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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:41 am
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I'm a bike newb and a mechanical idiot. That bieng said let me proceed
to the situation and the question for all the bike guru's out there.
I inherited a bike from a friend (actually I bought it off him for 1
dollar). 1982 Suzuki GS650E. He wrecked it and this is my new project
bike. The engine, transmission is good and the carb is solid as well
after he wrecked it. However it sat exposed to the elements for 2 years
and now I am picking up the pieces ... litterally.
Now that the ice has melted a bit, I took the time to get a tarp and
take a look at the beast yesterday. The seat was in sorry shape so I am
getthing that redone (well I stripped the ruined vinyal and foam off and
sanded everything down to the bare metal and reprimed it it today). Also
found a good junkyard to get parts today and the actual MANUAL to get on
this myself.
Off the top of my head:
Seat: getting redone...
Rear tire: Some serious dry rot going on there...
Gauge assembly (speedometer, tach, ignition, etc) in pieces. I have the
fuel gauge on my desk as an orniment. Raiding the junkyard....
Headlight and turn signal assembly: Not totally done but damn near.
Raiding the junkyard.
Gas Tank: Got some serious dents in this (debating to look for a tank
off one from the junk yard, but not sure as yet).
Before I even THINK about turning this bike over what should I watch for
(apart from draining all the fluids) and what would be some advice to
get started....
Yea I am a newb at this.
Adric Sponge
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:41 am
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Check Ebay for parts, have fun.
Noob
"Adric Sponge" <madrabbit DeleteThis @cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5HyZb.3605$6t5.2748@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm a bike newb and a mechanical idiot. That bieng said let me proceed
> to the situation and the question for all the bike guru's out there.
>
> I inherited a bike from a friend (actually I bought it off him for 1
> dollar). 1982 Suzuki GS650E. He wrecked it and this is my new project
> bike. The engine, transmission is good and the carb is solid as well
> after he wrecked it. However it sat exposed to the elements for 2 years
> and now I am picking up the pieces ... litterally.
>
> Now that the ice has melted a bit, I took the time to get a tarp and
> take a look at the beast yesterday. The seat was in sorry shape so I am
> getthing that redone (well I stripped the ruined vinyal and foam off and
> sanded everything down to the bare metal and reprimed it it today). Also
> found a good junkyard to get parts today and the actual MANUAL to get on
> this myself.
>
> Off the top of my head:
> Seat: getting redone...
>
> Rear tire: Some serious dry rot going on there...
>
> Gauge assembly (speedometer, tach, ignition, etc) in pieces. I have the
> fuel gauge on my desk as an orniment. Raiding the junkyard....
>
> Headlight and turn signal assembly: Not totally done but damn near.
> Raiding the junkyard.
>
> Gas Tank: Got some serious dents in this (debating to look for a tank
> off one from the junk yard, but not sure as yet).
>
> Before I even THINK about turning this bike over what should I watch for
> (apart from draining all the fluids) and what would be some advice to
> get started....
>
> Yea I am a newb at this.
>
> Adric Sponge
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:46 am
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:56 am
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before you spend a lot of dough, check out
:http://adcache.cycletrader.com/5/3/2/58230232.htm
"DESCRIPTION
1982 SUZUKI GS 650, This is a 1982 Suzuki GS 650 with only(would you
beleive?)6883 Miles on it. It also has all the accessories on it, including
Esprit Fairing, Shoei saddle bags and trunk,Back rest that will adjust for
rider to use or passenger use. A really great older Suzuki with four
cylinder smothness and shaft drive quitness."
I'm not affiliated with the seller in any way, but if you can buy a low
mileage bike for $1595 from a dealer, you could probably find one for much
less from a private party. Even if you could find parts, you're gonna have
$1500 invested in that wreck in no time.
"Adric Sponge" <madrabbit.DeleteThis@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5HyZb.3605$6t5.2748@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm a bike newb and a mechanical idiot. That bieng said let me proceed
> to the situation and the question for all the bike guru's out there.
>
> I inherited a bike from a friend (actually I bought it off him for 1
> dollar). 1982 Suzuki GS650E. He wrecked it and this is my new project
> bike. The engine, transmission is good and the carb is solid as well
> after he wrecked it. However it sat exposed to the elements for 2 years
> and now I am picking up the pieces ... litterally.
>
> Now that the ice has melted a bit, I took the time to get a tarp and
> take a look at the beast yesterday. The seat was in sorry shape so I am
> getthing that redone (well I stripped the ruined vinyal and foam off and
> sanded everything down to the bare metal and reprimed it it today). Also
> found a good junkyard to get parts today and the actual MANUAL to get on
> this myself.
>
> Off the top of my head:
> Seat: getting redone...
>
> Rear tire: Some serious dry rot going on there...
>
> Gauge assembly (speedometer, tach, ignition, etc) in pieces. I have the
> fuel gauge on my desk as an orniment. Raiding the junkyard....
>
> Headlight and turn signal assembly: Not totally done but damn near.
> Raiding the junkyard.
>
> Gas Tank: Got some serious dents in this (debating to look for a tank
> off one from the junk yard, but not sure as yet).
>
> Before I even THINK about turning this bike over what should I watch for
> (apart from draining all the fluids) and what would be some advice to
> get started....
>
> Yea I am a newb at this.
>
> Adric Sponge
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:00 am
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In article <JNzZb.232438$U%5.1478830@attbi_s03>,
"LJ" <laremoDELETE DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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> "Adric Sponge" <madrabbit DeleteThis @cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:5HyZb.3605$6t5.2748@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > I'm a bike newb and a mechanical idiot. That bieng said let me proceed
> > to the situation and the question for all the bike guru's out there.
> >
> > I inherited a bike from a friend (actually I bought it off him for 1
> > dollar). 1982 Suzuki GS650E. He wrecked it and this is my new project
> > bike.
What are your goals? If you just want a project, then this is a good one
(though there might be "better" ones). You will spend much time, sweat,
and money getting this bike back on the road. It would be quite
satisfying to do, if you did it right.
If you want inexpensive transportation and think that you will save
money fixing it yourself, then just buy a good condition used bike. It
will be cheaper and less hassle. I've seen Suzuki SV 650's for under $3k
sometimes. Assuming that you'll spend $1500 on this one, the extra $1500
buys you a MUCH better frame, improved engine, suspension, electrics
(bikes from the early '80's were not great electrically), and better
reliability.
If you hate to see something like this go to waste, then maybe you
should salvage parts off of it and sell them. The GS bikes were popular,
and there are a surprising number of them out there. You could gain
experience wrenching (taking stuff off without breaking it, cleaning it
up, checking condition) without actually having to fix it, and take any
profit and apply it towards a nicer bike.
[snippage]
>
> I'm not affiliated with the seller in any way, but if you can buy a low
> mileage bike for $1595 from a dealer, you could probably find one for much
> less from a private party. Even if you could find parts, you're gonna have
> $1500 invested in that wreck in no time.
He's right. I bought an '82 GS 650 for $1 once: I had $1200 in it easily
(though a big chunk of that was carb work that I would now do myself)
when I sold it...for $500. I count myself lucky: I learned a lot, got to
ride it quite a bit, and got rid of it before it fell apart.
Another issue with something like this is reliability. One of the
reasons that I sold the bike was that I was tired of worrying about
whether the thing was going to do something weird while I was out (had
the clutch cable come off once, that was exciting).
If you do go on with it, there's lots of GS resources out there, and
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:42 am
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Yeah, those guys are right. Take shit apart, see what makes it go, maybe
even see if you can get it running without spending too much on it. Take
the carbs apart, though you may wish to check into the cost of as carb
gasket kit before you do. You can drop a quick $100 just on miscelanious
small pieces. When you're all done, throw it in a truck and haul it off to
the boneyard.
"John Johnson" <null DeleteThis @invalid.com> wrote in message
news:null-AD0DEE.23030720022004@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <JNzZb.232438$U%5.1478830@attbi_s03>,
> "LJ" <laremoDELETE DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >
> > "Adric Sponge" <madrabbit DeleteThis @cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:5HyZb.3605$6t5.2748@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > I'm a bike newb and a mechanical idiot. That bieng said let me proceed
> > > to the situation and the question for all the bike guru's out there.
> > >
> > > I inherited a bike from a friend (actually I bought it off him for 1
> > > dollar). 1982 Suzuki GS650E. He wrecked it and this is my new project
> > > bike.
>
> What are your goals? If you just want a project, then this is a good one
> (though there might be "better" ones). You will spend much time, sweat,
> and money getting this bike back on the road. It would be quite
> satisfying to do, if you did it right.
>
> If you want inexpensive transportation and think that you will save
> money fixing it yourself, then just buy a good condition used bike. It
> will be cheaper and less hassle. I've seen Suzuki SV 650's for under $3k
> sometimes. Assuming that you'll spend $1500 on this one, the extra $1500
> buys you a MUCH better frame, improved engine, suspension, electrics
> (bikes from the early '80's were not great electrically), and better
> reliability.
>
> If you hate to see something like this go to waste, then maybe you
> should salvage parts off of it and sell them. The GS bikes were popular,
> and there are a surprising number of them out there. You could gain
> experience wrenching (taking stuff off without breaking it, cleaning it
> up, checking condition) without actually having to fix it, and take any
> profit and apply it towards a nicer bike.
>
> [snippage]
> >
> > I'm not affiliated with the seller in any way, but if you can buy a low
> > mileage bike for $1595 from a dealer, you could probably find one for
much
> > less from a private party. Even if you could find parts, you're gonna
have
> > $1500 invested in that wreck in no time.
>
> He's right. I bought an '82 GS 650 for $1 once: I had $1200 in it easily
> (though a big chunk of that was carb work that I would now do myself)
> when I sold it...for $500. I count myself lucky: I learned a lot, got to
> ride it quite a bit, and got rid of it before it fell apart.
>
> Another issue with something like this is reliability. One of the
> reasons that I sold the bike was that I was tired of worrying about
> whether the thing was going to do something weird while I was out (had
> the clutch cable come off once, that was exciting).
>
> If you do go on with it, there's lots of GS resources out there, and
> we'll help if we can. Either way, good luck.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Quick Questions: |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:19 am
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:41:21 GMT, Adric Sponge
<madrabbit.RemoveThis@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>Before I even THINK about turning this bike over what should I watch for
> (apart from draining all the fluids) and what would be some advice to
>get started....
Do you really *really* want to do this? I'm steadily restoring my RD
that is already a road-worthy, running bike and I've still spent much,
much more on it than I could ever hope to get back in sale. Not that I
intend to sell it. Your Suz has been weathering for two years. Are you
sure *anything* is good anymore? At the very least, expect to clean
carbs and deal with a rusted gas tank.
I would seriously reconsider this venture if all you are looking for
is a cheap runner... it won't be.
If this bike simply intrigues you... man, go for it. Start googling.
You will learn a great deal about what makes a motorcycle go.
Just be prepared to go out an buy another bike to ride whilst the
resurrection commences.
Other advice: at least lurk UKRMC too. You just never know what tidbit
you'll pick up there.
Best of luck,
<shudder>
--
John
Apple Valley, MN
'02 FZ1
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Adric Sponge <madrabbit.RemoveThis@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message news:<5HyZb.3605$6t5.2748@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...
> I'm a bike newb and a mechanical idiot. That bieng said let me proceed
> to the situation and the question for all the bike guru's out there.
>
> I inherited a bike from a friend (actually I bought it off him for 1
> dollar). 1982 Suzuki GS650E. He wrecked it and this is my new project
> bike. The engine, transmission is good and the carb is solid as well
> after he wrecked it. However it sat exposed to the elements for 2 years
> and now I am picking up the pieces ... litterally.
>
> Now that the ice has melted a bit, I took the time to get a tarp and
> take a look at the beast yesterday. The seat was in sorry shape so I am
> getthing that redone (well I stripped the ruined vinyal and foam off and
> sanded everything down to the bare metal and reprimed it it today). Also
> found a good junkyard to get parts today and the actual MANUAL to get on
> this myself.
>
> Off the top of my head:
> Seat: getting redone...
>
> Rear tire: Some serious dry rot going on there...
>
> Gauge assembly (speedometer, tach, ignition, etc) in pieces. I have the
> fuel gauge on my desk as an orniment. Raiding the junkyard....
>
> Headlight and turn signal assembly: Not totally done but damn near.
> Raiding the junkyard.
>
> Gas Tank: Got some serious dents in this (debating to look for a tank
> off one from the junk yard, but not sure as yet).
>
> Before I even THINK about turning this bike over what should I watch for
> (apart from draining all the fluids) and what would be some advice to
> get started....
>
> Yea I am a newb at this.
>
> Adric Sponge
>
> --
Hate to be a wet blanket but you don't mention the most important
factors in considering a 'salvage` project from a crashed bike:
a. IS THE FRAME STILL SRAIGHT?
b. IS THE FORK STILL TRUE?
A bike with a tweaked fork or bent frame, even small faults not
readily visible, can produce squirrely handling and be unsafe to ride,
even for an experienced rider. For a newbie, it can be an invitation
to the orthopedic ward.
Have the frame and forks checked by someone who knows the buisiness,
otherwise you might be spending time and effort to create a 'sucker
killer`.
Pragmatist
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Actually. I have been fixing it up anyways. Yes I had the Forks checked
out. And yea the frame is still striaght. I had a friend that works on
bikes for a living check it out.
What's been done so far:
Headlight Assembly: Replaced.
Seat: Reapolhstered and looks pretty good.
Handlebars: Replaced.
Tank: Replaced from a 1981 GS650.
Gauges: Replaced from the same 1981 GS650. The web that holds the
assembly has a notch that interferes with the speedometer from sitting
correctly. I"ll be filing that down this weekend and fixing that.
NEED Side Panels (mine are pretty beaten up), Battery, Plugs, Mirrors
and some minor tune ups.
Still have lots of minor work and changing fluids and cleaning to do but
was going to do this on the weekend. The carbs were completely cleaned
and redone a week before it was wrecked. Unforutinately it sat for 2
years out in the open before I got it. So hopefully that will not be a
problem. Only way to know is to get in there and take a look. I want to
take a look to see how it runs before I mess with the carbs.
The only minor problem I have found is that the tank is slightly smaller
than the orginal and the seat has new foam and is slightly smaller as
well. The result is that there is a 2" gap between the tank and the
seat. Personally I am not worried about it and kinda like the look. The
new tank and seat give it slightly lower profile.
What's left:
Clean. Tune it up. Clean. Get Misc parts. Clean. Get tags, get
insurance, learn how to ride the thing.
EVEN IF I never ride it but get it road worthy again. That's enough for
me since the whole point of this exercise was to learn (and get out of
the house and away from the world for a few hours). It's a hobby bike to
mess with.
RUNNING COST:
Bike itself: $1 and lugging from the mud.
Getting the Title: $6
Parts from junkyard: $359
Misc Tools $35
Seat Redone: $66
RUNNING total SO far: $467 and a chinese dinner (that's what I owed my
friend for checking out the forks/frame).
So it's ugly at the momment. So am I, but it never stops me from having
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In article <FBS%b.3991$Er4.465@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
Adric Sponge <madrabbit.TakeThisOut@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
> Actually. I have been fixing it up anyways. Yes I had the Forks checked
> out. And yea the frame is still striaght. I had a friend that works on
> bikes for a living check it out.
>
> What's been done so far:
> Headlight Assembly: Replaced.
> Seat: Reapolhstered and looks pretty good.
> Handlebars: Replaced.
> Tank: Replaced from a 1981 GS650.
> Gauges: Replaced from the same 1981 GS650. The web that holds the
> assembly has a notch that interferes with the speedometer from sitting
> correctly. I"ll be filing that down this weekend and fixing that.
>
> NEED Side Panels (mine are pretty beaten up),
Good luck. If you get desparate, I've got a wax mold that I started
making back when I owned one. It's not an exact replica, and would need
some more work, but it might (might) be better than nothing. My idea was
to make the mold, then lay up a couple of fiberglass panels (mostly to
use up some glass and polyester resin that I've got sitting around) for
my '82. I sold the bike before doing anything more about it.
[snip]
>
> What's left:
> Clean. Tune it up. Clean. Get Misc parts. Clean. Get tags, get
> insurance, learn how to ride the thing.
If you're completely new to motorcycles, I strongly recommend the MSF
beginner course. I learned a lot back when I took it, and the price was
a bargain ($45 back then). I plan on taking it again this year, as I've
just gotten back into riding after a five-year break and more practice
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>EVEN IF I never ride it but get it road worthy again. That's enough for
>me since the whole point of this exercise was to learn (and get out of
>the house and away from the world for a few hours). It's a hobby bike to
>mess with.
With you on that.
>RUNNING COST:
>Bike itself: $1 and lugging from the mud.
>Getting the Title: $6
>Parts from junkyard: $359
>Misc Tools $35
>Seat Redone: $66
>RUNNING total SO far: $467 and a chinese dinner (that's what I owed my
>friend for checking out the forks/frame).
>
>So it's ugly at the momment. So am I, but it never stops me from having
>a good time. I can always get it painted after I learn to ride the thing.
Did you send that seat out or is that materials plus your free labor?
I would like to know as my project bike (now on the road for the last
8 mos.) looks great except for the black duct tape holding the seat
foam in. A while back I checked with some of the biggies Sargent,
Corbin and they wanted too much for a basic redo (pan and foam are
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In article <h5c540lpfhjtmv29iujhm2iaam2e9qsjtj.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
huntedbyafreak <> wrote:
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> >
> >EVEN IF I never ride it but get it road worthy again. That's enough for
> >me since the whole point of this exercise was to learn (and get out of
> >the house and away from the world for a few hours). It's a hobby bike to
> >mess with.
> With you on that.
> >RUNNING COST:
> >Bike itself: $1 and lugging from the mud.
> >Getting the Title: $6
> >Parts from junkyard: $359
> >Misc Tools $35
> >Seat Redone: $66
> >RUNNING total SO far: $467 and a chinese dinner (that's what I owed my
> >friend for checking out the forks/frame).
> >
> >So it's ugly at the momment. So am I, but it never stops me from having
> >a good time. I can always get it painted after I learn to ride the thing.
>
> Did you send that seat out or is that materials plus your free labor?
> I would like to know as my project bike (now on the road for the last
> 8 mos.) looks great except for the black duct tape holding the seat
> foam in. A while back I checked with some of the biggies Sargent,
> Corbin and they wanted too much for a basic redo (pan and foam are
> fine).
Back when I had my GS 650, I had the seat recovered (the foam was in
good shape) at a local shop that did auto upholstery (and alarm install,
etc.). The guy did a nice job with the new cover, even putting in a
similar stitching pattern and belt to the original. It cost me around
$40, IIRC (but that was years ago, and I don't own that bike or the
records anymore).
I got the name from another motorcyclist in the area. If you only want a
re-cover, that's probably the way to go: find a local shop that is
recommended by someone that you trust. If you want more serious
modifications, it might be the case that nobody local can do it, but
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Quick Questions: [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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After you do a complete fluid change, the first time you try to turn
it over, do it without spark plugs.
The problem you will have with the carbs, other than rotted gaskets
and o-rings, is dead fuel floats. Old fuel creates a varnish-like goo
on everything in the carb, especially of water vapor has gotten in
there. If you have a stuck float, you could have a cylinder full of
fuel. If you try to turn it over, you are likely to seriously destory
the motor (connecting rods, piston, etc). Taking the plugs out will
allow any fuel in there to exit the plug hole.
(Talking from experience on this one).
PS: also be sure the plug wires (and their high voltage) are not near
the flying gas.
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