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entwisi

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Since: May 07, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:27 pm Post subject: Patent/invention Question Archived from groups: uk>rec>motorcycles (more info?)

I woke up this morning with one of those eureka moments. You know where you suddenly think why the hell hasn't someone invented X. So my question is where do I go from here. I guess I need to make sure that no one_has_thought of it before. After that what? Patent it? How much does this cost? Any alternatives? How about approaching a company with the idea. How can I stop them nicking it and making it anyway? Any experiences? -- Entwisi FBOTY#2003 PIT#3(KoTL) Honda XL1000V Varadero 'The Big V' Yam YB100 >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

Doesnotcompute

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Entwisi asked: >Any experiences? <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.google.com" target="_blank">www.google.com</a> -- Dnc<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:27:58 GMT, entwisi scrawled: > I woke up this morning with one of those eureka moments. You know where > you suddenly think why the hell hasn't someone invented X. So my > question is where do I go from here. I guess I need to make sure that no > one_has_thought of it before. After that what? Patent it? How much does > this cost? Any alternatives? How about approaching a company with the > idea. How can I stop them nicking it and making it anyway? > I dunno if patent law has changed in recent years, but from what I can remember, once something is patented, anyone can look at the designs in the patent - then once it runs out in 17 years or so, it's whoever gets back to the patent office first with the application that gets it. There's another thing called the trade secrets act (if it's not patented), which prevents people from nicking your idea, but will not protect you against someone else coming up with exactly the same idea totally independantly from you. A patent will protect you from the latter, but the former is possible as people will have access to your design specs. -- VFR400 nc30 - Wheee! <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.noddingdogs.org" target="_blank">http://www.noddingdogs.org</a> - find bikers in your area. Visit <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.rexx.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.rexx.co.uk</a> to email me.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Doesnotcompute wrote: > Entwisi asked: > >> Any experiences? > <font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.google.com</font" target="_blank">www.google.com</font</a>> You invented that? My god man, you could be rich! -- Steve "Slider" '02 YZF-R6<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"entwisi" <entwisi DeleteThis @dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message news:pan.2004.06.18.12.27.53.470363@dsl.pipex.com... > I woke up this morning with one of those eureka moments. You know where > you suddenly think why the hell hasn't someone invented X. So my question > is where do I go from here. I guess I need to make sure that no > one_has_thought of it before. After that what? Patent it? How much does > this cost? Any alternatives? How about approaching a company with the > idea. How can I stop them nicking it and making it anyway? If I remember later when I get home I'll point you at some patent research sites and a patent researcher (a mate) if you're really serious.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:31:55 +0100, porl wrote: > > "entwisi" <entwisi.DeleteThis@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message > news:pan.2004.06.18.12.27.53.470363@dsl.pipex.com... >> I woke up this morning with one of those eureka moments. You know where >> you suddenly think why the hell hasn't someone invented X. So my question >> is where do I go from here. I guess I need to make sure that no >> one_has_thought of it before. After that what? Patent it? How much does >> this cost? Any alternatives? How about approaching a company with the >> idea. How can I stop them nicking it and making it anyway? > > If I remember later when I get home I'll point you at some patent research > sites and a patent researcher (a mate) if you're really serious. It may sound daft but I don't want to spend a fortune on this if possible.I know all the best inventions probably nearly bankrupted the inventor before making then multi millionaires but I don't want that risk, a small commision would be good. Cheers anyway. I'm off to see what google throws up, I just thought ukrm is the sort of place that someone would have done this sort of thing -- Entwisi FBOTY#2003 PIT#3(KoTL) Honda XL1000V Varadero 'The Big V' Yam YB100<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"entwisi" <entwisi.DeleteThis@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message news:pan.2004.06.18.12.27.53.470363@dsl.pipex.com... > I woke up this morning with one of those eureka moments. You know where > you suddenly think why the hell hasn't someone invented X. So my question > is where do I go from here. I guess I need to make sure that no > one_has_thought of it before. After that what? Patent it? How much does > this cost? Any alternatives? How about approaching a company with the > idea. How can I stop them nicking it and making it anyway? <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.patent.gov.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.patent.gov.uk/</a> -- cane@work<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

entwisi <entwisi.RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com> somehow managed to post: >I woke up this morning with one of those eureka moments. <snip> Is this a patent for the correct time stamping of USENET posts? -- HooDooWitch (NaCl - Free) <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/51251.html" target="_blank">http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/51251.html</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

HooDooWitch wrote: > entwisi <entwisi RemoveThis @dsl.pipex.com> somehow managed to post: > >> I woke up this morning with one of those eureka moments. <snip> > > Is this a patent for the correct time stamping of USENET posts? Time machine obviously, he's testing it out.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

Grimly Curmudgeon2

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember entwisi <entwisi DeleteThis @dsl.pipex.com> saying something like: >I woke up this morning with one of those eureka moments. You know where >you suddenly think why the hell hasn't someone invented X. So my question >is where do I go from here. I guess I need to make sure that no >one_has_thought of it before. After that what? Patent it? How much does >this cost? Any alternatives? How about approaching a company with the >idea. How can I stop them nicking it and making it anyway? > > >Any experiences? The Biggest Tip of the Lot... DON'T TELL ANY FUCKER WHAT IT IS UNTIL YOU HAVE THE PATENT IN YOUR MITT. (apart from your patent agent, of course) -- Dave GS 850 x2 / SE 6a SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3 FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:27:58 +0000, entwisi <entwisi.RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: >I woke up this morning with one of those eureka moments. You know where >you suddenly think why the hell hasn't someone invented X. So my question >is where do I go from here. I guess I need to make sure that no >one_has_thought of it before. After that what? Patent it? How much does >this cost? Any alternatives? How about approaching a company with the >idea. How can I stop them nicking it and making it anyway? Just put all the details up here and we'll let you know if it's worthwhile. -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) GSX-R1000K3, CB400F2 BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, BOTCdV#1<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

entwisi secured a place in history by writing: > Any experiences? Write it down in detail, put it in a sealed envelope (possibly two or three) and post it to yourself recorded delivery. But if it's really good you should patent it. -- F<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

entwisi

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:30:55 +0100, dwb wrote: > HooDooWitch wrote: >> entwisi <entwisi RemoveThis @dsl.pipex.com> somehow managed to post: >> >>> I woke up this morning with one of those eureka moments. <snip> >> >> Is this a patent for the correct time stamping of USENET posts? > > Time machine obviously, he's testing it out. You I know this is a bit weird because my PC clock says 14:31 as I post this, the setting is BST but whenever I post it seems to 'add' one hour onto the posts. I haven't had chance to do any in depth investigation but hope to this weekend. -- Entwisi FBOTY#2003 PIT#3(KoTL) Honda XL1000V Varadero 'The Big V' Yam YB100<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"entwisi" <entwisi.DeleteThis@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message news:pan.2004.06.18.14.31.12.422721@dsl.pipex.com... > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:30:55 +0100, dwb wrote: > > > HooDooWitch wrote: > >> entwisi <entwisi.DeleteThis@dsl.pipex.com> somehow managed to post: > >> > >>> I woke up this morning with one of those eureka moments. <snip> > >> > >> Is this a patent for the correct time stamping of USENET posts? > > > > Time machine obviously, he's testing it out. > > You I know this is a bit weird because my PC clock says 14:31 as I post > this, the setting is BST but whenever I post it seems to 'add' one hour > onto the posts. I haven't had chance to do any in depth investigation but > hope to this weekend. > You're just trying to cover up so we don't nick your time machine idea.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: Patent/invention Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

flash@work wrote: >> > > You're just trying to cover up so we don't nick your time machine > idea. I guess it has some flaws though otherwise he'd be able to go back and change the post so we wouldn't know.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Patent/invention Question

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