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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:59 am
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Back in the days when "he who shall not be named" was in full delusional
mode, I posted this as a way any attorneys who wished to verify who I was,
get my address, discuss issues, etc etc, could contact me. The exact sig
line I used was
For attorneys who are coherent
303@803@5247
in the hopes that the @ symbol wouldn't make it a spammers delight. I
thought I would mention that this phone hasn't been called by anyone I
posted the number for ( of course ), but it has found its way into mass
mailing advertising, I've been called by at least 2 real estate agents who
thought I wanted to buy a home in Maryland, and a few other odds and ends.
I didn't post this more than what, maybe a dozen or two times during the
beginning of August? And I thought I disguised it well enough that auto-bots
looking for phone numbers wouldn't be able to notice it much.
Just a warning to others who might think that posting a real live phone
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:59 am
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On Sep 29, 10:59 am, "TroytheTroll" <f4_....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Back in the days when "he who shall not be named" was in full delusional
> mode, I posted this as a way any attorneys who wished to verify who I was,
> get my address, discuss issues, etc etc, could contact me. The exact sig
> line I used was
>
> For attorneys who are coherent
> 303@803@5247
>
> in the hopes that the @ symbol wouldn't make it a spammers delight. I
> thought I would mention that this phone hasn't been called by anyone I
> posted the number for ( of course ), but it has found its way into mass
> mailing advertising, I've been called by at least 2 real estate agents who
> thought I wanted to buy a home in Maryland, and a few other odds and ends.
>
> I didn't post this more than what, maybe a dozen or two times during the
> beginning of August? And I thought I disguised it well enough that auto-bots
> looking for phone numbers wouldn't be able to notice it much.
>
> Just a warning to others who might think that posting a real live phone
> number on the web does more than attract spammers and slime, even when its
> MEANT for same.
And yet those who think they're "brave" by posting their real names on
chat sites continue to wonder why us "scardy cats" use handles.
In any event, you can tell the realtors to call ~kurt. Bout time that
boy got the dick outta his hands and got him a place where he can use
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:46 am
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On Sep 29, 8:08?am, saddlebag <saddle....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
> And yet those who think they're "brave" by posting their real names on
> chat sites continue to wonder why us "scardy cats" use handles.
Hackers can still find out who you are and where you work and the
names of your relatives if they want to spend a few hours time putting
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:00 am
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On Sep 29, 12:46 pm, Nameless 1 <Rhiann... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 29, 8:08?am, saddlebag <saddle... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
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> > And yet those who think they're "brave" by posting their real names on
> > chat sites continue to wonder why us "scardy cats" use handles.
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> Hackers can still find out who you are and where you work and the
> names of your relatives if they want to spend a few hours time putting
> all the clues together from messages you posted.
I think it'd take more than a few hours and it depends completely on
how open the person is about their life. That beats the hell out of
simply opening the phonebook and finding someone's address. Then it's
only a matter of time before that person posts their hotel travel
plans to the newsgroup and some nefarious type slips into their home
and absconds with their collection of AMA superstar autographs.
Can you imagine how many long, hot lines were stood in to get these
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:06 am
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"TroytheTroll" <f4_boy.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Back in the days when "he who shall not be named" was in full delusional
> mode, I posted this as a way any attorneys who wished to verify who I was,
> get my address, discuss issues, etc etc, could contact me. The exact sig
> line I used was
>
>
> For attorneys who are coherent
> 303@803@5247
>
>
> in the hopes that the @ symbol wouldn't make it a spammers delight. I
> thought I would mention that this phone hasn't been called by anyone I
> posted the number for ( of course ), but it has found its way into mass
> mailing advertising, I've been called by at least 2 real estate agents who
> thought I wanted to buy a home in Maryland, and a few other odds and ends.
>
> I didn't post this more than what, maybe a dozen or two times during the
> beginning of August? And I thought I disguised it well enough that
> auto-bots looking for phone numbers wouldn't be able to notice it much.
>
> Just a warning to others who might think that posting a real live phone
> number on the web does more than attract spammers and slime, even when its
> MEANT for same.
>
And everyone who replied to you essentially reposted it. Try googling it
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:22 pm
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:45 am
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:08 pm
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On Sep 30, 1:34 pm, ~kurt <actinouran....DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
> saddlebag <saddle....DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
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> > I thought I remembered you arguing that living in a apt made more
> > sense somewhere along the line?
>
> I'm sure I did - it often does. A house just gets in the way and takes
> up time and money you could use doing something else. They are not all
> that great of an investment unless you are a speculator buying and turning
> properties around, or a landlord. A house does give you some protection
> from cost of living increases (although taxes go up, and as you pay less
> interest, you get less of a tax break). It also gives you more room,
> privacy, and, in my case, a garage. The the big lie is that, renting is
> just throwing your money away. You throw a lot of money away on a house -
> it is called interest, closing costs, and realtor fees. People have become
> somewhat delusional
And this is where we start to diverge. People have become delusional
all right, but more about what they can afford. Fell and I are both
in our early 40s and have our pads paid off. You can bet we didn't
buy 4000 sq ft houses with vaulted ceilings either.
Most people today wouldn't have the house I grew up in for a garage.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:45 pm
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:18 pm
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:08:07 -0700, saddlebag wrote:
> On Sep 30, 1:34 pm, ~kurt <actinouran....RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> saddlebag <saddle....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I thought I remembered you arguing that living in a apt made more
>> > sense somewhere along the line?
>>
>> I'm sure I did - it often does. A house just gets in the way and takes
>> up time and money you could use doing something else. They are not all
>> that great of an investment unless you are a speculator buying and
>> turning properties around, or a landlord. A house does give you some
>> protection from cost of living increases (although taxes go up, and as
>> you pay less interest, you get less of a tax break). It also gives you
>> more room, privacy, and, in my case, a garage. The the big lie is
>> that, renting is just throwing your money away. You throw a lot of
>> money away on a house - it is called interest, closing costs, and
>> realtor fees. People have become somewhat delusional
>
>
> And this is where we start to diverge. People have become delusional
> all right, but more about what they can afford. Fell and I are both in
> our early 40s and have our pads paid off. You can bet we didn't buy
> 4000 sq ft houses with vaulted ceilings either.
>
> Most people today wouldn't have the house I grew up in for a garage. I
> feel no pity for them being house poor.
The problem is that even more reasonable houses also are beyond
overpriced. I actually looked into buying a house when I still lived in
Florida as I got tired of paying rent. I quickly gave up.
The cheapest I was able to find was around $120,000 for complete utterly
termite ridden pieces of shits that were about to collapse.
For something that a human being could actually live in was running about
200k and higher for something the size of my 1 bedroom apartment I had.
Who can pay those kinds of prices?
--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6
君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:13 pm
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:09:56 -0400, D wrote:
>>>
>>> And this is where we start to diverge. People have become delusional
>>> all right, but more about what they can afford. Fell and I are both
>>> in our early 40s and have our pads paid off. You can bet we didn't
>>> buy 4000 sq ft houses with vaulted ceilings either.
>>>
>>> Most people today wouldn't have the house I grew up in for a garage. I
>>> feel no pity for them being house poor.
>>
>> The problem is that even more reasonable houses also are beyond
>> overpriced. I actually looked into buying a house when I still lived in
>> Florida as I got tired of paying rent. I quickly gave up.
>
> Where in FL? There should be some decent houses further out from the
> city.
Orlando Area, I don't remember the exact locations of the houses.
>
> Prices have cooled some in FL, but they're still really high compared to
> other areas.
Yea they are ridiculously high. Not worried about it right now though, I
don't plan on staying in FL for more than a couple years at best.
Essentially just ending back up there due to work reasons and it being a
better alternative than the middle of nowhere I am living right now.
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2003 Yamaha R6
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:05 pm
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"~kurt" <actinouranium.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> saddlebag <saddlebag.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> I thought I remembered you arguing that living in a apt made more
>> sense somewhere along the line?
>>
>
> I'm sure I did - it often does. A house just gets in the way and takes
> up time and money you could use doing something else. They are not all
> that great of an investment unless you are a speculator buying and turning
> properties around, or a landlord. A house does give you some protection
> from cost of living increases (although taxes go up, and as you pay less
> interest, you get less of a tax break). It also gives you more room,
> privacy, and, in my case, a garage. The the big lie is that, renting is
> just throwing your money away. You throw a lot of money away on a house -
> it is called interest, closing costs, and realtor fees. People have
> become
> somewhat delusional the last decade expecting 15 to 20 percent property
> value
> increases. The increases we have seen over the last decade have been
> unprecedented, and will not continue. Typically, you need to own a house
> for three years or so to just break even when selling it. Housing prices
> have gone up so much simply because houses are priced at what the market
> will bear, and with low interest rates, lots of wealthy people, and
> plenty of new dual income families - well - we got a huge surge in price.
>
> - Kurt
I look at it this way. I put down $5k on my first house (a 3/2) paid less
in PITI than rent for a comparable house, sold it after 5 yrs and left
closing with over $12k in my pocket after the mortgage was paid off. All
the while getting a tax write off on the interest. Sure, I had maintenance
costs along the way, but no big ticket items. Just normal maintenance
because it was new.
Still, if I was single I'd probably live in an apartment with a pool with
lots of smoking hot bitches hanging around it. It'd be ground floor and I'd
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"Stephan Rose" <nospam.DeleteThis@spammer.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:08:07 -0700, saddlebag wrote:
>
>> On Sep 30, 1:34 pm, ~kurt <actinouran....DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> saddlebag <saddle....DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I thought I remembered you arguing that living in a apt made more
>>> > sense somewhere along the line?
>>>
>>> I'm sure I did - it often does. A house just gets in the way and takes
>>> up time and money you could use doing something else. They are not all
>>> that great of an investment unless you are a speculator buying and
>>> turning properties around, or a landlord. A house does give you some
>>> protection from cost of living increases (although taxes go up, and as
>>> you pay less interest, you get less of a tax break). It also gives you
>>> more room, privacy, and, in my case, a garage. The the big lie is
>>> that, renting is just throwing your money away. You throw a lot of
>>> money away on a house - it is called interest, closing costs, and
>>> realtor fees. People have become somewhat delusional
>>
>>
>> And this is where we start to diverge. People have become delusional
>> all right, but more about what they can afford. Fell and I are both in
>> our early 40s and have our pads paid off. You can bet we didn't buy
>> 4000 sq ft houses with vaulted ceilings either.
>>
>> Most people today wouldn't have the house I grew up in for a garage. I
>> feel no pity for them being house poor.
>
> The problem is that even more reasonable houses also are beyond
> overpriced. I actually looked into buying a house when I still lived in
> Florida as I got tired of paying rent. I quickly gave up.
Where in FL? There should be some decent houses further out from the city.
> The cheapest I was able to find was around $120,000 for complete utterly
> termite ridden pieces of shits that were about to collapse.
>
> For something that a human being could actually live in was running about
> 200k and higher for something the size of my 1 bedroom apartment I had.
> Who can pay those kinds of prices?
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> ????????????????
> ??????????????
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"saddlebag" <saddlebag.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Sep 30, 1:34 pm, ~kurt <actinouran....RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> saddlebag <saddle....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I thought I remembered you arguing that living in a apt made more
>> > sense somewhere along the line?
>>
>> I'm sure I did - it often does. A house just gets in the way and takes
>> up time and money you could use doing something else. They are not all
>> that great of an investment unless you are a speculator buying and
>> turning
>> properties around, or a landlord. A house does give you some protection
>> from cost of living increases (although taxes go up, and as you pay less
>> interest, you get less of a tax break). It also gives you more room,
>> privacy, and, in my case, a garage. The the big lie is that, renting is
>> just throwing your money away. You throw a lot of money away on a
>> house -
>> it is called interest, closing costs, and realtor fees. People have
>> become
>> somewhat delusional
>
>
> And this is where we start to diverge. People have become delusional
> all right, but more about what they can afford. Fell and I are both
> in our early 40s and have our pads paid off. You can bet we didn't
> buy 4000 sq ft houses with vaulted ceilings either.
>
> Most people today wouldn't have the house I grew up in for a garage.
> I feel no pity for them being house poor.
>
Yup, and sometimes folks buy their house when they're DINKs and don't
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