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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:52 pm
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:51:36 -0000, "Dan White" <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net>
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>"darsy" <darsyx.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Dec 10, 2:20 pm, Switters <m....RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote:
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>> You might like Gregory Benford's "Galactic Center" series, though
>> that's a mix of hard SF and space opera.
>
>Any opinions of the Kevin J Anderson, "Saga of Seven Suns" series? I picked
>up, "Hidden Empire" for 50p in a second hand shop the other day. Halfway
>through it and it seems a little simplistic, but I could persevere. However
>I notice there's 5 or 6 books in the series!
I'm half-way through the series. It's pretty formulaic but reasonably
well written and doesn't tax your brain too much. Standard galactic
space-opera really.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:20 pm
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Switters wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:39:59 GMT, darsy <darsyx RemoveThis @gmail.com> allegedly
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> >> I'm almost done with the "Collapsium qualrology" (first one was my
> >> fave so far), and am saving the last 2 John Wright books for xmas.
> >
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> > Ken McLeod: "Learning the World" (ISTR you're not a McLeod fan)
>
> I get Amazon pushing McLeod in their recommendations, but a) he gets
> very mixed reviews and b) Amazon recommendations are increasingly
> useless. So, so far, I've not ventured there. Must add him to me
> woman's "look out for in charity shops" list.
Only two of his books are really up to scratch: The Star Fraction, and
Learning The World; both of them are 'ideas' based books, rather than
particularly character or plot based. The Stone Canal is OK I suppose,
but I probably won't bother re-reading any of his others.
On the other hand, I found most of Stross' books a bit boys-own for my
tastes, and I loath the Collapsium series - sub-Asimov - so YMMV. I
think Ben once recommended China Mieville's "Perdido Street Station",
which I couldn't have enjoyed less, so if your tastes are that contrary
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:29 pm
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:40 pm
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"Bear" <bastardDOTbear.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article Dr Zoidberg said ...
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>> I've read a couple of his Star Wars novels and they were utter carp.
>
> "Fly fishing" by Han Sole?
Hehehe :0)
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:40 pm
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Champ wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:20:51 +0000 (UTC), Switters <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net>
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>> Any other recommendations?
>
> <thread hijack>
>
> My request for a copy of The Death of Grass was met by a very nice
> lurker. I picked it up the other evening, and read it in two sittings
> - very much a page turner. It absolutely fits the "Comfy Catastrophe"
> of some of Wyndham's books (in fact, it felt exactly like a Wyndham
> book), but apart from the was very enjoyable. I think with an update
> to the present day, it could make a good movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066154/
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:11 pm
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:40:43 GMT, "platypus"
<monotreme.TakeThisOut@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>Champ wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:20:51 +0000 (UTC), Switters <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net>
>> wrote:
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>>> Any other recommendations?
>>
>> <thread hijack>
>>
>> My request for a copy of The Death of Grass was met by a very nice
>> lurker. I picked it up the other evening, and read it in two sittings
>> - very much a page turner. It absolutely fits the "Comfy Catastrophe"
>> of some of Wyndham's books (in fact, it felt exactly like a Wyndham
>> book), but apart from the was very enjoyable. I think with an update
>> to the present day, it could make a good movie.
>
>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066154/
I say. Starring Nigel Davenport, father of Jack Davenport (This Life,
Pirates of the Caribbean), who I've played pool with. Small world.
>IIRC, in the book, the main protagonist kisses two dead guys.
Well,yes, but it's hardly a central plot point.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:20 pm
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Champ wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:40:43 GMT, "platypus"
> <monotreme RemoveThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
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>> Champ wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:20:51 +0000 (UTC), Switters <me RemoveThis @privacy.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any other recommendations?
>>>
>>> <thread hijack>
>>>
>>> My request for a copy of The Death of Grass was met by a very nice
>>> lurker. I picked it up the other evening, and read it in two
>>> sittings - very much a page turner. It absolutely fits the "Comfy
>>> Catastrophe" of some of Wyndham's books (in fact, it felt exactly
>>> like a Wyndham book), but apart from the was very enjoyable. I
>>> think with an update to the present day, it could make a good movie.
>>
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066154/
>
> I say. Starring Nigel Davenport, father of Jack Davenport (This Life,
> Pirates of the Caribbean), who I've played pool with. Small world.
Pahnd. <IMDBs> Well, fifty pee.
>> IIRC, in the book, the main protagonist kisses two dead guys.
>
> Well,yes, but it's hardly a central plot point.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:17 am
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On Dec 10, 8:20 pm, "Simian" <simian.RemoveThis@in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
> Switters wrote:
> > I get Amazon pushing McLeod in their recommendations, but a) he gets
> > very mixed reviews and b) Amazon recommendations are increasingly
> > useless. So, so far, I've not ventured there. Must add him to me
> > woman's "look out for in charity shops" list.
>
> Only two of his books are really up to scratch: The Star Fraction, and
> Learning The World; both of them are 'ideas' based books, rather than
> particularly character or plot based. The Stone Canal is OK I suppose,
> but I probably won't bother re-reading any of his others.
I disagree, but hey.
> On the other hand, I found most of Stross' books a bit boys-own for my
> tastes, and I loath the Collapsium series - sub-Asimov - so YMMV. I
> think Ben once recommended China Mieville's "Perdido Street Station",
> which I couldn't have enjoyed less, so if your tastes are that contrary
> to mine, maybe you'll like it.
I thought Perdido Street Station was "OK" at best. There are lots of
similar, but much better writers.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:23 am
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On Dec 11, 7:23 am, guig <g....TakeThisOut@yerawathame.com> wrote:
> On 2007-12-10 14:39:59 +0000, darsy <dar....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> said:
> > Tony Ballantyne's: "Recursion"/"Capacity"/"Divergence" trilogy.
> > Ian MacDonald: "River of Gods" and "Brazyl"
> > Alastair Reynolds: "Pushing Ice"
> > Chris Moriarty: "Spin State"/"Spin Control"
> > Robert A. Metzger : "Picoverse"
> > Adam Roberts: "Gradisil"
>
> Haven't read any of the rest but can recommend the Alastair Reynolds
> books. I've also been plowing through the Peter Hamilton books.
Agree about Reynolds - I'd recommend them all, but that was just the
one I'd read most recently.
The problem I have with Hamilton is that, whilst he can tell a great
yarn, he can't really write English very well.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:23 am
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:40 am
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:43:22 GMT, darsy <darsyx DeleteThis @sticky.co.uk> allegedly
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> Wright[1]. McCarthy's actually formed a company and filed patents with
> a view to try and get wellstone actually made (his non fiction book
> "Hacking Matter" covers what's been done so far in this field).
Good idea... no point anyone else making the money from it. He should hurry
up and move onto the fax plates though.
> [1] I find it a struggle to reconcile the themes in The Golden Age
> with this nonsense:
> http://johncwright.livejournal.com/59241.html
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:43 am
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:20:47 GMT, "Simian" <simian RemoveThis @in_valid.semi-
evolved.org> allegedly wrote:
> On the other hand, I found most of Stross' books a bit boys-own for my
> tastes, and I loath the Collapsium series - sub-Asimov - so YMMV. I
I've enjoyed the Collapsium books, but for me, the first one was the best
(I've not read the 4th yet though). The second one being my least
favourite.
> think Ben once recommended China Mieville's "Perdido Street Station",
> which I couldn't have enjoyed less, so if your tastes are that contrary
> to mine, maybe you'll like it.
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:19 am
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darsy <darsyx.DeleteThis@gmail.com> writes:
> On Dec 10, 8:20 pm, "Simian" <simian.DeleteThis@in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
>> Switters wrote:
>> > I get Amazon pushing McLeod in their recommendations, but a) he gets
>> > very mixed reviews and b) Amazon recommendations are increasingly
>> > useless. So, so far, I've not ventured there. Must add him to me
>> > woman's "look out for in charity shops" list.
>>
>> Only two of his books are really up to scratch: The Star Fraction, and
>> Learning The World; both of them are 'ideas' based books, rather than
>> particularly character or plot based. The Stone Canal is OK I suppose,
>> but I probably won't bother re-reading any of his others.
>
> I disagree, but hey.
>
>> On the other hand, I found most of Stross' books a bit boys-own for my
>> tastes, and I loath the Collapsium series - sub-Asimov - so YMMV. I
>> think Ben once recommended China Mieville's "Perdido Street Station",
>> which I couldn't have enjoyed less, so if your tastes are that contrary
>> to mine, maybe you'll like it.
>
> I thought Perdido Street Station was "OK" at best. There are lots of
> similar, but much better writers.
AOL, I gave up after about 1/3 of the book.
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:35 am
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In article <_MadnY40_dtS8MDaRVnygwA.DeleteThis@pipex.net>, Dan White wrote:
> "darsy" <darsyx.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:14d74cf9-cdda-4315-a8c5-7bcf09483c09@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 10, 2:20 pm, Switters <m....DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>> You might like Gregory Benford's "Galactic Center" series, though
>> that's a mix of hard SF and space opera.
>
> Any opinions of the Kevin J Anderson, "Saga of Seven Suns" series? I picked
> up, "Hidden Empire" for 50p in a second hand shop the other day. Halfway
> through it and it seems a little simplistic, but I could persevere. However
> I notice there's 5 or 6 books in the series!
Avoid. Boring, repetitive and banal.
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:19 pm
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Phil Launchbury wrote:
> In article <_MadnY40_dtS8MDaRVnygwA DeleteThis @pipex.net>, Dan White wrote:
> > "darsy" <darsyx DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:14d74cf9-cdda-4315-a8c5-7bcf09483c09@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.co
> > m...
> >> On Dec 10, 2:20 pm, Switters <m... DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote:
> > >
> >> You might like Gregory Benford's "Galactic Center" series, though
> >> that's a mix of hard SF and space opera.
> >
> > Any opinions of the Kevin J Anderson, "Saga of Seven Suns" series?
> > I picked up, "Hidden Empire" for 50p in a second hand shop the
> > other day. Halfway through it and it seems a little simplistic,
> > but I could persevere. However I notice there's 5 or 6 books in the
> > series!
>
> Avoid. Boring, repetitive and banal.
And that is just the first book in the series.
No. 2 is worse.(I only got halfway through it.)
Perdido Street Station took a year to finish, and I no longer remember
why I bothered.
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