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(Msg. 31) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:35 pm
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In article <d10e59f9-9ed5-4eb3-9333-48103c77f3cc DeleteThis @y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, darsy wrote:
> On Dec 11, 7:23 am, guig <g... DeleteThis @yerawathame.com> wrote:
>> On 2007-12-10 14:39:59 +0000, darsy <dar... DeleteThis @gmail.com> said:
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> The problem I have with Hamilton is that, whilst he can tell a great
> yarn, he can't really write English very well.
His new one is quite good. But (as you say) - it's sometimes quite
difficult to work out what he is *actually* trying to say..
I've read all the Richard Morgan books too - all very good (very
violent too) and quite dark.
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:14 pm
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On Dec 11, 7:29 pm, "Simian" <simian.TakeThisOut@in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
> darsy wrote:
> > > Only two of his books are really up to scratch: The Star Fraction,
> > > and Learning The World; both of them are 'ideas' based books,
> > > rather than particularly character or plot based. The Stone Canal
> > > is OK I suppose, but I probably won't bother re-reading any of his
> > > others.
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> > I disagree, but hey.
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> Hmmm? I what way?
I disagree thay only two of McLeod's books are "up to scratch".
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:29 pm
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darsy wrote:
> > Only two of his books are really up to scratch: The Star Fraction,
> > and Learning The World; both of them are 'ideas' based books,
> > rather than particularly character or plot based. The Stone Canal
> > is OK I suppose, but I probably won't bother re-reading any of his
> > others.
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> I disagree, but hey.
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:41 pm
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darsy wrote:
> On Dec 10, 2:20 pm, Switters <m....RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote:
> > Given that I loved Accelerando, and much preferred Iron Sunrise over
> > Singularity Sky, where do the other Stross books fit in, IYHO?
>
> I haven't read any of his "Family Trade" fantasy novels - no interest
> in them. The two "Laundry" books - "Atrocity Archives" and "Jennifer
> Morgue" are good - funny spoof lovecraft spy yarns, but not even close
> to being hard SF. "Glasshouse" is of a similar feel to "Accelerando",
> but to me it felt like he was just cracking one out, rather than
> having taken a bit of time over it. "Halting State" looks interesting,
> but I've not read it yet. The short story collection "Toast" is a very
> mixed bag.
>
> > I'm almost done with the "Collapsium qualrology" (first one was my
> > fave so far), and am saving the last 2 John Wright books for xmas.
>
> don't expect any more after that - one of the biggest reading-related
> disapointments I had in years was when I found he'd become a Christian
> and started writing allegorical fantasy with no intention of doing
> more SF.
>
> > Any other recommendations?
>
> Tony Ballantyne's: "Recursion"/"Capacity"/"Divergence" trilogy.
> Ian MacDonald: "River of Gods" and "Brazyl"
> Alastair Reynolds: "Pushing Ice"
> Chris Moriarty: "Spin State"/"Spin Control"
> Robert A. Metzger : "Picoverse"
> Adam Roberts: "Gradisil"
>
> You might like Gregory Benford's "Galactic Center" series, though
> that's a mix of hard SF and space opera.
Also:
Dan Simmons - Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion, and Olympos/Ilium pairs,
although many seem to disagree.
Capacity was fairly good, now I remember it, I may have to buy the next
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:52 pm
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:41:11 -0000, "Simian"
<simian RemoveThis @in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
sci-fi (don't read that much hard sci-fi any more)
>Dan Simmons - Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion,
I've read the first, which was effectively a series of novellas from
different viewpoints. Is the seond more of the same?
> and Olympos/Ilium pairs,
>although many seem to disagree.
It was all right. Apart from Neal Stephenson and Iain M Banks I'm not
big on sci fi.
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:30 pm
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darsy wrote:
> On Dec 11, 7:29 pm, "Simian" <simian.RemoveThis@in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
> > darsy wrote:
> >
> > > I disagree, but hey.
> >
> > Hmmm? I what way?
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> I disagree thay only two of McLeod's books are "up to scratch".
<blood out of stone>
So you think they're all good, or just some.
Hang on - just name the best 2 or 3, in order of quality, not including
the ones I've already mentioned.
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:37 am
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On Dec 11, 10:30 pm, "Simian" <simian DeleteThis @in_valid.semi-evolved.org>
wrote:
> darsy wrote:
> > On Dec 11, 7:29 pm, "Simian" <simian DeleteThis @in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
> > > darsy wrote:
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> > > > I disagree, but hey.
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> > > Hmmm? I what way?
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> > I disagree thay only two of McLeod's books are "up to scratch".
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> <blood out of stone>
>
> So you think they're all good, or just some.
>
> Hang on - just name the best 2 or 3, in order of quality, not including
> the ones I've already mentioned.
I liked all of the "Fall Revolution" series with the exception of "The
Sky Road".
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:38 am
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On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, "Simian" <simian RemoveThis @in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
> Dan Simmons - Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion, and Olympos/Ilium pairs,
> although many seem to disagree.
see, I thought those were shite (well, I only read the first two).
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:27 am
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:29 am
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:10 am
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:41:11 -0000, "Simian"
<simian.TakeThisOut@in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
>Dan Simmons - Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion, and Olympos/Ilium pairs,
>although many seem to disagree.
I preferred Endymion/Rise Of Endymion to the Hyperion Cantos.
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:22 am
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In article <36cbfd5d-8707-42f0-9a32-db14faaebb64 DeleteThis @w40g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, darsy wrote:
> On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, "Simian" <simian DeleteThis @in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
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>> Dan Simmons - Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion, and Olympos/Ilium pairs,
>> although many seem to disagree.
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> see, I thought those were shite (well, I only read the first two).
<AOL>
Too disconnected and random. Not enough in-depth characterisation (and
not enough technology to make up for the lack). A good idea wasted.
Phil.
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:59 am
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:52:48 -0000, "Simian"
<simian DeleteThis @in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
>Actually, the other day I discovered that one of the books I own (The
>Hobbit) I first read over 28 years ago, which made me feel old.
Youi think you've got problems. I know exactly how old my first copy
of The Hobbit is, as I was presented with it at the end of a school
year, when they still did things like that. 39 years ago.
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:16 pm
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:38:36 GMT, darsy <darsyx RemoveThis @gmail.com> allegedly
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> On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, "Simian" <simian RemoveThis @in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
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>> Dan Simmons - Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion, and Olympos/Ilium pairs,
>> although many seem to disagree.
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> see, I thought those were shite (well, I only read the first two).
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:18 pm
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In article <h5jvl3993ka28ctkjj7u6ddbam93cu73tm RemoveThis @4ax.com>, Pip <gingerblok
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>On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:52:48 -0000, "Simian"
><simian RemoveThis @in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
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>>Actually, the other day I discovered that one of the books I own (The
>>Hobbit) I first read over 28 years ago, which made me feel old.
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>Youi think you've got problems. I know exactly how old my first copy
>of The Hobbit is, as I was presented with it at the end of a school
>year, when they still did things like that. 39 years ago.
I didn't read the hobbit until I was in my 30's which was 20 something
years ago and I don't have a copy of it. I do though have the three
volumes in hardback and it has been nearly 45 years since I first read
them. And about 20 since I last did it as well.
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