Liability ?

In news:1c9e7e8.0411150843.4db8c95c@posting.google.com,
MemphisG <solarhippies.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
 > Looking for advice/input. Friend (A) has cafe racer style bike,
 > another friend (B) asked to ride it, after expressing an interest in
 > buying it. Friend (A) agrees to let (B) give it a spin. Friend (B)
 > has severe accident, no one else involved/no property damage, and
 > unfortunately is now on life support in ICU at the hospital. Anyone
 > with experience to this example that can shed insight on liability?
 > Thanks.


Assuming both parties are responsible aged adults then B is totally
responsible as he took liability (explicit and implied) the moment he
swung his leg over A's bike I would have thought.

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MemphisG wrote:

 > Looking for advice/input.  Friend (A) has cafe racer style bike,
 > another friend (B) asked to ride it, after expressing an interest in
 > buying it.  Friend (A) agrees to let (B) give it a spin. Friend (B)
 > has severe accident, no one else involved/no property damage, and
 > unfortunately is now on life support in ICU at the hospital.  Anyone
 > with experience to this example that can shed insight on liability?

.... legal counsel would be a better choice
for opinion, in this case, than USENET
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solarhippies RemoveThis @yahoo.com (MemphisG) wrote in
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 > Looking for advice/input. Friend (A) has cafe racer style bike,
 > another friend (B) asked to ride it, after expressing an interest in
 > buying it. Friend (A) agrees to let (B) give it a spin. Friend (B)
 > has severe accident, no one else involved/no property damage, and
 > unfortunately is now on life support in ICU at the hospital. Anyone
 > with experience to this example that can shed insight on liability?

Friend (A) need to make an immediate report to his insurance company to
see about repairing the bike.

As for liability, Friend (B) or his agents may sue Friend (A) for
damages, let the lawyers handle it, that's what they're paid for.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Mem G. ...

By now someone has said Mr. A needs an attorney. Some of Bs friends are
gonna tell him to go after As homeowners, if nothing else.
If B didn't/wasn't properly licensed,
Mr A has a big problem, depending on how the state feels about M/C
license certification.

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solarhippies.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com (MemphisG) wrote:

:Looking for advice/input. Friend (A) has cafe racer style bike,
:another friend (B) asked to ride it, after expressing an interest in
:buying it. Friend (A) agrees to let (B) give it a spin. Friend (B)
:has severe accident, no one else involved/no property damage, and
:unfortunately is now on life support in ICU at the hospital. Anyone
:with experience to this example that can shed insight on liability?
:Thanks.

Friend B's estate should reimburse friend A for the bike.
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MemphisG wrote:

 > Looking for advice/input. Friend (A) has cafe racer style bike,
 > another friend (B) asked to ride it, after expressing an interest in
 > buying it. Friend (A) agrees to let (B) give it a spin. Friend (B)
 > has severe accident, no one else involved/no property damage, and
 > unfortunately is now on life support in ICU at the hospital. Anyone
 > with experience to this example that can shed insight on liability?
 > Thanks.

Get a lawyer

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Steve Parry wrote:

 > In news:1c9e7e8.0411150843.4db8c95c@posting.google.com,
 > MemphisG <solarhippies.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
 >
  >>Looking for advice/input. Friend (A) has cafe racer style bike,
  >>another friend (B) asked to ride it, after expressing an interest in
  >>buying it. Friend (A) agrees to let (B) give it a spin. Friend (B)
  >>has severe accident, no one else involved/no property damage, and
  >>unfortunately is now on life support in ICU at the hospital. Anyone
  >>with experience to this example that can shed insight on liability?
  >>Thanks.
 >
 >
 >
 > Assuming both parties are responsible aged adults then B is totally
 > responsible as he took liability (explicit and implied) the moment he
 > swung his leg over A's bike I would have thought.
 >
I would be of the camp that asserts B's family owes A a replacement bike.

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mjt <mjtobler.RemoveThis@removethis_mail.ru> wrote in message news:<2vseatF2jrd7oU2.RemoveThis@uni-berlin.de>...
 > MemphisG wrote:
 >
  > > Looking for advice/input.  Friend (A) has cafe racer style bike,
  > > another friend (B) asked to ride it, after expressing an interest in
  > > buying it.  Friend (A) agrees to let (B) give it a spin. Friend (B)
  > > has severe accident, no one else involved/no property damage, and
  > > unfortunately is now on life support in ICU at the hospital.  Anyone
  > > with experience to this example that can shed insight on liability?
 >
 > ... legal counsel would be a better choice
 > for opinion, in this case, than USENET


Thanks for the input. I do plan on advising my buddy to go to
attorney, I was just hopeful to see if there is anyone with experience
or expert knowledge on the matter. Any resource referrals are
appreciated.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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solarhippies RemoveThis @yahoo.com (MemphisG) wrote in message news:<1c9e7e8.0411150843.4db8c95c RemoveThis @posting.google.com>...
 > Looking for advice/input. Friend (A) has cafe racer style bike,
 > another friend (B) asked to ride it, after expressing an interest in
 > buying it. Friend (A) agrees to let (B) give it a spin. Friend (B)
 > has severe accident, no one else involved/no property damage, and
 > unfortunately is now on life support in ICU at the hospital. Anyone
 > with experience to this example that can shed insight on liability?

His friend is on life support in the ICU at the hospital and he's
worrying about liability issues ? I am deeply touched by this friendship.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Liability ? 

 >Looking for advice/input. Friend (A) has cafe racer style bike,
 >another friend (B) asked to ride it, after expressing an interest in
 >buying it. Friend (A) agrees to let (B) give it a spin. Friend (B)
 >has severe accident, no one else involved/no property damage, and
 >unfortunately is now on life support in ICU at the hospital. Anyone
 >with experience to this example that can shed insight on liability?
 >Thanks.


At this point I'd be less worried about liability, and more worried
about my friend.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Rkleinsch1216128.TakeThisOut@aol.com (Rob Kleinschmidt) wrote in
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 > solarhippies.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com (MemphisG) wrote in message
 > news:<1c9e7e8.0411150843.4db8c95c.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>...
  >> Looking for advice/input. Friend (A) has cafe racer style bike,
  >> another friend (B) asked to ride it, after expressing an interest
  >> in buying it. Friend (A) agrees to let (B) give it a spin.
  >> Friend (B) has severe accident, no one else involved/no property
  >> damage, and unfortunately is now on life support in ICU at the
  >> hospital. Anyone with experience to this example that can shed
  >> insight on liability?
 >
 > His friend is on life support in the ICU at the hospital and he's
 > worrying about liability issues ? I am deeply touched by this
 > friendship.

IMHO, his friend's recovery is completely out of his hands, the
liability issue is not.

Worry about the things you can change, not the things you can't.

I'm sure (A) is concerned for his friend but he's probably not allowed
to visit so, other than wishing for (B) recovery, he should turn his
attention to exactly what he's asking about.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"XS11E" <xs11eNO RemoveThis @SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > Rkleinsch1216128 RemoveThis @aol.com (Rob Kleinschmidt) wrote in
 > news:f9ff4421.0411151950.7bc433f2@posting.google.com:
 >
  >> solarhippies RemoveThis @yahoo.com (MemphisG) wrote in message
  >> news:<1c9e7e8.0411150843.4db8c95c RemoveThis @posting.google.com>...
   >>> Looking for advice/input. Friend (A) has cafe racer style bike,
   >>> another friend (B) asked to ride it, after expressing an interest
   >>> in buying it. Friend (A) agrees to let (B) give it a spin.
   >>> Friend (B) has severe accident, no one else involved/no property
   >>> damage, and unfortunately is now on life support in ICU at the
   >>> hospital. Anyone with experience to this example that can shed
   >>> insight on liability?
  >>
  >> His friend is on life support in the ICU at the hospital and he's
  >> worrying about liability issues ? I am deeply touched by this
  >> friendship.
 >
 > IMHO, his friend's recovery is completely out of his hands, the
 > liability issue is not.
 >
 > Worry about the things you can change, not the things you can't.
 >
 > I'm sure (A) is concerned for his friend but he's probably not allowed
 > to visit so, other than wishing for (B) recovery, he should turn his
 > attention to exactly what he's asking about.

It's only natural to think of liability, even if it involves a friend.

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Bownse <bownse.DeleteThis@swbell.net> wrote in news:l1bmd.13396$fC4.13161
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 > I would be of the camp that asserts B's family owes A a replacement bike.


Unless, of course, it could be proven there was something mechanically
unsound about the bike that (A) knew about and didn't reveal to (B)...

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