Ping Troy

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:12:38 +0000, Troy the Troll wrote:

 >
 > "Steve Mackay" <steve_mackay RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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  >>
  >> See, there are Buells at the track
  >>
  >> and plans for another in the spring. Why don't you join us?
  >>
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  >>
 >
 > I never said Buells DIDN'T go to the track...Barney handles that end of the
 > issue...its just I don't ever get to see any, haven't seen any, ever. I know
 > they are out there, they just aren't out there MUCH.
 >
 > I noticed that the place mentioned is Blackhawk farms ( yeech...here we go
 > with rinky dinks again ), but it looks like they are still argueing about
 > the time and date?

Trying to rent Road America was talked about also, if we get enough people
to sign up, that may just happen. But, according to the guys who do a lot
of track time, Blackhawk is suited quite well to the Buells. Not a ton of
long straights, etc...

 >
 > Since I don't watch BWB unless there is something I'm in the middle of, can
 > you keep an eye open for me and let me know when everything finalizes? I'll
 > keep it in mind, my preferences being decent tracks rather than local little
 > ones, but it looks like they are trying out a Buell BWB only event....would
 > they mind me tagging along with my rinky dink track bike rather than my real
 > track machine?

Troy, Buellers don't mind other bikes

Seriously, no, it wouldn't be a problem. Dyna will be there with his R1,
Matt(my nephew) will be there with his GSXR600, And a couple of guys I've
started riding with, on a Ducati 749(I think), and some Honda crotch
rocket.

The guy trying to organize this thing (Daves is his badweb handle) is in
to sportbikes in general. He just happens to ride a demo XB12R, and work at
Appleton Harley Davidson.

I really hope you can make it.

Now over the winter, I gotta get myself a set of leathers, boots, good
gloves, a Snell approved helmet(yes, I do wear a helmet 99% of the time
on the street, it's just one of them flip up face ones, just not Snell
approved), and a good set of tires. I do have some "race" Dunlops that
came with the bike(previous owner did some track days), just not sure if
there is enough "meat" on 'em.

I think I may also swap on the "spare" bodywork for the track(much worse
shape than what I have on the bike) that I picked up off ebay for $150 <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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 >From: Steve Mackay

 >I really hope you can make it.

Says Steve as he plots with his fellow Buellers as to who gets the first kick
at the big jump in...<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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  >> I noticed that the place mentioned is Blackhawk farms ( yeech...here we
  >> go
  >> with rinky dinks again ), but it looks like they are still argueing about
  >> the time and date?
 >
 > Trying to rent Road America was talked about also, if we get enough people
 > to sign up, that may just happen. But, according to the guys who do a lot
 > of track time, Blackhawk is suited quite well to the Buells. Not a ton of
 > long straights, etc...

oh yes...I imagine most rinky dinks are pretty well suited to the Buells,
what with their lack of power, heavy weight, poor brakes, etc etc
BBWWAAAHHHAAAHHHAA!!

But hey, Road America now...THAT is a track.


 >
  >>
  >> Since I don't watch BWB unless there is something I'm in the middle of,
  >> can
  >> you keep an eye open for me and let me know when everything finalizes?
  >> I'll
  >> keep it in mind, my preferences being decent tracks rather than local
  >> little
  >> ones, but it looks like they are trying out a Buell BWB only
  >> event....would
  >> they mind me tagging along with my rinky dink track bike rather than my
  >> real
  >> track machine?
 >
 > Troy, Buellers don't mind other bikes

says you, I've been around Mike and his "lets all bash imports" routine for
so long now....anyway, as long as they don't mind other bikes I might be
game, as long as they don't mind me bringing my "rinky dink" bike if its a
"rinky dink" track.



 >
 > Seriously, no, it wouldn't be a problem. Dyna will be there with his R1,
 > Matt(my nephew) will be there with his GSXR600, And a couple of guys I've
 > started riding with, on a Ducati 749(I think), and some Honda crotch
 > rocket.
 >
 > The guy trying to organize this thing (Daves is his badweb handle) is in
 > to sportbikes in general. He just happens to ride a demo XB12R, and work
 > at
 > Appleton Harley Davidson.
 >
 > I really hope you can make it.

keep me posted.

 >
 > Now over the winter, I gotta get myself a set of leathers, boots, good
 > gloves, a Snell approved helmet(yes, I do wear a helmet 99% of the time
 > on the street, it's just one of them flip up face ones, just not Snell
 > approved), and a good set of tires. I do have some "race" Dunlops that
 > came with the bike(previous owner did some track days), just not sure if
 > there is enough "meat" on 'em.
 >
 > I think I may also swap on the "spare" bodywork for the track(much worse
 > shape than what I have on the bike) that I picked up off ebay for $150

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On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:51:26 +0000, Troy the Troll wrote:

   >>> I noticed that the place mentioned is Blackhawk farms ( yeech...here we
   >>> go
   >>> with rinky dinks again ), but it looks like they are still argueing about
   >>> the time and date?
  >>
  >> Trying to rent Road America was talked about also, if we get enough people
  >> to sign up, that may just happen. But, according to the guys who do a lot
  >> of track time, Blackhawk is suited quite well to the Buells. Not a ton of
  >> long straights, etc...
 >
 > oh yes...I imagine most rinky dinks are pretty well suited to the Buells,
 > what with their lack of power, heavy weight, poor brakes, etc etc
 > BBWWAAAHHHAAAHHHAA!!

LOL, I knew I could count on at least _ONE_ delusion from ya

 >
 > But hey, Road America now...THAT is a track.

It certainly is. I've been there numberous times for the historic car
races. Watching Ferrari vs Ford is quite enjoyable there, even though the
outcome has always been the GT40s and th Cobras just dominating thr track.


 >
 >
  >>
   >>>
   >>> Since I don't watch BWB unless there is something I'm in the middle of,
   >>> can
   >>> you keep an eye open for me and let me know when everything finalizes?
   >>> I'll
   >>> keep it in mind, my preferences being decent tracks rather than local
   >>> little
   >>> ones, but it looks like they are trying out a Buell BWB only
   >>> event....would
   >>> they mind me tagging along with my rinky dink track bike rather than my
   >>> real
   >>> track machine?
  >>
  >> Troy, Buellers don't mind other bikes
 >
 > says you, I've been around Mike and his "lets all bash imports" routine for
 > so long now....anyway, as long as they don't mind other bikes I might be
 > game, as long as they don't mind me bringing my "rinky dink" bike if its a
 > "rinky dink" track.

Naah, they don't mind. Hell, i was applauded for inviting some more riders
on the crud run. One Duc, One baby gixxer, and one Honda. Hell, those
three also asked when the next ride was, and are excited to go. nice guys.
It's not about the bike. It's about the ride and destination. We were
jokin' to the Duc rider, that he finally gets to ride with a group, and
not be the loudest bike

 >
 >
 >
  >>
  >> Seriously, no, it wouldn't be a problem. Dyna will be there with his R1,
  >> Matt(my nephew) will be there with his GSXR600, And a couple of guys I've
  >> started riding with, on a Ducati 749(I think), and some Honda crotch
  >> rocket.
  >>
  >> The guy trying to organize this thing (Daves is his badweb handle) is in
  >> to sportbikes in general. He just happens to ride a demo XB12R, and work
  >> at
  >> Appleton Harley Davidson.
  >>
  >> I really hope you can make it.
 >
 > keep me posted.

I certainly will. I may even letcha ride my Buell on the track, that is if
you can handle it Bwaaahahaah!(see I can add my OWN delusions ).

 >
  >>
  >> Now over the winter, I gotta get myself a set of leathers, boots, good
  >> gloves, a Snell approved helmet(yes, I do wear a helmet 99% of the time
  >> on the street, it's just one of them flip up face ones, just not Snell
  >> approved), and a good set of tires. I do have some "race" Dunlops that
  >> came with the bike(previous owner did some track days), just not sure if
  >> there is enough "meat" on 'em.
  >>
  >> I think I may also swap on the "spare" bodywork for the track(much worse
  >> shape than what I have on the bike) that I picked up off ebay for $150
 >
 > you plan on coming out to the track as well?

If everything goes right, yes. While takin' a ride to the local frozen
custard place tonight, I've also though of upgrading the shifter(the stock
one is pretty sloppy after 13K), and relocating the pegs. They are a tad
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On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:51:26 GMT, "Troy the Troll" <f4boy.TakeThisOut@comcast.net>
wrote:

   >>> I noticed that the place mentioned is Blackhawk farms ( yeech...here we
   >>> go
   >>> with rinky dinks again ), but it looks like they are still argueing about
   >>> the time and date?
  >>
  >> Trying to rent Road America was talked about also, if we get enough people
  >> to sign up, that may just happen. But, according to the guys who do a lot
  >> of track time, Blackhawk is suited quite well to the Buells. Not a ton of
  >> long straights, etc...
 >
 >oh yes...I imagine most rinky dinks are pretty well suited to the Buells,
 >what with their lack of power, heavy weight, poor brakes, etc etc
 >BBWWAAAHHHAAAHHHAA!!
 >
 >But hey, Road America now...THAT is a track.

OK Troy let me get this straight now it has to be a huge track? The
guy is going to a track day. He will learn, he will become a better
rider. So some tracks have long straights. What skill will you gain
on those long straights? If you can't turn what is the sense? I mean
that is the most important aspect of riding correct? Anybody can go
fast straight.


 >
 >
  >>
   >>>
   >>> Since I don't watch BWB unless there is something I'm in the middle of,
   >>> can
   >>> you keep an eye open for me and let me know when everything finalizes?
   >>> I'll
   >>> keep it in mind, my preferences being decent tracks rather than local
   >>> little
   >>> ones, but it looks like they are trying out a Buell BWB only
   >>> event....would
   >>> they mind me tagging along with my rinky dink track bike rather than my
   >>> real
   >>> track machine?
  >>
  >> Troy, Buellers don't mind other bikes
 >
 >says you, I've been around Mike and his "lets all bash imports" routine for
 >so long now....anyway, as long as they don't mind other bikes I might be
 >game, as long as they don't mind me bringing my "rinky dink" bike if its a
 >"rinky dink" track.


Troy I have been bashing imports (And its owners):-)long before I
owned a Buell. One of my riding buddies rides an old Kawi. Nothing
wrong with that. Do not judge an entire group of rider because of one
individual. I am very pro American hence my negitive opinions about
import junk in the past. I am coming around though.
 >
 >
 >
  >>
  >> Seriously, no, it wouldn't be a problem. Dyna will be there with his R1,
  >> Matt(my nephew) will be there with his GSXR600, And a couple of guys I've
  >> started riding with, on a Ducati 749(I think), and some Honda crotch
  >> rocket.
  >>
  >> The guy trying to organize this thing (Daves is his badweb handle) is in
  >> to sportbikes in general. He just happens to ride a demo XB12R, and work
  >> at
  >> Appleton Harley Davidson.
  >>
  >> I really hope you can make it.
 >
 >keep me posted.

Heck I may go myself.



Regards
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 > On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:51:26 GMT, "Troy the Troll" <f4boy RemoveThis @comcast.net>
  >>
  >>keep me posted.
 >
 > Heck I may go myself.
 >
 >

You'll dig it.


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 >From: mfell

 > If you can't turn what is the sense? I mean
 >that is the most important aspect of riding correct? Anybody can go
 >fast straight.

Yeah, but not everybody can haul the beasts down in minimal time to take the
upcoming corner gracefully. It is an art. One that I'll likely never attain.
But let me and Coleman get these track weened wussies out to WV where men are
men and their buck toothed sisters know it! Then we'll create a proper pecking
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  > >But hey, Road America now...THAT is a track.
 >
 > OK Troy let me get this straight now it has to be a huge
track?

No. I like big, fast, national caliber tracks but I'll even
ride rinky dinks.


 > The
 > guy is going to a track day. He will learn, he will become
a better
 > rider. So some tracks have long straights. What skill
will you gain
 > on those long straights?

Not much. What you learn is how good your brakes are at the
end of the straight, straights are boring, straights are for
guys with big fast bikes who can't corner...you see it on
the street all the time.


 >If you can't turn what is the sense? I mean
 > that is the most important aspect of riding correct?
Anybody can go
 > fast straight.

yup. I want to go to Road America because I've never been
there...and its another AMA track I would like to collect.
Barber, now THAT was an interesting place for non
literbikes....and I bet Buells would do okay there.


   > >>
   > >> I really hope you can make it.
  > >
  > >keep me posted.
 >
 > Heck I may go myself.


Mike, if you show up I will make a special effort to hoof it
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"Troy the Troll" <f4boy DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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 >
   >> >But hey, Road America now...THAT is a track.
  >>
  >> OK Troy let me get this straight now it has to be a huge
 > track?
 >
 > No. I like big, fast, national caliber tracks but I'll even
 > ride rinky dinks.
 >
 >
  >> The
  >> guy is going to a track day. He will learn, he will become
 > a better
  >> rider. So some tracks have long straights. What skill
 > will you gain
  >> on those long straights?
 >
 > Not much. What you learn is how good your brakes are at the
 > end of the straight, straights are boring, straights are for
 > guys with big fast bikes who can't corner...you see it on
 > the street all the time.
 >
 >
  >>If you can't turn what is the sense? I mean
  >> that is the most important aspect of riding correct?
 > Anybody can go
  >> fast straight.
 >
 > yup. I want to go to Road America because I've never been
 > there...and its another AMA track I would like to collect.
 > Barber, now THAT was an interesting place for non
 > literbikes....and I bet Buells would do okay there.
 >
 >
   >> >>
   >> >> I really hope you can make it.
   >> >
   >> >keep me posted.
  >>
  >> Heck I may go myself.
 >
 >
 > Mike, if you show up I will make a special effort to hoof it
 > on out there with the mighty mite.
 >
 >

Come further west...
Portland Int'l. I'll make it a mission to attend.
Don't bring the mite Troy, you'll want the gixxer there.
Bannon's been talking 3/4 liter now too.


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  > >....anyway, as long as they don't mind other bikes I
might be
  > > game, as long as they don't mind me bringing my "rinky
dink" bike if its a
  > > "rinky dink" track.
 >
 > Naah, they don't mind. Hell, i was applauded for inviting
some more riders
 > on the crud run. One Duc, One baby gixxer, and one Honda.
Hell, those
 > three also asked when the next ride was, and are excited
to go. nice guys.
 > It's not about the bike. It's about the ride and
destination.

yeah...but you live in Cheeseland. You have to ride like
1000 miles to see ANYTHING.....so....did you go that far, or
just cruise around dairyfarms and stuff?



   > >> I really hope you can make it.
  > >
  > > keep me posted.
 >
 > I certainly will. I may even letcha ride my Buell on the
track, that is if
 > you can handle it Bwaaahahaah!(see I can add my OWN
delusions ).

I don't know how that would work. I'm used to good brakes if
not exceptional ones, fine, smooth, useable power, good
handling, and sticky tires. Except for maybe sticky tires,
it would require a thoroughly reworked Buell to meet even
the basic trackday qualifications!


  > > you plan on coming out to the track as well?
 >
 > If everything goes right, yes. While takin' a ride to the
local frozen
 > custard place tonight, I've also though of upgrading the
shifter(the stock
 > one is pretty sloppy after 13K), and relocating the pegs.
They are a tad
 > too low for rapid twisties IMHO.

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On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:54:28 +0000, Troy the Troll wrote:

   >> >....anyway, as long as they don't mind other bikes I
 > might be
   >> > game, as long as they don't mind me bringing my "rinky
 > dink" bike if its a
   >> > "rinky dink" track.
  >>
  >> Naah, they don't mind. Hell, i was applauded for inviting
 > some more riders
  >> on the crud run. One Duc, One baby gixxer, and one Honda.
 > Hell, those
  >> three also asked when the next ride was, and are excited
 > to go. nice guys.
  >> It's not about the bike. It's about the ride and
 > destination.
 >
 > yeah...but you live in Cheeseland. You have to ride like
 > 1000 miles to see ANYTHING.....so....did you go that far, or
 > just cruise around dairyfarms and stuff?

About 370 miles on Sunday. Plenty of good twisties out in Sauk county. One
road though, I swear there were more tar snakes then there was original
asphault.

 >
 >
 >
   >> >> I really hope you can make it.
   >> >
   >> > keep me posted.
  >>
  >> I certainly will. I may even letcha ride my Buell on the
 > track, that is if
  >> you can handle it Bwaaahahaah!(see I can add my OWN
 > delusions ).
 >
 > I don't know how that would work. I'm used to good brakes if
 > not exceptional ones

100 MPH Stoppies are easily obtainable with stock Buell brakes and EBC
pads.

 > fine, smooth, useable power, good
 > handling, and sticky tires. Except for maybe sticky tires,
 > it would require a thoroughly reworked Buell to meet even
 > the basic trackday qualifications!

No, not at all. The last time you've ridden a Buell, have you noticed any
handling or braking problems? Oh wait, you've never ridden one Did you
not read the review in here on the XB9R from inlaw biker? Saying how it
handled better than he thought it would?


 >
 >
   >> > you plan on coming out to the track as well?
  >>
  >> If everything goes right, yes. While takin' a ride to the
 > local frozen
  >> custard place tonight, I've also though of upgrading the
 > shifter(the stock
  >> one is pretty sloppy after 13K), and relocating the pegs.
 > They are a tad
  >> too low for rapid twisties IMHO.
 >
 > Well, a track only makes that worse.

Yup. I gots some machining to do over the winter. New shifter, peg
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