IOM accident.....

"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murray.takethisout.TakeThisOut@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
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> sqidbait <sqid_bait.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> One thing he didn't answer was why it was ok for racers
>> to accept the risk of doing the TT, but it's not okay
>> for everyone else to make a personal decision about
>> helmet use.
>
> Fuck, you're stupid, aren't you?

Odinn?

Robert
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On Jun 8, 3:18 pm, chateau.murray.takethis... DeleteThis @dsl.pipex.com (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> sqidbait <sqid_b... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 8, 2:38 pm, chateau.murray.takethis... DeleteThis @dsl.pipex.com (The Older
> > Gentleman) wrote:
> > > sqidbait <sqid_b... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > One thing he didn't answer was why it was ok for racers
> > > > to accept the risk of doing the TT, but it's not okay
> > > > for everyone else to make a personal decision about
> > > > helmet use.
>
> > > Fuck, you're stupid, aren't you?
>
> > Fuck, you're British, aren't you?
>
> I'll try and keep this simple, as you're the second person who's
> misunderstood the thread.
>
> He said:-
>
> "Do any of you who support helmet laws think the Isle of Man TT should
> *not* be outlawed? I'd like to hear your rationale on that one."

Actually, "timeOday" wrote that, not John.

>
> I said "me"
>

That's "you", right? Ok, got that part.

> That means: "yes, I support helmet laws, and I think the TT should not
> be outlawed." It's not hard to understand.

Right. Simple expression of a viewpoint; no
rationale given.

> Yet John thinks it means I
> support riding without a helmet,

Nope, John thinks that you support helmet
laws and that you support the running of the
TT. And he believes that at the core, the
dangers inherent in both should be evaluated
by the persons involved.

He doesn't see why it's okay for a racer
to make a personal decision to assume more
risk, and yet not allow an individual
motorcyclist to make a similar decision
in a different context.

> and you think I mean there's a
> relationship between helmet laws and the TT.

No, I explicity said that you did _not_
believe that there was a linkage between
helmet laws and the TT. That's why I made
the flippant comment about fishing rights.

I'm with John and timeOday. I think being
pro-helmet-law and pro-TT is inconsistent.

Well, actually that's not the whole story.
My prior comment was actually not a dig at
you, but rather a realization that you were
trolling the septics. Again. I should know
better by now.

What was your goal for this thread?

200 posts?

> Your call.

At $5.99 for the first minute and $4.99
for all subsequent, I'm afraid that I'll
have to pass.

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sqidbait <sqid_bait.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jun 8, 2:38 pm, chateau.murray.takethis....RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com (The Older
> Gentleman) wrote:
> > sqidbait <sqid_b....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > One thing he didn't answer was why it was ok for racers
> > > to accept the risk of doing the TT, but it's not okay
> > > for everyone else to make a personal decision about
> > > helmet use.
> >
> > Fuck, you're stupid, aren't you?
>
> Fuck, you're British, aren't you?
>
I'll try and keep this simple, as you're the second person who's
misunderstood the thread.

He said:-

"Do any of you who support helmet laws think the Isle of Man TT should
*not* be outlawed? I'd like to hear your rationale on that one."

I said "me"

That means: "yes, I support helmet laws, and I think the TT should not
be outlawed." It's not hard to understand. Yet John thinks it means I
support riding without a helmet, and you think I mean there's a
relationship between helmet laws and the TT.

Your call.



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On Jun 8, 10:49 pm, "Robert Bolton" <robertboltond....DeleteThis@gci.net> wrote:
> "The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murray.takethis....DeleteThis@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
> messagenews:1hzeuv6.1wsbkxpxocf97N%chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com...
>
> > sqidbait <sqid_b....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> One thing he didn't answer was why it was ok for racers
> >> to accept the risk of doing the TT, but it's not okay
> >> for everyone else to make a personal decision about
> >> helmet use.
>
> > Fuck, you're stupid, aren't you?
>
> Odinn?

Now THAT'S funny!



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On Jun 9, 1:06 am, chateau.murray.takethis... DeleteThis @dsl.pipex.com (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> sqidbait <sqid_b... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm with John and timeOday. I think being
> > pro-helmet-law and pro-TT is inconsistent.
>
> Ah. OK. I don't see there's any relationship at all, actually, which is
> why I used the mountain climbing analogy.

If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for
another five minutes.

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sqidbait <sqid_bait RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I'm with John and timeOday. I think being
> pro-helmet-law and pro-TT is inconsistent.
>

Ah. OK. I don't see there's any relationship at all, actually, which is
why I used the mountain climbing analogy.


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J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:

> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >>>> Do any of you who support helmet laws think the Isle of Man TT
> >>>> should *not* be outlawed?
> >>>
> >>> Me.
> >>>
> >>>> I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
> >>>
> >>> Mountain climbing (for instance) kills, and the fatality rate on
> >>> peaks like Everest is far, far worse. Would you outlaw that as
> >>> well? If so, I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
> >>
> >> So you're sayhing that it's all right for a person to choose to
> >> endanger himself by climbing a dangerous mountain but it's not all
> >> right for him to choose to endanger himself by riding without a
> >> helmet?
> >
> > No, you idiot. I'm saying that I support the helmet laws and I think
> > the TT should not be outlawed. Which was your question, remember.
>
> You appear to have me confused with someone else.
>
> Now try answering the question.

Oh Christ. No, I am *not* saying it's OK for someone to ride without a
helmet. I'm saying I support helmet laws and I think the TT should not
be outlawed.

Now go back, start again, read the questions again, read the answers
again.


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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Do any of you who support helmet laws think the Isle of Man TT
>>>>>> should *not* be outlawed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Me.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mountain climbing (for instance) kills, and the fatality rate on
>>>>> peaks like Everest is far, far worse. Would you outlaw that as
>>>>> well? If so, I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
>>>>
>>>> So you're sayhing that it's all right for a person to choose to
>>>> endanger himself by climbing a dangerous mountain but it's not all
>>>> right for him to choose to endanger himself by riding without a
>>>> helmet?
>>>
>>> No, you idiot. I'm saying that I support the helmet laws and I think
>>> the TT should not be outlawed. Which was your question, remember.
>>
>> You appear to have me confused with someone else.
>>
>> Now try answering the question.
>
> Oh Christ. No, I am *not* saying it's OK for someone to ride without a
> helmet. I'm saying I support helmet laws and I think the TT should not
> be outlawed.

Please explain why one is the government's business but the other is
not, instead of waffling and trying to insult people.

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"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
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> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Do any of you who support helmet laws think the Isle of Man TT
>>>>>>> should *not* be outlawed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mountain climbing (for instance) kills, and the fatality rate on
>>>>>> peaks like Everest is far, far worse. Would you outlaw that as
>>>>>> well? If so, I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you're sayhing that it's all right for a person to choose to
>>>>> endanger himself by climbing a dangerous mountain but it's not all
>>>>> right for him to choose to endanger himself by riding without a
>>>>> helmet?
>>>>
>>>> No, you idiot. I'm saying that I support the helmet laws and I think
>>>> the TT should not be outlawed. Which was your question, remember.
>>>
>>> You appear to have me confused with someone else.
>>>
>>> Now try answering the question.
>>
>> Oh Christ. No, I am *not* saying it's OK for someone to ride without a
>> helmet. I'm saying I support helmet laws and I think the TT should not
>> be outlawed.
>
> Please explain why one is the government's business but the other is
> not, instead of waffling and trying to insult people.

DAMN you are one thick headed cunt...how many different ways does he have to
give the same answer it was as clear as day the first time dingle berry.

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sqidbait <sqid_bait.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jun 9, 1:06 am, chateau.murray.takethis....DeleteThis@dsl.pipex.com (The Older
> Gentleman) wrote:
> > sqidbait <sqid_b....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm with John and timeOday. I think being
> > > pro-helmet-law and pro-TT is inconsistent.
> >
> > Ah. OK. I don't see there's any relationship at all, actually, which is
> > why I used the mountain climbing analogy.
>
> If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for
> another five minutes.
>
<Jingles coin of the realm>


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J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:

> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> >>> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>> Do any of you who support helmet laws think the Isle of Man TT
> >>>>>> should *not* be outlawed?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mountain climbing (for instance) kills, and the fatality rate on
> >>>>> peaks like Everest is far, far worse. Would you outlaw that as
> >>>>> well? If so, I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
> >>>>
> >>>> So you're sayhing that it's all right for a person to choose to
> >>>> endanger himself by climbing a dangerous mountain but it's not all
> >>>> right for him to choose to endanger himself by riding without a
> >>>> helmet?
> >>>
> >>> No, you idiot. I'm saying that I support the helmet laws and I think
> >>> the TT should not be outlawed. Which was your question, remember.
> >>
> >> You appear to have me confused with someone else.
> >>
> >> Now try answering the question.
> >
> > Oh Christ. No, I am *not* saying it's OK for someone to ride without a
> > helmet. I'm saying I support helmet laws and I think the TT should not
> > be outlawed.
>
> Please explain why one is the government's business but the other is
> not, instead of waffling and trying to insult people.

You're the one waffling. What on *earth* is the connection between
helmet laws, and racing?


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Keith Schiffner wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do any of you who support helmet laws think the Isle of Man TT
>>>>>>>> should *not* be outlawed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mountain climbing (for instance) kills, and the fatality rate on
>>>>>>> peaks like Everest is far, far worse. Would you outlaw that as
>>>>>>> well? If so, I'd like to hear your rationale on that one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you're sayhing that it's all right for a person to choose to
>>>>>> endanger himself by climbing a dangerous mountain but it's not
>>>>>> all right for him to choose to endanger himself by riding
>>>>>> without a helmet?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, you idiot. I'm saying that I support the helmet laws and I
>>>>> think the TT should not be outlawed. Which was your question,
>>>>> remember.
>>>>
>>>> You appear to have me confused with someone else.
>>>>
>>>> Now try answering the question.
>>>
>>> Oh Christ. No, I am *not* saying it's OK for someone to ride
>>> without a helmet. I'm saying I support helmet laws and I think the
>>> TT should not be outlawed.
>>
>> Please explain why one is the government's business but the other is
>> not, instead of waffling and trying to insult people.
>
> DAMN you are one thick headed cunt...how many different ways does he
> have to give the same answer it was as clear as day the first time
> dingle berry.

Oh, I am _so_ reduced to tears. Not.

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Keith Schiffner <schistan.RemoveThis@bresnan.net> wrote:

> DAMN you are one thick headed cunt...how many different ways does he have to
> give the same answer it was as clear as day the first time dingle berry.


<Nods in agreement on every point>


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