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That pretty much sums up my sentiments - I'm keeping XP for at least
that long - however I'm 'using' Vista to see how it goes - and to be
honest tho I am anti MS (nothing makes me swear like excel does, there's
only one thing it does I wish 123 did - we use Lotus at work),
surprisingly with Vista, I've only found one thing I feel I need that I
can't get to work (3ds max . I didn't mind OS2 or NT for that matter,
but in the name of (Bill's) progress there's no support for either.

Overall much to my personal chagrin I'm quite liking Vista itself - the
PC I have is grunty enough to absorb any bloatiness for the things I use
it for which includes some pretty serious gaming and modding. Though to
be honest I miss the pure simplicity of the Commodore 64. I wonder if
you can hack a USB port onto one .. then these days one could be
extremely handy.

Bob Milutinovic wrote:
> "Yeebok" <here.TakeThisOut@there.com> wrote in message
> news:46d7db5e@news.comindico.com.au...
>> Good point Betty - me and my stereotypes eh ? Funnily enough I thought
>> it was a simple enough question .. tho as always help was more sparse than
>> the smart arse answers .. I'm just as bad as anyone else tho
>
> Not entirely smartarse, though in restrospect I could've been a little more
> descriptive.
>
> Vista is a bad move altogether, moreso now before its 18-month core
> servicepack cycle has completed.
>
> Venture into any of the news.admin.* newsgroups and you'll note a distinct
> lack of admins willing to allow their employers to switch the workforce to
> Vista, despite the $$$ being waved at them by the Mickey$oft marketing
> folk - the fact is, no Mickey$oft operating system is stable until at least
> ServicePack 2 has been released[1].
>
> [1] Windows/NT and OS/2[2] were different beasts altogether - NT was written
> by DEC programmers, OS/2 was written by IBM.
>
> [2] Yes, there _was_ a Mickey$oft version of OS/2 2.0, the development of
> which they contributed to, but their marketing arm saw the damage it was
> causing to the Windows market, so dropped it.
>
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At work I'm more or less the same tho I work in a team of a few nerds..
Found vista to be stable as, using vista 32. Tho the virtual machine may
impact somehow or you hardware - you on intel or amd ?

Toosmoky wrote:
> Yeebok wrote:
>
>> Overall much to my personal chagrin I'm quite liking Vista itself -
>> the PC I have is grunty enough to absorb any bloatiness for the things
>> I use it for which includes some pretty serious gaming and modding.
>
> I'm the local guru at work and I find that the more I use/fix Vista the
> more I'm determined to hang onto XP. I do have a version of Vista
> running in a virtual machine for testing but it bluescreens on startup
> about 25% of the time...
>
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"Yeebok" <here.TakeThisOut@there.com> wrote in message
news:46d7db5e@news.comindico.com.au...
> Good point Betty - me and my stereotypes eh ? Funnily enough I thought
> it was a simple enough question .. tho as always help was more sparse than
> the smart arse answers .. I'm just as bad as anyone else tho
>
> In short I said it didn't work for me and asked if something worked for
> others then added what I'd changed that may affect it .. included the
> exchange with Shannons 'coz I had the shits at the time ..
>
> Besides the obvious PEBKAC (problem exists between chair and keyboard) I
> was expecting a PICNIC (problem in chair not in computer) or EyeDeeTenTee
> error (i d 1 0 t ).. I know there's others, but at the moment, I can't
> think of any ..
>
> Y!
>
> bikerbetty wrote:
>> "Yeebok" <here.TakeThisOut@there.com> wrote in message
>> news:46d7d682$1@news.comindico.com.au...
>>> Now I'm relegated to being a damsel in distress ! Woot !
>>>
>>>
>>> Toosmoky wrote:
>>>> Yeebok wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to the one person who assisted
>>>> You're welcome, citizen. Up, up and away!...
>>
>> no, Yeebs, you're relegated to being a "citizen" - Superman rescued ppl
>> other than damsels!
>>
>> betty, who's been totally
>> bamboozled by all the
>> tech-talk. You fellas are
>> weird.....

>> ah! Thank you for the translations <grin> Will have to write them down as
>> an aide-memoire (sp? I can spell good in English <snigger>, but not so
>> good in Frog!), in case I ever see them again!

betty
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"Yeebok" <here.TakeThisOut@there.com> wrote in message
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> Good point Betty - me and my stereotypes eh ? Funnily enough I thought
> it was a simple enough question .. tho as always help was more sparse than
> the smart arse answers .. I'm just as bad as anyone else tho

Not entirely smartarse, though in restrospect I could've been a little more
descriptive.

Vista is a bad move altogether, moreso now before its 18-month core
servicepack cycle has completed.

Venture into any of the news.admin.* newsgroups and you'll note a distinct
lack of admins willing to allow their employers to switch the workforce to
Vista, despite the $$$ being waved at them by the Mickey$oft marketing
folk - the fact is, no Mickey$oft operating system is stable until at least
ServicePack 2 has been released[1].

[1] Windows/NT and OS/2[2] were different beasts altogether - NT was written
by DEC programmers, OS/2 was written by IBM.

[2] Yes, there _was_ a Mickey$oft version of OS/2 2.0, the development of
which they contributed to, but their marketing arm saw the damage it was
causing to the Windows market, so dropped it.

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom - "Australia's Web Presence Specialists"
http://www.cognicom.net.au/
telephone (0417) 45-77-66
facsimile (02) 9824-2240
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Yeebok wrote:

> Overall much to my personal chagrin I'm quite liking Vista itself - the
> PC I have is grunty enough to absorb any bloatiness for the things I use
> it for which includes some pretty serious gaming and modding.

I'm the local guru at work and I find that the more I use/fix Vista the
more I'm determined to hang onto XP. I do have a version of Vista
running in a virtual machine for testing but it bluescreens on startup
about 25% of the time...

--
Toosmoky
Work to ride, Ride to Work...
http://users.tpg.com.au/smokey61
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"Yeebok" <here.DeleteThis@there.com> wrote in message
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>
> Overall much to my personal chagrin I'm quite liking Vista itself - the PC
> I have is grunty enough to absorb any bloatiness for the things I use it
> for which includes some pretty serious gaming and modding. Though to be
> honest I miss the pure simplicity of the Commodore 64. I wonder if you can
> hack a USB port onto one .. then these days one could be extremely handy.

Still have my old C-64 set up & running in the study & must say I enjoy
using it still.
Much more so than the Vista ultimate I'm swearing at on the spare PC at
present.
Prefer XP & Linux over Big Brother Vista any day...reminds me of Win ME's
constant BSOD fun & games.
Grump.
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bikerbetty wrote:

> You fellas are weird.....

Are you just realising that?

Theo
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Yeebok wrote:
> At work I'm more or less the same tho I work in a team of a few
> nerds..

I used to be a nerd, now I employ nerds and try to distance myself from
nerdiness.

Theo
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You used to be a nerd don't want to be now ? That is SO uncool. You've
betrayed your pocket protector, Theo !


Theo Bekkers wrote:
> Yeebok wrote:
>> At work I'm more or less the same tho I work in a team of a few
>> nerds..
>
> I used to be a nerd, now I employ nerds and try to distance myself from
> nerdiness.
>
> Theo
>
>
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Nice summation JL (all of it not just the quoted bit )


JL wrote:
> Bob Milutinovic wrote:
>
>> [1] Windows/NT and OS/2[2] were different beasts altogether - NT was
>> written by DEC programmers, OS/2 was written by IBM.
>
> Doesn't matter whether you have the best technology you have to meet
> other customer needs as well (and being free to choose your hardware
> supplier was too important to PC buyers - the IBM PCs were always too
> slow and too dear)
>
> JL
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Yeebok wrote:

> At work I'm more or less the same tho I work in a team of a few nerds..
> Found vista to be stable as, using vista 32. Tho the virtual machine may
> impact somehow or you hardware - you on intel or amd ?

All other versions of Windows run fine in Virtual PC 2007. (I have every
version of Windows from DOS 6.22 and Win 3.1 through to Vista.)

It's only Vista that BSODs in a virtual machine. I've given it a Gig of
RAM to play with, leaving a Gig for the host.

My ex's new Toshiba laptop also has a lot of probs with Vista, BSODs,
freezing, apps crashing etc.

--
Toosmoky
Work to ride, Ride to Work...
http://users.tpg.com.au/smokey61
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