IAM take on bike safety

"Rope" <spam.DeleteThis@ukrm.net> wrote in message
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 > Scanned pages from this months IAM mag:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p1.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p1.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p2.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p2.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p3.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p3.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p4.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p4.jpg</font</a>>

So, three and a half pages of how we deserve it and it's all our own fault,
followed by a grudging admission that most motorbike accidents are not the
fault of the rider.

About what I would have expected from them.


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Dan White wrote:
 > "Rope" <spam.DeleteThis@ukrm.net> wrote in message
 > news:VA.000013ff.1aca6502@ukrm.net...
  >> Scanned pages from this months IAM mag:
  >>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p1.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p1.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p2.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p2.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p3.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p3.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p4.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p4.jpg</font</a>>
 >
 > So, three and a half pages of how we deserve it and it's all our own
 > fault, followed by a grudging admission that most motorbike accidents
 > are not the fault of the rider.
 >
 > About what I would have expected from them.

I thought it was perfectly reasonable.

Nothing ground breaking or terribly controversial - in either direction.

Though I do wonder how effective airbags really are when you've just
headbutted the door of another car - I would have thought they potentially
would stop you coming OFF the bike - I'd much rather do a little swan dive
and take my chances with the ground then stop instantly in a car, but that's
me.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Rope wrote:
 > Scanned pages from this months IAM mag:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p1.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p1.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p2.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p2.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p3.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p3.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p4.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p4.jpg</font</a>>

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:23:08 +0100, Rope wrote:

 > Scanned pages from this months IAM mag:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p1.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p1.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p2.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p2.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p3.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p3.jpg</font</a>>

Will safety ever sell bikes? If they all look as bad as BMW's C1? Erm,
no.

Road engineers should take bikers into account when designing roads. Has
this not been banged on about for years and has anyone did anything?

<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p4.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p4.jpg</font</a>>

Diesel spills. This was allegedly made illegal years ago. Why do I still
see roads with rainbows everywhere I go? Because no one gives a
shit if we fall off? Or am I just cynical?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:39:46 GMT, gazzafield <nospam DeleteThis @nospam.thank.you>
allegedly wrote:

 > Road engineers should take bikers into account when designing roads.
 > Has this not been banged on about for years and has anyone did
 > anything?

I know! The bastards round my way keep straighening out the twisty bits,
because Mr Fucking City-Slicker moans about getting stuck behind a tractor
on his commute from ruralsville.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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gazzafield wrote:
 > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:23:08 +0100, Rope wrote:
 >
  >> Scanned pages from this months IAM mag:
  >>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p1.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p1.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p2.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p2.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p3.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p3.jpg</font</a>>
 >
 >
 > Road engineers should take bikers into account when designing roads.
 > Has this not been banged on about for years and has anyone did
 > anything?
 >
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p4.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p4.jpg</font</a>>
 >
 > Diesel spills. This was allegedly made illegal years ago. Why do I
 > still see roads with rainbows everywhere I go? Because no one gives a
 > shit if we fall off? Or am I just cynical?

Bit like "we've" taken notice of calls to ride 'sensibly' and not put holes
into hedges everywhere?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"dwb" <parc_erom DeleteThis @crossdata.co.uk> struggled to ejaculate:

 >I'd much rather do a little swan dive
 >and take my chances with the ground then stop instantly in a car, but that's
 >me.

That's not just you, Dan. Jump, you fucker, jump is my motto. Tuck,
roll and slide gracefully to a stop avoiding the road furniture. A
bit of gravel rash is far preferable to wearing the side of a car.

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:52:25 +0100, dwb wrote:

 > gazzafield wrote:
  >> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:23:08 +0100, Rope wrote:
  >>
   >>> Scanned pages from this months IAM mag:
   >>>
<font color=brown>   >>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p1.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p1.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=brown>   >>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p2.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p2.jpg</font</a>>
<font color=brown>   >>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p3.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p3.jpg</font</a>>
  >>
  >>
  >> Road engineers should take bikers into account when designing roads.
  >> Has this not been banged on about for years and has anyone did
  >> anything?
  >>
<font color=brown>   >>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p4.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.indqualtec.co.uk/UKRM/IAM_Bikes_p4.jpg</font</a>>
  >>
  >> Diesel spills. This was allegedly made illegal years ago. Why do I
  >> still see roads with rainbows everywhere I go? Because no one gives a
  >> shit if we fall off? Or am I just cynical?
 >
 > Bit like "we've" taken notice of calls to ride 'sensibly' and not put holes
 > into hedges everywhere?


Last time I put a hole in a hedge I was seventeen. So that was quite a
lot of years ago. I don't like falling off, it hurts way too much. Being
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On 26 Oct 2004 14:28:05 GMT, Switters <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote:

 >On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:39:46 GMT, gazzafield <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.thank.you>
 >allegedly wrote:
 >
  >> Road engineers should take bikers into account when designing roads.
  >> Has this not been banged on about for years and has anyone did
  >> anything?
 >
 >I know! The bastards round my way keep straighening out the twisty bits,
 >because Mr Fucking City-Slicker moans about getting stuck behind a tractor
 >on his commute from ruralsville.

I fucking hate it when they do that.
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Dwb spoke:
 > Is this the IAM, or your local IAM group?

The main IAM mag - Winter 2004

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Champ spoke:
  > >I know! The bastards round my way keep straighening out the twisty bits,
  > >because Mr Fucking City-Slicker moans about getting stuck behind a tractor
  > >on his commute from ruralsville.
 >
 > I fucking hate it when they do that.

Unless, as is the case here, when they 'dualled' the A1, they left the
original wide sweeping near-deserted bits for me to play on :^)

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Dwb spoke:
 > I thought it was perfectly reasonable.

I thought so as well, not anti-biker

 > Nothing ground breaking or terribly controversial - in either direction.

Except the bit on p2, 3rd column, where the Road Safety Minister David
Jamieson "welcomed this 'timely' report, saying "Motorcycling is an important
part of the transport mix and we will consider the report's recommendations
closely as we further develop our motorcycling strategy"

 > Though I do wonder how effective airbags really are when you've just
 > headbutted the door of another car - I would have thought they potentially
 > would stop you coming OFF the bike - I'd much rather do a little swan dive
 > and take my chances with the ground then stop instantly in a car, but that's
 > me.

True - although the ABS recommendation may have some merit?

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Rope wrote:
 > Dwb spoke:
  >> I thought it was perfectly reasonable.
 >
 > I thought so as well, not anti-biker
 >
  >> Nothing ground breaking or terribly controversial - in either
  >> direction.
 >
 > Except the bit on p2, 3rd column, where the Road Safety Minister
 > David Jamieson "welcomed this 'timely' report, saying "Motorcycling
 > is an important part of the transport mix and we will consider the
 > report's recommendations closely as we further develop our
 > motorcycling strategy"
 >
  >> Though I do wonder how effective airbags really are when you've just
  >> headbutted the door of another car - I would have thought they
  >> potentially would stop you coming OFF the bike - I'd much rather do
  >> a little swan dive and take my chances with the ground then stop
  >> instantly in a car, but that's me.
 >
 > True - although the ABS recommendation may have some merit?

I didn't say it didn't.

My next bike (whatever it will be) will have ABS as I personally couldn't
bullshit myself to believe I could brake better without it.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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