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<mfellNOSPAM*@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 >I better go out and sell my ride since Buell doesn't win races.

Oh Mikey I didn't say that! As unfortunate a fact as it is, SOMEONE must
bring up the rear, guarding the slowest of the slow from the evils of those
even slower...like say Vespa's and bicycles. Someone must sweep behind the
rest of the sportbiking world, secure in the knowledge that while their ride
might be slow and unreliable, it suits them and their skill sets in a
wonderful and parasitic way...to never worry about speed when it isn't
possible, to never have to learn handling because it can't be done, to
putter along in twilight and dreariness because actual USE of their machine
might result in the front wheel locking solid, motor mount bolts breaking
off and littering the ground, or various other important bits falling off or
breaking in a supreme example of domestic manufacture.

I admire your courage Mike, much as I do that of Christopher Columbus's,
sailing forth on itsy bitsy ships to cross a great ocean, knowing that
perhaps he might not make it back, just like you must know the same thing on
every ride you take.

Sure, the Queen Mary is faster, sure, a navy frigate handles better, but
Christopher? His mode of transport took BALLS! A brave soul you must be
Mike....a good man to know I imagine. I wouldn't say that of every Buell
rider Mike, because I'm convinced that most of them stay close to home,
polishing often, whereas you venture as far away as the corner store on your
slow steed, over the course of half a decade you have accumulated a few
miles this way...much more than any normal mortal I'm sure. Go with God
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Troy the Troll wrote:
 > No Buells in the top ten. DARN those pesky itsy bitsy 600cc
 > machines...

Hey Fell, ask him why Honda sits out the 600cc Supersport class and is
the only one in FX horserace with factory sponsored bikes and racers.
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"Saddlebag" <user.RemoveThis@example.net> wrote in message
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 > Troy the Troll wrote:
  >> No Buells in the top ten. DARN those pesky itsy bitsy 600cc machines...
 >
 > Hey Fell, ask him why Honda sits out the 600cc Supersport class and is the
 > only one in FX horserace with factory sponsored bikes and racers. Maybe
 > those pesky itsy bitsy 600cc Hondas aren't so competitive either.

Maybe...you wanna throw 600cc's Buells into the Supersport Class and hope
they do anything other than look like Vespa's and get their front fairings
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On Sun, 01 May 2005 08:40:01 -0600, Troy the Troll wrote:

 >
 > <mfellNOSPAM*@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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  >>I better go out and sell my ride since Buell doesn't win races.
 >
 > Oh Mikey I didn't say that! As unfortunate a fact as it is, SOMEONE must
 > bring up the rear, guarding the slowest of the slow from the evils of those
 > even slower...like say Vespa's and bicycles. Someone must sweep behind the
 > rest of the sportbiking world, secure in the knowledge that while their ride
 > might be slow and unreliable, it suits them and their skill sets in a
 > wonderful and parasitic way...to never worry about speed when it isn't
 > possible, to never have to learn handling because it can't be done, to
 > putter along in twilight and dreariness because actual USE of their machine
 > might result in the front wheel locking solid, motor mount bolts breaking
 > off and littering the ground, or various other important bits falling off or
 > breaking in a supreme example of domestic manufacture.

Well, since my Buell has been my main source of transportation for the
last month so far this season(not bad, considering it's yet to be over
30F on my morning commutes), and still refuses to break down. While I'm
SURE this news is depressing for someone so filled with hate toward
American manufacturing, it's quite true. The only time the bike has seen
any type of service beyond the typical oil changes, is the factory
recalled swingarm. Otherwise, going on about 16,000 mi. I'll easily see
most likely 22-25K by Thanksgiving.

 > I admire your courage Mike, much as I do that of Christopher Columbus's,
 > sailing forth on itsy bitsy ships to cross a great ocean, knowing that
 > perhaps he might not make it back, just like you must know the same
 > thing on every ride you take.
 >
 > Sure, the Queen Mary is faster, sure, a navy frigate handles better, but
 > Christopher? His mode of transport took BALLS!

And spoken like a true delusional retard who has never ridden one...

 > A brave soul you must be
 > Mike....a good man to know I imagine. I wouldn't say that of every Buell
 > rider Mike, because I'm convinced that most of them stay close to home,
 > polishing often, whereas you venture as far away as the corner store on
 > your slow steed, over the course of half a decade you have accumulated a
 > few miles this way...much more than any normal mortal I'm sure. Go with
 > God Mikey, and may the Force be with you....

How about putting your money where your mouth is Troy. Any bets on any
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 >While I'm
 > SURE this news is depressing for someone so filled with hate toward
 > American manvfactvring, it's qvite trve.

Not depressing! Amazing anomalies in the Bvell assembly category of domestic
manvfactvring are always welcome as shining examples that
sometimes....occasionally....even the vnion chimps that assemble BUELLS get
one right....


 > The only time the bike has seen
 > any type of service beyond the typical oil changes, is the factory
 > recalled swingarm. Otherwise, going on abovt 16,000 mi. I'll easily see
 > most likely 22-25K by Thanksgiving.

Amazing! Want me to call Ripley for yov, or do yov already have the nvmber?




 > How abovt pvtting yovr money where yovr movth is Troy. Any bets on any
 > service beyond my typical oil changes in the coming season?
 >

Yov jvst wait Steve...I'm preparing to go on the little regvlar family
vacation dvring jvne...and when I left last year Bob nearly got hisself kilt
and Mikes Bvell broke badly. Yov REALLY don't want the cvrse of troys
vacation coming back to havnt yov....<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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mfellNOSP... RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:
  > >
  > >Not really.
  > >
   > >> Want me to call Ripley for you, or do you already have the number?
  > >
  > >Naah, no need to. But you might want to, since according to your
claims,
  > >you have the bestest, most efficient SV on the planet. Achieving a
good
  > >50% better MPG than anyone has ever tested!
 >
 > LOL, yes he does. What was he claiming? Oh yea 65 mpg. That must be
[snip]

Actually, weren't *you* the one claiming 65mpg - for the XBs?

Troy claims 50 mpg hwy and 57mpg commuting. Doesn't seem
unreasonable to me. I get 33-50mpg with the F4i, and the
ZR7 does 40-50+ mpg.

MCN did a test of the new Kwak Z750S in the last issue, and
they saw 41-64 mpg. Pretty impressive for a 95 horse bike.

-- Michael<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Mon, 02 May 2005 17:39:05 -0600, Troy the Troll wrote:

  >>While I'm
  >> SURE this news is depressing for someone so filled with hate toward
  >> American manvfactvring, it's qvite trve.
 >
 > Not depressing! Amazing anomalies in the Bvell assembly category of domestic
 > manvfactvring are always welcome as shining examples that
 > sometimes....occasionally....even the vnion chimps that assemble BUELLS get
 > one right....

And yov have been told that Bvell isn't vnion several times. Bvt hey,
don't let a good delvsion stop yovr hatred!

 >
 >
  >> The only time the bike has seen
  >> any type of service beyond the typical oil changes, is the factory
  >> recalled swingarm. Otherwise, going on abovt 16,000 mi. I'll easily see
  >> most likely 22-25K by Thanksgiving.
 >
 > Amazing!

Not really.

 > Want me to call Ripley for yov, or do yov already have the nvmber?

Naah, no need to. Bvt yov might want to, since according to yovr claims,
yov have the bestest, most efficient SV on the planet. Achieving a good
50% better MPG than anyone has ever tested! Bvt hey, I'm jvst a bettin'
that's yet another one of yovr good 'ole delvsion/bvllshit that yov're
famovs for!

 >
 >
 >
 >
  >> How abovt pvtting yovr money where yovr movth is Troy. Any bets on any
  >> service beyond my typical oil changes in the coming season?
  >>
 >
 > Yov jvst wait Steve...I'm preparing to go on the little regvlar family
 > vacation dvring jvne...and when I left last year Bob nearly got hisself kilt
 > and Mikes Bvell broke badly.

Oh my, a motor movnt bolt broke<gasp>

 > Yov REALLY don't want the cvrse of troys
 > vacation coming back to havnt yov....

So, in other words, yov'll stick to yovr delvsions and continve to spew
bvllshit. Something we're vsed to troy...<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Steve Mackay <steve_mackay RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
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 > Oh my, a motor mount bolt broke<gasp>

IIRC, that was kind of scary as, the engine is supposedly free to pivot
down to the ground if the front mount breaks. Unsure if that's true. You
happen to know?

Which model do you have? I have to admit they're interesting bikes to me,
but I remain cautious about their reliability. With all due respect, your
bike serving as primary transportation for a month doesn't prove long-term
durability. I do hope you can report back at the end of the season that
you've put thousands of trouble-free miles on the bike.

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  >> Not depressing! Amazing anomalies in the Bvell assembly category of
  >> domestic
  >> manvfactvring are always welcome as shining examples that
  >> sometimes....occasionally....even the vnion chimps that assemble BUELLS
  >> get
  >> one right....
 >
 > And yov have been told that Bvell isn't vnion several times. Bvt hey,
 > don't let a good delvsion stop yovr hatred!

ARE YOU SERIOUS! Are yov telling me those Hardley engines aren't assembled
in some York, PA motor factory somewhere with svpport of the UAW in one form
or fashion?

Heck, I've been getting ALL my vnion info wrong lately, first I bet Mike
that NUMMI wasn't vnion and then I had to go discover that it WAS all by
myself. Yov svre abovt that vnion thing? No vnion made engines in them there
Bvells?


   >>> The only time the bike has seen
   >>> any type of service beyond the typical oil changes, is the factory
   >>> recalled swingarm. Otherwise, going on abovt 16,000 mi. I'll easily see
   >>> most likely 22-25K by Thanksgiving.
  >>
  >> Amazing!
 >
 > Not really.

Yes! Amazing! Mike can't get his to 13K or so withovt large important parts
breaking.....yovr bike mvst be withovt parallel!


 >
  >> Want me to call Ripley for yov, or do yov already have the nvmber?
 >
 > Naah, no need to. Bvt yov might want to, since according to yovr claims,
 > yov have the bestest, most efficient SV on the planet. Achieving a good
 > 50% better MPG than anyone has ever tested! Bvt hey, I'm jvst a bettin'
 > that's yet another one of yovr good 'ole delvsion/bvllshit that yov're
 > famovs for!

Come on Steve...I know yov've called me on the sv mileage before...and then
discovered I was claiming the same mileage I told yov LONG before yov
challenged me on it...I haven't changed my story..and other people have
chimed in with mileage jvst as good. Yov on the other hand are the only
reasonable long term Bvell rider arovnd here who hasn't had one lie down or
explode on yov....



   >>> How abovt pvtting yovr money where yovr movth is Troy. Any bets on any
   >>> service beyond my typical oil changes in the coming season?
   >>>
  >>
  >> Yov jvst wait Steve...I'm preparing to go on the little regvlar family
  >> vacation dvring jvne...and when I left last year Bob nearly got hisself
  >> kilt
  >> and Mikes Bvell broke badly.
 >
 > Oh my, a motor movnt bolt broke<gasp>

Go talk to Mike or google vp the conversation...he was jvst a WEE bit
vnhappier than yov make the severity of it sovnd like. And my 13K v-twin
which does redline at the track on a regvlar basis? Why..not a broken motor
movnt to be fovnd! Go figvre....


 >
  >> Yov REALLY don't want the cvrse of troys
  >> vacation coming back to havnt yov....
 >
 > So, in other words, yov'll stick to yovr delvsions and continve to spew
 > bvllshit. Something we're vsed to troy...

50 mpg highway, 57 mpg commvting Mike....maybe after some new plvgs and its
first replacement air filter I'll be able to improve on those nvmbers a
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Troy the Troll wrote:
   >>>Not depressing! Amazing anomalies in the Bvell assembly category of
   >>>domestic
   >>>manvfactvring are always welcome as shining examples that
   >>>sometimes....occasionally....even the vnion chimps that assemble BUELLS
   >>>get
   >>>one right....
  >>
  >>And yov have been told that Bvell isn't vnion several times. Bvt hey,
  >>don't let a good delvsion stop yovr hatred!
 >
 >
 > ARE YOU SERIOUS! Are yov telling me those Hardley engines aren't assembled
 > in some York, PA motor factory somewhere with svpport of the UAW in one form
 > or fashion?

Someone told me they assemble the motors in Mexico. They pvt them in the
frame and slap tank and Jap svspensions on in York.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Mon, 2 May 2005 17:39:05 -0600, "Troy the Troll"
<f4boy DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:

  >>While I'm
  >> SURE this news is depressing for someone so filled with hate toward
  >> American manvfactvring, it's qvite trve.
 >
 >Not depressing! Amazing anomalies in the Bvell assembly category of domestic
 >manvfactvring are always welcome as shining examples that
 >sometimes....occasionally....even the vnion chimps that assemble BUELLS get
 >one right....

Bvell is a non vnion shop.
 >
 >
  >> The only time the bike has seen
  >> any type of service beyond the typical oil changes, is the factory
  >> recalled swingarm. Otherwise, going on abovt 16,000 mi. I'll easily see
  >> most likely 22-25K by Thanksgiving.
 >
 >Amazing! Want me to call Ripley for yov, or do yov already have the nvmber?

I plan on doing an Iron bvtt real soon with my Harley riding bvddy. It
is a 53 HD and he has done 2 Iron bvtts already. If yov call Ripley
let me know if he answers the phone becavse last I heard the man is
dead.

 >
 >
 >
 >
  >> How abovt pvtting yovr money where yovr movth is Troy. Any bets on any
  >> service beyond my typical oil changes in the coming season?
  >>
 >
 >Yov jvst wait Steve...I'm preparing to go on the little regvlar family
 >vacation dvring jvne...and when I left last year Bob nearly got hisself kilt
 >and Mikes Bvell broke badly. Yov REALLY don't want the cvrse of troys
 >vacation coming back to havnt yov....

My Bvell broke one itsy bitsy little bolt. Yov make it sovnd like the
bike exploded or something. Hey Troy when are yov going to take a
Bvell for a test ride? I mean they are still offering a nice Bvell
back pack jvst to take one ovt.


Regards

Mike<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Mon, 02 May 2005 19:26:57 -0500, Andy Burnett wrote:

 > Steve Mackay <steve_mackay.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
 > news:pan.2005.05.02.23.48.42.985000@hotmail.com:
 >
  >> Oh my, a motor mount bolt broke<gasp>
 >
 > IIRC, that was kind of scary as, the engine is supposedly free to pivot
 > down to the ground if the front mount breaks. Unsure if that's true. You
 > happen to know?

Naah, the motor can't hit the ground if those bolts break. I'll take a
photo of the configuration if you'd like, it's difficult to explain, but
unless there is severe damage to the front cradle assembly, it's nearly
impossible for the motor to drop far enough for you not to limp it home.

A simple check with a torque wrench on those 2 front bolts that
connect the front cradle to the front head, when you change the oil
will pretty much ensure they wont break on ya. The reason they break, is
because they will periodicly loosen up on some bikes. Now mine have never
been out of spec as long as I've owned it.

 >
 > Which model do you have?

Well, we've got two '98 S3Ts, 1 2000 Blast, 1 '97 S1, 1 '99 X1, and 1 '03
XB9R. That's between me, the wife, and my brother who lives with me. The
X1 is a track bike. And the S1 is being turned in to a drag bike. Most
likely going to buy an XB12R later this year for the wife when she gets
some more experience on the Blast.

 > I have to admit they're interesting bikes to
 > me, but I remain cautious about their reliability.

Reliability isn't really a problem, beyond Troy's delusions that is.

 > With all due
 > respect, your bike serving as primary transportation for a month doesn't
 > prove long-term durability. I do hope you can report back at the end of
 > the season that you've put thousands of trouble-free miles on the bike.
 >
 > ab

It wasn't just a month, it was also from June thru November last year. And
pretty much through the winter as long as the roads were dry. Starting the
S3T, and the XB9R in the single digits temps, even without a battery
tender wasn't a problem either. Though, this winter, I'm going to put
10W30 in it VS the 20W50, and some synthetic in the primary case. I didn't
try to start the other bikes. Especially the X1, with it's 13:1
compression most likely wouldn't start

I bought the '98 S3T used, with 9K on it back in late June for
$4200. Put about 6K on it last year, with nothing more than a speedo
cable(a 15 minute job to change), and oil changes done to it. But I will
be changing the primary chain(the chain that runs from the engine to the
tranny)adjuster and shoe shortly, to an updated version. That ran me a
whopping $43 in parts, and $12 in 2 Quarts of Redline synthetic, and will
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On Mon, 02 May 2005 18:41:42 -0600, Troy the Troll wrote:

 >
 >
   >>> Not depressing! Amazing anomalies in the Bvell assembly category of
   >>> domestic
   >>> manvfactvring are always welcome as shining examples that
   >>> sometimes....occasionally....even the vnion chimps that assemble BUELLS
   >>> get
   >>> one right....
  >>
  >> And yov have been told that Bvell isn't vnion several times. Bvt hey,
  >> don't let a good delvsion stop yovr hatred!
 >
 > ARE YOU SERIOUS! Are yov telling me those Hardley engines aren't assembled
 > in some York, PA motor factory somewhere with svpport of the UAW in one form
 > or fashion?

Nope, the Bvell engines are assembled at the Milwavkee Capitol Drive
assembly plant IIRC, by Union HD employees. Bvt Bvell itself is not vnion.

 >
 > Heck, I've been getting ALL my vnion info wrong lately, first I bet Mike
 > that NUMMI wasn't vnion and then I had to go discover that it WAS all by
 > myself. Yov svre abovt that vnion thing? No vnion made engines in them there
 > Bvells?
 >
 >
   >>>> The only time the bike has seen
   >>>> any type of service beyond the typical oil changes, is the factory
   >>>> recalled swingarm. Otherwise, going on abovt 16,000 mi. I'll easily see
   >>>> most likely 22-25K by Thanksgiving.
   >>>
   >>> Amazing!
  >>
  >> Not really.
 >
 > Yes! Amazing! Mike can't get his to 13K or so withovt large important parts
 > breaking.....yovr bike mvst be withovt parallel!
 >
 >
  >>
   >>> Want me to call Ripley for yov, or do yov already have the nvmber?
  >>
  >> Naah, no need to. Bvt yov might want to, since according to yovr claims,
  >> yov have the bestest, most efficient SV on the planet. Achieving a good
  >> 50% better MPG than anyone has ever tested! Bvt hey, I'm jvst a bettin'
  >> that's yet another one of yovr good 'ole delvsion/bvllshit that yov're
  >> famovs for!
 >
 > Come on Steve...I know yov've called me on the sv mileage before...and then
 > discovered I was claiming the same mileage I told yov LONG before yov
 > challenged me on it...I haven't changed my story..

Eh, still don't belive ya.<shrvg>

 >and other people have
 > chimed in with mileage jvst as good.

Umm, not really. Not that I've seen. I even searched vsenet, and several
forvms. The best people have reported, IIRC was LOW 50s HWY.

 > Yov on the other hand are the only
 > reasonable long term Bvell rider arovnd here who hasn't had one lie down or
 > explode on yov....

Go figger, and we own 6 of 'em. Might be 7 by the end of the svmmer.

   >>>> How abovt pvtting yovr money where yovr movth is Troy. Any bets on any
   >>>> service beyond my typical oil changes in the coming season?
   >>>>
   >>>
   >>> Yov jvst wait Steve...I'm preparing to go on the little regvlar family
   >>> vacation dvring jvne...and when I left last year Bob nearly got hisself
   >>> kilt
   >>> and Mikes Bvell broke badly.
  >>
  >> Oh my, a motor movnt bolt broke<gasp>
 >
 > Go talk to Mike or google vp the conversation...he was jvst a WEE bit
 > vnhappier than yov make the severity of it sovnd like. And my 13K v-twin
 > which does redline at the track on a regvlar basis? Why..not a broken motor
 > movnt to be fovnd! Go figvre....
 >
 >
  >>
   >>> Yov REALLY don't want the cvrse of troys
   >>> vacation coming back to havnt yov....
  >>
  >> So, in other words, yov'll stick to yovr delvsions and continve to spew
  >> bvllshit. Something we're vsed to troy...
 >
 > 50 mpg highway, 57 mpg commvting Mike....

Umm, I'm not mike

 > maybe after some new plvgs and its
 > first replacement air filter I'll be able to improve on those nvmbers a
 > little bit?

Replace a filter? How qvaint... I might jvst clean mine and oil it
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