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Since: Aug 15, 2006 Posts: 1262
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:52 pm
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So I forgot to mention this earlier, and in the interest of full disclosure
as to my lack of wrenchin abilities ( after seeing saddles post ), I figured
I would tell my most recent boner story.
So there I am last weekend, changing whatever oils are left in my vehicles,
and I'm down to the 650. Last summer/fall it was 5-50W syntec and a zookie
filter, this time I've got some leftover oils I'm gonna use.
So I round up my leftover oils, and begin to pour it in! First a quart of
15-50W Mobil 1, then a leftover amount of 5-50W to get rid of the jug....and
then ( heres the kicker! ) an opened bottle of 10-40W cage oil.
Except....last fall, when swapping out the transfer case fluid on the Titan,
I apparently dumped my leftover ATF fluid into a Castrol 10-40 quart jug,
and without sniffing it or seeing it first, I begin to pour! Apon noticing
the color...I go banana's. Sure, synthetic ATF is a long chain hydrocarbon,
but it don't belong in the crankcase.
Great.
So here I go again, drain everything out back outta the bike, find some REAL
castrol 10-40W ( in a moment of panic during the next quart in, I could have
SWORN it was brake fluid the stuff was so clear ), pour it in and watch it
run out the bottom until the color isn't red anymore.
So when I'm finished wasting all this good motor oil, I round up what I've
got, which is 20-50W Castrol I was accumulating for the big zookies summer
oil change, and finally get the job done.
ATF in the motor...what a twit. Been running the bike since then though,
everything seems fine. I was worried about the clutch mostly, goo up the
plates, slip central, yada yada. Who knows, but if it was bad, I figured it
would happen to me. >> Stay informed about: Troy pulls a boner.... |
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Since: Mar 14, 2007 Posts: 152
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:33 pm
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"TroytheTroll" <f4_boy.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> So I forgot to mention this earlier, and in the interest of full
> disclosure as to my lack of wrenchin abilities ( after seeing saddles
> post ), I figured I would tell my most recent boner story.
>
> So there I am last weekend, changing whatever oils are left in my
> vehicles, and I'm down to the 650. Last summer/fall it was 5-50W syntec
> and a zookie filter, this time I've got some leftover oils I'm gonna use.
>
> So I round up my leftover oils, and begin to pour it in! First a quart of
> 15-50W Mobil 1, then a leftover amount of 5-50W to get rid of the
> jug....and then ( heres the kicker! ) an opened bottle of 10-40W cage oil.
>
> Except....last fall, when swapping out the transfer case fluid on the
> Titan, I apparently dumped my leftover ATF fluid into a Castrol 10-40
> quart jug, and without sniffing it or seeing it first, I begin to pour!
> Apon noticing the color...I go banana's. Sure, synthetic ATF is a long
> chain hydrocarbon, but it don't belong in the crankcase.
>
> Great.
>
> So here I go again, drain everything out back outta the bike, find some
> REAL castrol 10-40W ( in a moment of panic during the next quart in, I
> could have SWORN it was brake fluid the stuff was so clear ), pour it in
> and watch it run out the bottom until the color isn't red anymore.
>
> So when I'm finished wasting all this good motor oil, I round up what I've
> got, which is 20-50W Castrol I was accumulating for the big zookies summer
> oil change, and finally get the job done.
>
> ATF in the motor...what a twit. Been running the bike since then though,
> everything seems fine. I was worried about the clutch mostly, goo up the
> plates, slip central, yada yada. Who knows, but if it was bad, I figured
> it would happen to me.
>
>
Any weird smell in the exhaust?
I think you'll prolly be ok since the motor wasn't running, and you flushed
it out pretty quick.
Is ATF fluid as corrosive as brake fluid?
--
Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Infant
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Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
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Since: Aug 15, 2006 Posts: 1262
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:41 pm
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> Any weird smell in the exhaust?
Nope.
> I think you'll prolly be ok since the motor wasn't running, and you
> flushed it out pretty quick.
Yup. And it was only a little, I noticed it not looking like motor oil REAL
fast.
> Is ATF fluid as corrosive as brake fluid?
>
I don't think so. ATF is effectively a thin motor oil like fluid, with weird
additives. Those additives and their effect on the clutch plates were my
real concern, and because it just ran through a warm motor I don't figure it
was given the opportunity to screw up much.
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Since: Jun 20, 2003 Posts: 260
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:09 am
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Since: Feb 05, 2005 Posts: 162
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:38 am
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"TroytheTroll" <f4_boy.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I don't think so. ATF is effectively a thin motor oil like fluid, with
> weird additives. Those additives and their effect on the clutch plates
> were my real concern, and because it just ran through a warm motor I don't
> figure it was given the opportunity to screw up much.
>
> Not yet anyway.
automatic transmissions have "wet" clutches in them... you are okay... >> Stay informed about: Troy pulls a boner.... |
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Since: Mar 13, 2007 Posts: 9
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:43 am
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TroytheTroll wrote:
> So I forgot to mention this earlier, and in the interest of full
> disclosure as to my lack of wrenchin abilities ( after seeing saddles post
> ), I figured I would tell my most recent boner story.
>
> So there I am last weekend, changing whatever oils are left in my
> vehicles, and I'm down to the 650. Last summer/fall it was 5-50W syntec
> and a zookie filter, this time I've got some leftover oils I'm gonna use.
>
> So I round up my leftover oils, and begin to pour it in! First a quart of
> 15-50W Mobil 1, then a leftover amount of 5-50W to get rid of the
> jug....and then ( heres the kicker! ) an opened bottle of 10-40W cage oil.
>
> Except....last fall, when swapping out the transfer case fluid on the
> Titan, I apparently dumped my leftover ATF fluid into a Castrol 10-40
> quart jug, and without sniffing it or seeing it first, I begin to pour!
> Apon noticing the color...I go banana's. Sure, synthetic ATF is a long
> chain hydrocarbon, but it don't belong in the crankcase.
>
> Great.
>
> So here I go again, drain everything out back outta the bike, find some
> REAL castrol 10-40W ( in a moment of panic during the next quart in, I
> could have SWORN it was brake fluid the stuff was so clear ), pour it in
> and watch it run out the bottom until the color isn't red anymore.
>
> So when I'm finished wasting all this good motor oil, I round up what I've
> got, which is 20-50W Castrol I was accumulating for the big zookies summer
> oil change, and finally get the job done.
>
> ATF in the motor...what a twit. Been running the bike since then though,
> everything seems fine. I was worried about the clutch mostly, goo up the
> plates, slip central, yada yada. Who knows, but if it was bad, I figured
> it would happen to me.
Actually I know a guy who uses ATF Fluid to fix stuck lifters in engines.
He'll drain the engine and then fill it up with ATF and then let it sit
there and idle for an hour or so.
I think ATF has a lot of cleaning additives in it if I remember right so
that helps really clean out the engine. It'll run with it just fine...I
just prolly wouldn't wanna go take a 1,000 mile trip with it in there. =)
--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6
君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは
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Since: Jun 18, 2006 Posts: 603
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:38 am
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On Mar 22, 9:15 am, "Bob Myers" <nospample....RemoveThis@address.invalid> wrote:
> "Joey Tribiani" <J....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:kDoMh.3142$ia7.1292@newsfe14.lga...
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> > automatic transmissions have "wet" clutches in them... you are okay...
>
> No, automatic transmissions have torque converters. Completely
> different sort of beast.
>
> Bob M.
And you are wrong:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission1.htm
The torque convertor is not part of the transmission. It is between
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Since: Jun 18, 2006 Posts: 603
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:43 am
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"TroytheTroll" <f4_boy RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I apparently dumped my leftover ATF fluid into a Castrol 10-40 quart jug,
And this is the lesson folks. Never do this. OSHA has rules and
regulations regarding storing materials in mis-labeled containers. Bad
things can happen.
Imagine how bad it could have been if he had poured the ATF in a bottle of
Purple Gatorade. >> Stay informed about: Troy pulls a boner.... |
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Since: Sep 30, 2005 Posts: 193
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:50 am
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"Joey Tribiani" <Joey.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> automatic transmissions have "wet" clutches in them... you are okay...
No, automatic transmissions have torque converters. Completely
different sort of beast.
Bob M. >> Stay informed about: Troy pulls a boner.... |
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Since: Sep 30, 2005 Posts: 193
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:54 pm
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"BryanUT" <nestle12.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> No, automatic transmissions have torque converters. Completely
>> different sort of beast.
>>
>> Bob M.
>
> And you are wrong:
Sigh. The torque converter in an automatic transmission takes
the place of what would normally be pointed to as "the clutch"
in a manual. That there are other clutches within the automatic
is also true. I still don't think this should be taken as reason for
thinking that ATF would be a good thing to put into a
motorcycle's transmission.
Bob M. >> Stay informed about: Troy pulls a boner.... |
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Since: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 480
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:02 pm
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On Mar 22, 11:14 am, "Bob Myers" <nospample....TakeThisOut@address.invalid> wrote:
> "BryanUT" <nestl....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> news:1174574298.899981.42590@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
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> >> No, automatic transmissions have torque converters. Completely
> >> different sort of beast.
>
> >> Bob M.
>
> > And you are wrong:
>
> Sigh. The torque converter in an automatic transmission takes
> the place of what would normally be pointed to as "the clutch"
> in a manual. That there are other clutches within the automatic
> is also true. I still don't think this should be taken as reason for
> thinking that ATF would be a good thing to put into a
> motorcycle's transmission.
Furthermore, ATF apparently lubricates the torque converter. My
mother's Thunderbird developed a pronounced, intermittent, and speed
related thumping. After Googling the problem and getting past the 20+
hits to buy a manual that would grace me with a solution, I came
across a free site that said to change the transmission fluid. An
hour and $60 later the problem was solved.
What's the worse thing that could happen? Maybe smoke out because
it's not able to handle crankcase heat? It's oil man, it's made to
lubricate metals. Probably has better shear characteristics than
regular motor oil and will probably be better than standard oils for
bikes anyway since motorcycles (save well engineered HDs) have only a
single lube for both engines and their high shear transmissions! >> Stay informed about: Troy pulls a boner.... |
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Since: Feb 05, 2005 Posts: 162
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:17 am
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"Bob Myers" <nospamplease RemoveThis @address.invalid> wrote in message
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> "BryanUT" <nestle12 RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1174574298.899981.42590@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
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>>> No, automatic transmissions have torque converters. Completely
>>> different sort of beast.
>>>
>>> Bob M.
>>
>> And you are wrong:
>
> Sigh. The torque converter in an automatic transmission takes
> the place of what would normally be pointed to as "the clutch"
> in a manual. That there are other clutches within the automatic
> is also true. I still don't think this should be taken as reason for
> thinking that ATF would be a good thing to put into a
> motorcycle's transmission.
>
> Bob M.
>
>
>
Bob, i never suggested it was a "good thing", just pointing out that an
automatic transmission has clutchpacks that are submerged in the atf.... in
effect they are wetclutches. why you would assume i was refering to the
fluid coupling(torque converter) i have no idea.... i had the clutch stacks
and the planetary gear assembly from an automatic transmission in my hand
about a week ago.... the torque converter was on the floor, no serviceable
parts in that without cutting it open... >> Stay informed about: Troy pulls a boner.... |
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Since: Jan 08, 2007 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:41 pm
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TroytheTroll wrote:
> So I forgot to mention this earlier, and in the interest of full
> disclosure as to my lack of wrenchin abilities ( after seeing saddles
> post ), I figured I would tell my most recent boner story.
>
> So there I am last weekend, changing whatever oils are left in my
> vehicles, and I'm down to the 650. Last summer/fall it was 5-50W syntec
> and a zookie filter, this time I've got some leftover oils I'm gonna use.
>
> So I round up my leftover oils, and begin to pour it in! First a quart
> of 15-50W Mobil 1, then a leftover amount of 5-50W to get rid of the
> jug....and then ( heres the kicker! ) an opened bottle of 10-40W cage oil.
>
> Except....last fall, when swapping out the transfer case fluid on the
> Titan, I apparently dumped my leftover ATF fluid into a Castrol 10-40
> quart jug, and without sniffing it or seeing it first, I begin to pour!
> Apon noticing the color...I go banana's. Sure, synthetic ATF is a long
> chain hydrocarbon, but it don't belong in the crankcase.
>
> Great.
>
> So here I go again, drain everything out back outta the bike, find some
> REAL castrol 10-40W ( in a moment of panic during the next quart in, I
> could have SWORN it was brake fluid the stuff was so clear ), pour it in
> and watch it run out the bottom until the color isn't red anymore.
>
> So when I'm finished wasting all this good motor oil, I round up what
> I've got, which is 20-50W Castrol I was accumulating for the big zookies
> summer oil change, and finally get the job done.
>
> ATF in the motor...what a twit. Been running the bike since then though,
> everything seems fine. I was worried about the clutch mostly, goo up the
> plates, slip central, yada yada. Who knows, but if it was bad, I figured
> it would happen to me.
>
>
Allot of opinions here, not taking sides, just suggesting a site for all
oil concerns.:
www.Bobistheoilguy.com Don't let the name fool you, a serious forum.
J. >> Stay informed about: Troy pulls a boner.... |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:41 pm
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> Allot of opinions here, not taking sides, just suggesting a site for all
> oil concerns.:
>
> www.Bobistheoilguy.com Don't let the name fool you, a serious forum.
Well, sorta, as long as you don't drop in and mention you think Mobil 1 is
Group III versus Group IV basestock...or visa versa.... >> Stay informed about: Troy pulls a boner.... |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:19 pm
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 02:13:09 +0200, Berg <bogus RemoveThis @bogus.com.Invalid>
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>TroytheTroll wrote:
>> So I forgot to mention this earlier, and in the interest of full
>> disclosure as to my lack of wrenchin abilities ( after seeing saddles
>> post ), I figured I would tell my most recent boner story.
>>
>> So there I am last weekend, changing whatever oils are left in my
>> vehicles, and I'm down to the 650. Last summer/fall it was 5-50W syntec
>> and a zookie filter, this time I've got some leftover oils I'm gonna use.
>>
>> So I round up my leftover oils, and begin to pour it in! First a quart
>> of 15-50W Mobil 1, then a leftover amount of 5-50W to get rid of the
>> jug....and then ( heres the kicker! ) an opened bottle of 10-40W cage oil.
>>
>> Except....last fall, when swapping out the transfer case fluid on the
>> Titan, I apparently dumped my leftover ATF fluid into a Castrol 10-40
>> quart jug, and without sniffing it or seeing it first, I begin to pour!
>> Apon noticing the color...I go banana's. Sure, synthetic ATF is a long
>> chain hydrocarbon, but it don't belong in the crankcase.
>>
>> Great.
>>
>> So here I go again, drain everything out back outta the bike, find some
>> REAL castrol 10-40W ( in a moment of panic during the next quart in, I
>> could have SWORN it was brake fluid the stuff was so clear ), pour it in
>> and watch it run out the bottom until the color isn't red anymore.
>>
>> So when I'm finished wasting all this good motor oil, I round up what
>> I've got, which is 20-50W Castrol I was accumulating for the big zookies
>> summer oil change, and finally get the job done.
>>
>> ATF in the motor...what a twit. Been running the bike since then though,
>> everything seems fine. I was worried about the clutch mostly, goo up the
>> plates, slip central, yada yada. Who knows, but if it was bad, I figured
>> it would happen to me.
>>
>>
>
>Allot of opinions here, not taking sides, just suggesting a site for all
>oil concerns.:
>
>www.Bobistheoilguy.com Don't let the name fool you, a serious forum.
>
>J.
Hey Troy maybe you can go read that forum. You could learn
something.
Regards
Mike
Go Blackhawks!
Go Cubs!
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