engine
>>compartment.
>>Sheesh.
>>
>>Broke two cheap plastice fairing fasteners.
>>
>>At least the work is done and the bike is ready for winter.
>>
>>I also had it inspected Saturday. The front brake pads are marginal.
>>
>>$41 for oil, filter and anti freeze.
>>
>>Where do these extra fairing fasteners go?
>>
>>I also noticed a large amount of brownish sludge in the coolant when I
>>drained it. It guess Water Wetter doesn't have very good anti corrosion
>>properties.
>>
>
>
> And you want a Ducati. Thems worse. I can change my oil and filter in
> five minutes. Filter is on the front of the motor unobstructed facing
> out. I put a filter socket on it and it is a done deal. Takes 20
> seconds to remove and install. The Drain plug is mounted on the same
> side as the filter off the swing arm. I just pull a plastic plug out
> of the rubber hose and I can drain my oil right into a one gallion jug
> as it is sitting on the ground unatteneded. I do this standing up as
> well. I take off the seat which takes about ten seconds and there is
> the oil tank.. The time consuming part of my oil change is waiting for
> it to drain. Did i mention i could replace my battery in five
> minutes?:-)Takes about five minutes to replace the plugs and wires
> too. Brake pads took 20 minutes to replace although i think i could do
> it faster now. Rumor has it I could replace them without removing the
> caliper.
I don't think I'd try to replace pads without removing the caliper.
How do you run the bolt(s) through the pad? What about the little cotter
pins? How do you open the pads in the caliper?
It would only save you 4 bolts worth of time, it doesn't seem worth it.
--
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:23 pm
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BryanUT wrote:
> I hate working on the F4i.
>
If you hate it, don't do it....simple. just pay the $$ and get someone
else to do it.
I enjoy tinkering with the bikes.....this weekend was new chain & front
sprocket as well as fit the reconditioned rear shock. It was a bit of a
mission hanging the bike from the roof with tie downs, but the Aprilia
looked good in bondage.
Beer helps....... >> Stay informed about: Routine maintenance |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:23 pm
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"BrianNZ" wrote in message
> BryanUT wrote:
>> I hate working on the F4i.
>>
>
> If you hate it, don't do it....simple. just pay the $$ and get someone
> else to do it.
>
> I enjoy tinkering with the bikes.....this weekend was new chain & front
> sprocket as well as fit the reconditioned rear shock. It was a bit of a
> mission hanging the bike from the roof with tie downs, but the Aprilia
> looked good in bondage.
>
> Beer helps.......
Yes it does.
Have you tried jackstands and a pole through the swingarm pivot? That's
what I've been doing lately.
Xlax had my bike up on jackstands within seconds of arrival at the busy
little shop, and he did that without the pole through the swingarm pivot.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:10 pm
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"Paul Elliot" wrote in message
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> Hope you don't have a blown headgasket. =
>
Hmmm,
Honey, my bike has a blown head gasket. It will be expensive to fix, more
than the bike is worth. I think I'm better off getting that Ducati instead
of throwing good money after bad.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:39 pm
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BryanUT wrote:
> I hate working on the F4i.
>
> Today I changed out the Water Wetter for anti freeze and changed the oil and
> filter. It only took 4 hours. Sheeesh.
>
> The simplest items become the biggest hassle. In order to refill the
> radiator you need to remove the right side air intake. There is a big
> rubber intake hose that presses into the air box. Easy to remove a real
> pain to re-install.
>
> You are suppose to let the bike idle in order to bleed the air out of the
> cooling system. So I start the bike and go inside to watch a few minutes of
> football. When I come out the radiator is blubbling over and dumping anti
> freeze all over the driveway and front tire. Sheesh. Oh yeah, finding the
> second coolant drain bolt is an Easter egg hunt. Even with the picture in
> the manual as a reference.
>
> I lost one washer, heaven knows where it wound it in the engine compartment.
> Sheesh.
>
> Broke two cheap plastice fairing fasteners.
>
> At least the work is done and the bike is ready for winter.
>
> I also had it inspected Saturday. The front brake pads are marginal.
>
> $41 for oil, filter and anti freeze.
>
> Where do these extra fairing fasteners go?
>
> I also noticed a large amount of brownish sludge in the coolant when I
> drained it. It guess Water Wetter doesn't have very good anti corrosion
> properties.
>
>
Hope you don't have a blown headgasket. =
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German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.
Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:22 am
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BryanUT wrote:
> "Paul Elliot" wrote in message
>
>
>> Hope you don't have a blown headgasket. =
>>
>
> Hmmm,
>
> Honey, my bike has a blown head gasket. It will be expensive to fix, more
> than the bike is worth. I think I'm better off getting that Ducati instead
> of throwing good money after bad.
>
> Yeah, that'll work.
>
>
See, there ya go!
No charge for my services.
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German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.
Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:23 pm
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BryanUT wrote:
> "Paul Elliot" wrote in message
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>
>
>>Hope you don't have a blown headgasket. =
>>
>
>
> Hmmm,
>
> Honey, my bike has a blown head gasket. It will be expensive to fix, more
> than the bike is worth. I think I'm better off getting that Ducati instead
> of throwing good money after bad.
>
> Yeah, that'll work.
>
>
That's your solution for your Honda maintainence woes? Buy a Ducati!?
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