IOM accident.....

External Since: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 131

"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murray.takethisout.RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
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> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> > J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> >>> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>>> Do any of you who support helmet laws think the Isle of Man TT
>> >>>>>> should *not* be outlawed?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Me.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Mountain climbing (for instance) kills, and the fatality rate on
>> >>>>> peaks like Everest is far, far worse. Would you outlaw that as
>> >>>>> well? If so, I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So you're sayhing that it's all right for a person to choose to
>> >>>> endanger himself by climbing a dangerous mountain but it's not all
>> >>>> right for him to choose to endanger himself by riding without a
>> >>>> helmet?
>> >>>
>> >>> No, you idiot. I'm saying that I support the helmet laws and I think
>> >>> the TT should not be outlawed. Which was your question, remember.
>> >>
>> >> You appear to have me confused with someone else.
>> >>
>> >> Now try answering the question.
>> >
>> > Oh Christ. No, I am *not* saying it's OK for someone to ride without a
>> > helmet. I'm saying I support helmet laws and I think the TT should not
>> > be outlawed.
>>
>> Please explain why one is the government's business but the other is
>> not, instead of waffling and trying to insult people.
>
> You're the one waffling. What on *earth* is the connection between
> helmet laws, and racing?

The connection made was that they are both forms of random suicide. If you
support government regulation on one but not the other, it shows up a
certain inconsistency in your logic and thinking. He wants to know what it
is, as would I. Please explain.

External Since: Apr 06, 2007 Posts: 132

Mike Young wrote:
> "The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murray.takethisout DeleteThis @dsl.pipex.com>
> wrote in message
> news:1hzfzy5.gosx3bs4evlaN%chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com...
>> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do any of you who support helmet laws think the Isle of Man TT
>>>>>>>>> should *not* be outlawed?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mountain climbing (for instance) kills, and the fatality rate
>>>>>>>> on peaks like Everest is far, far worse. Would you outlaw that
>>>>>>>> as well? If so, I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you're sayhing that it's all right for a person to choose to
>>>>>>> endanger himself by climbing a dangerous mountain but it's not
>>>>>>> all right for him to choose to endanger himself by riding
>>>>>>> without a helmet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, you idiot. I'm saying that I support the helmet laws and I
>>>>>> think the TT should not be outlawed. Which was your question,
>>>>>> remember.
>>>>>
>>>>> You appear to have me confused with someone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now try answering the question.
>>>>
>>>> Oh Christ. No, I am *not* saying it's OK for someone to ride
>>>> without a helmet. I'm saying I support helmet laws and I think the
>>>> TT should not be outlawed.
>>>
>>> Please explain why one is the government's business but the other is
>>> not, instead of waffling and trying to insult people.
>>
>> You're the one waffling. What on *earth* is the connection between
>> helmet laws, and racing?
>
> The connection made was that they are both forms of random suicide.
> If you support government regulation on one but not the other, it
> shows up a certain inconsistency in your logic and thinking. He wants
> to know what it is, as would I. Please explain.

In both cases there is an element of risk. In the case of helmets the
government denies the participant the choice of taking the risk, while
with racing the government allows the participant the choice.

So why should the participant be denied one risk but allowed the other?

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