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Yannick

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:55 am
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Just come back from riding "Black Spur" ... famous Aussie twisty road
through forest.
I have to say it was fastest I have done it and I put it down to Michelin
Pilot Powers. Felt very confidence inspiring. I am sure the other four
other riders on that road today who saw me blast by would agree. But those
tires... yeah...

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:45 am
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"Yannick" <yann452.DeleteThis@wandoo.fr> wrote in message
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> Just come back from riding "Black Spur" ... famous Aussie twisty road
> through forest.
> I have to say it was fastest I have done it and I put it down to Michelin
> Pilot Powers. Felt very confidence inspiring. I am sure the other four
> other riders on that road today who saw me blast by would agree. But those
> tires... yeah...

You ain't the only one saying good things about them. I might have to go
snag a pair for the streetbike after my current supply runs out.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:55 pm
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"Yannick" <yann452.RemoveThis@wandoo.fr> wrote in message
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> Just come back from riding "Black Spur" ... famous Aussie twisty road
> through forest.
> I have to say it was fastest I have done it and I put it down to Michelin
> Pilot Powers. Felt very confidence inspiring. I am sure the other four
> other riders on that road today who saw me blast by would agree. But those
> tires... yeah...
>

Got 'em on the Tuono. 5000 miles as of last weekend, and I can say without
a doubt they are the finest tires I've ever ridden. Stick like glue, wear
better than my Dunloaf 208's, and warm up times are practically zero. Just
ignore the odd mold stripe running in the direction of rotation.

I would buy them again without hesitation. I've been flogging the pee out
of them and the rear still looks like it could go another 2-3 K.

DaveR
03 Tuono
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:55 am
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Which way where you heading? I like heading to Marysville the better way.
I too like the Pilot Powers on my ZX9.
Haven't look back since changing from Bridgies. Better lean angle and heat
up quicker.

"Yannick" <yann452 DeleteThis @wandoo.fr> wrote in message
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> Just come back from riding "Black Spur" ... famous Aussie twisty road
> through forest.
> I have to say it was fastest I have done it and I put it down to Michelin
> Pilot Powers. Felt very confidence inspiring. I am sure the other four
> other riders on that road today who saw me blast by would agree. But those
> tires... yeah...
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:55 am
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"Irishmail" <irishmail.DeleteThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> Which way where you heading? I like heading to Marysville the better way.

The better way? I go always thru Healsville.

> I too like the Pilot Powers on my ZX9.
> Haven't look back since changing from Bridgies.

What did you have? BT020??

Better lean angle and heat
> up quicker.
>
> "Yannick" <yann452.DeleteThis@wandoo.fr> wrote in message
> news:GV4_e.15832$0E5.14869@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Just come back from riding "Black Spur" ... famous Aussie twisty road
>> through forest.
>> I have to say it was fastest I have done it and I put it down to Michelin
>> Pilot Powers. Felt very confidence inspiring. I am sure the other four
>> other riders on that road today who saw me blast by would agree. But
>> those tires... yeah...
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:04 am
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_Bob_Nixon wrote:

> My advise and no offense to Krusty but by all his own accounts here,
> he rides his bikes like your's or my grand-mother might.

Oh, so now you're trying to be nice to Krusty, after all these years!

I would bet that there are grandmothers somewhere that ride *faster*
than I do.

When I was a kid, a grandmother was a sweet old white-haired lady with
glasses that fed kids cookies and milk. I don't remember my grandma,
she died when I was less than a year old.

Nowadays, a teenage daughter could have a daughter at 15 and she could
have a daughter at 15 and bingo!, you could have a 31 year old grandma
on a sportbike terrorizing the canyons.

I was a canyon crazy for a while myself. I had my choice of several
canyons in the San Gabriels and the Santa Monicas and the Hollyweird
Hills to ride *every day* and I took my share of risks and terrorized
the cagers with my bad attitude.

Two minor accidents and the onset of cold weather at the end of 1984
saved my life. I was riding like a lunatic up to that time, but I wised
up a bit. Then another rider told me that if I really liked riding that
fast, I should take up road racing. So I did that for a season and
decided that I would rather see Egypt and Greece and do the Grand Tour
of Europe. Visiting the Caribbean, Panama, Spain, Portugal and Morocco
kept me busy, too, there wasn't much time for going canyon crazy again
between work and international travelling.

When I finally bought a modern state of the art sport bike a few years
later, I was very impressed with the handling and performance. But, by
that time, I was planning to do sport touring instead of flying to
foreign countries all the time.

I wore out the OEM tires and went to sport touring tires and accepted
the reduced cornering traction, as a reasonable trade off for tire
mileage so I definitely do slow down for the corners now.

Sometimes I even get off the motorbike and walk around on my hind legs
and look at the scenery I used to race past. It's really amazing to see
what's up there in the San Gabriel mountains if you're walking instead
trying to blitz the apexes.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:55 pm
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_Bob_Nixon wrote:

> My advise and no offense to Krusty but by all his own accounts here,
> he rides his bikes like your's or my grand-mother might.

My grandmother rode a Norton and would get sparks coming off the
mufflers on gravel roads.........Grandfathers leather jacket had 'Die
Happy' written in studs across the back.

Just because people are old, don't assume they haven't lived.......
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:31 pm
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Brian wrote:

> Lets hope your grandkids get to say, "I ride like my grandpa!".....
>
> "singing to the choir"...I lkie it.

The correct cliche' is "preaching to the choir."
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krusty kritter

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:23 pm
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_Bob_Nixon wrote:
> On 28 Sep 2005 11:04:24 -0700, "krusty kritter" <kriyamanna.TakeThisOut@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >_Bob_Nixon wrote:
> >
> >> My advise and no offense to Krusty but by all his own accounts here,
> >> he rides his bikes like your's or my grand-mother might.
> >
> >Oh, so now you're trying to be nice to Krusty, after all these years!
>
> For several months now!

What I was wondering from the moment I read that you didn't intend any
"offense to Krusty" was what the heck my very sedate riding style had
to do with the subject of Michelin Pilot Power tires. How did I get
involved?

I've never had a Michelin tire that I thought was worth a damn, so I
haven't been touting or bashing them, nor have I been recommending
Bridgestones. I don't particularly like them either, only having had
one Bridgestone BT-020 rear tire that I thought was a decent tire for
the use I bought it for, i.e., trying to catch up with a foxy
grandma...
>
> >I would bet that there are grandmothers somewhere that ride *faster*
> >than I do.
>
> No doubt but whenever you make some sanctimonious comment about
> speeding on public roads you usually jump in about stopping to smell
> the flowers atop some SOCAL mountain or tell the story about punching
> out some cage driver for passing you unsafely.

Hey, I'll have you know that I completed probation successfully and
haven't been incarcerated for nearly 30 years!
>
> If you've even bothered to watch any of my "on-board" videos you can
> see right away, that we don't do anything REALLY crazy and ride where
> the traffic is much lighter than your own SOCAL haunts.

Takes too long to download videos with this old box.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:29 am
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> Yannick wrote:
>
>> This is where we need to get a bit more specific. The P Powers are one
>> tire reknowned for being good in the wet - and I mean exceptionally
>> good. I don't have the detailed study to quote right here, but I would
>> be surprised if a BT020 could out-stick a PP in the wet. Michelin
>> website (at least French one) has complete test results for both wet
>> and dry and I have never seen such good wet condition figures. I know
>> from experience that my old Pilot Sport tires were quite a way behind
>> these.

I've only done short rides in mildly wet weather on my current PPs. They
did fine, but I need more saddle time in such conditions before I can
give them an unconditional blessing. 020s get that blessing. Maybe later
I'll post my video bebopping around on them in the slush during winter.
I will admit I am a big fan of the PPs so far. They are FAR AND AWAY the
best Michelin I've ever experienced and if they continue to hold up wear
wise I may concede that they're my favorite tire ever.

>> But for my city commuting and ocasional blasts through forest areas I
>> feel that PP is looking quite good for me.

For the track or serious backroad action I'd take the PPs too. But
unless their durability ends up knocking my socks off, for a purely
commuter bike I'd definitely go with 020s. As an all around tire they
are pretty darned hard to beat.

>> If I am to be honest, (and not many people are in NGs!) I would have
>> to admit that I am rich enough to spend whatever money is needed to
>> keep my precious skin from meeting misfortune. I don't hunt for
>> bargains, I have enough money and I don't really care if I throw away
>> a bit of rubber, I just want to maximize my time staying upright.
>

I have no vested interest in Bridgestone, nor do I pretend to know
what's best for you. I just wanted you (and others) to realize that ST
tires in general and 020s in particular are highly unlikely to let you
down in any backroad/commuter situation, they return excellent mileage,
and are about as low priced as any rim protector you can find for
standard 17" sportbike rims.

>> (ps I hope that my English is not too garbled...)

Your English is superb.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:55 am
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<saddlebag.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> Yannick wrote:
>>
>>> This is where we need to get a bit more specific. The P Powers are one
>>> tire reknowned for being good in the wet - and I mean exceptionally
>>> good. I don't have the detailed study to quote right here, but I would
>>> be surprised if a BT020 could out-stick a PP in the wet. Michelin
>>> website (at least French one) has complete test results for both wet and
>>> dry and I have never seen such good wet condition figures. I know from
>>> experience that my old Pilot Sport tires were quite a way behind these.
>
> I've only done short rides in mildly wet weather on my current PPs. They
> did fine, but I need more saddle time in such conditions before I can
> give them an unconditional blessing. 020s get that blessing. Maybe later
> I'll post my video bebopping around on them in the slush during winter.
> I will admit I am a big fan of the PPs so far. They are FAR AND AWAY the
> best Michelin I've ever experienced and if they continue to hold up wear
> wise I may concede that they're my favorite tire ever.
>
>>> But for my city commuting and ocasional blasts through forest areas I
>>> feel that PP is looking quite good for me.
>
> For the track or serious backroad action I'd take the PPs too. But
> unless their durability ends up knocking my socks off, for a purely
> commuter bike I'd definitely go with 020s. As an all around tire they
> are pretty darned hard to beat.
>
>>> If I am to be honest, (and not many people are in NGs!) I would have to
>>> admit that I am rich enough to spend whatever money is needed to keep my
>>> precious skin from meeting misfortune. I don't hunt for bargains, I have
>>> enough money and I don't really care if I throw away a bit of rubber, I
>>> just want to maximize my time staying upright.
>>
>
> I have no vested interest in Bridgestone, nor do I pretend to know
> what's best for you. I just wanted you (and others) to realize that ST
> tires in general and 020s in particular are highly unlikely to let you
> down in any backroad/commuter situation, they return excellent mileage,
> and are about as low priced as any rim protector you can find for
> standard 17" sportbike rims.

Well, quite simply, I look forward to fitting some and checking them out
after I have finished with the PPs. Give me 6 months! This has certainly
been a useful thread, thanks for info.

>
>>> (ps I hope that my English is not too garbled...)
>
> Your English is superb.
I will print this and show it to my teacher. (I am currently stuggling to do
a Batchelor of Letters at local university here part time and I often feel
that I am the dunce of the class!)
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:55 am
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I just got a set of Power Pilots for my R1. Awesome deal $238 shipped to
me. But it appears that buy deal is not there anymore. If anyone is
interested I got them from Flat-Out motorsports. 317-882-2453

Andy
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86 VFR750
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