FOAK BMW X5 issues?

In article <d5855dd0-f390-46b8-a263-
eb2db803c6dc.TakeThisOut@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, antonye.TakeThisOut@ukrm.net says...

> christofire wrote:
> >
> > Also, a good LPG kit will help with the running cost, but it's still
> > eye-wateringly expensive when compared with a diesel.
>
> Not really - most LPG setups claim to double the mpg the car
> returns, so at 45p per litre of Autogas (round here) and 60mpg,
> that's not a bad investment.

If you have a reasonably modern car, an LPG conversion is worth the 800-
1000 quid outlay as it'll pay for itself in no time. I ran a Renault for
I don't know how long (probably only a few months) and the best fuel
return I remember was filling up with LPG at Warwick services, going to
Birmingham and then filling up again on the M4 at Heston and it cost me
just over 6 quid. Six pound seventeen to be precise.
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In article <Hj1+LVbkC7oHJA9U@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, wun@wicked-uncle-
nigel.me.uk says...

> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
> <neal RemoveThis @champ.org.uk> typed
> >On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:00:11 GMT, wessie <putmynamehere RemoveThis @tesco.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>>> Specifically, the 4.4 petrol sport model?
> >>>
> >>> Everyone will think you're a cunt.
> >>>
> >>> <thinks>
> >>>
> >>> No, you're fine. Get one.
> >>>
> >>
> >>IIRC, Burnt says he likes them...
> >
> >Even more appropriately, Bear wants one.
>
> <dons black cap>

Has the fat cunt gone and snuffed it?
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antonye wrote:
> christofire wrote:
>> Also, a good LPG kit will help with the running cost, but it's still
>> eye-wateringly expensive when compared with a diesel.
>
> Not really - most LPG setups claim to double the mpg the car
> returns, so at 45p per litre of Autogas (round here) and 60mpg,
> that's not a bad investment.

Where did you get that info from? I thought LPG gave worse MPG than petrol.
For example,
http://www.boostlpg.co.uk/driver_industry/Fuel%20saving%206.htm says
" This calculator is based on a typical MPG "loss" of 20% on Autogas
compared to petrol (the energy in a litre of Autogas is less than in a
litre of Petrol.)"

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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Eiron
<E1ron.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> typed
>antonye wrote:
>> christofire wrote:
>>> Also, a good LPG kit will help with the running cost, but it's still
>>> eye-wateringly expensive when compared with a diesel.
>> Not really - most LPG setups claim to double the mpg the car
>> returns, so at 45p per litre of Autogas (round here) and 60mpg,
>> that's not a bad investment.
>
>Where did you get that info from? I thought LPG gave worse MPG than petrol.

*Ding*

My old Landie[1] gave slightly worse consumption on LPG than petrol.


[1] Admittedly, not the most sophisticated setup on the planet.

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:43:03 -0800 (PST), antonye <antonye RemoveThis @ukrm.net>
wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>> antonye wrote:
>>
>> >350bhp and 0-60 in 6.0 secs makes them pretty "sporty"
>>
>> Yeah, but most cars would be that fast with 100bhp less.
>
>Right, so now you're saying that less power is better?

No, I'm saying less weight is better. A 350bhp car ought to be a lot
quicker than that.

But I'm going to resist criticising your car further until you've
completed doing a favour for me with it
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Eiron wrote:
> antonye wrote:
>
> > Not really - most LPG setups claim to double the mpg the car
> > returns, so at 45p per litre of Autogas (round here) and 60mpg,
> > that's not a bad investment.
>
> Where did you get that info from?

http://www.arunautogas.co.uk/lpg_conversion_bmw.htm

My fault, I didn't quite read it right - it says it returns 30mpg
which, given the price of Autogas, is *equivalent* of 60mpg.

But that's still pretty impressive.

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christofire wrote:
> antonye wrote:
>
>> christofire wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, a good LPG kit will help with the running cost, but it's still
>>> eye-wateringly expensive when compared with a diesel.
>>
>> Not really - most LPG setups claim to double the mpg the car
>> returns, so at 45p per litre of Autogas (round here) and 60mpg,
>> that's not a bad investment.
>
> I think you're doubling up there. AIUI, you get slightly worse MPG on
> gas. As the cost is about half that of normal fuel, I've heard the
> argument that your cost-per-mile is halved. For purporses of cost
> comparison, you can then double your MPG to give a rough figure.
>
> You can't get from 15mpg to 30mpg just by changing fuel. If it were
> twice as efficent and half the price then everyone would be using it.

You also have to factor in the cost of the kit, it's not as cheap as folk
think.

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"christofire" <chris RemoveThis @ukrm.org> writes:

> antonye wrote:
>
>> christofire wrote:
>> >
>> > Also, a good LPG kit will help with the running cost, but it's still
>> > eye-wateringly expensive when compared with a diesel.
>>
>> Not really - most LPG setups claim to double the mpg the car
>> returns, so at 45p per litre of Autogas (round here) and 60mpg,
>> that's not a bad investment.

That's only for people who don't read the small print.

> I think you're doubling up there. AIUI, you get slightly worse MPG on
> gas. As the cost is about half that of normal fuel, I've heard the
> argument that your cost-per-mile is halved. For purporses of cost
> comparison, you can then double your MPG to give a rough figure.

Indeed. It's actually half the cost per mpg, not twice the MPG. A lot of
companies do advertise it as double your MPG, but that's just wrong.

LPG as a vehicle fuel does have a few advantages though, not the least
its high octane value...


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antonye <antonye DeleteThis @ukrm.net> wrote:

> 350bhp and 0-60 in 6.0 secs makes them pretty "sporty"

That's nuthin'... my car can get there in twice the time.
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Accompanied by the sound of a chisel on slate Adie,<spam.TakeThisOut@bonwick.me.uk>
managed to produce the following words of wisdom

>> I had a go at a mate's X5, and try as I might I liked it. It was
>> comfy, and slightly unnerving how quick it was.
>
> I've just bought a 4x4 [1] and its all WUN's fault. maybe he should be
> on commission, that's the 5th car I know about that garage as sold
> because of him
>
> Rav 4, 2.2 XTR D4D.

They're actually pretty bloody good.


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Pete M wrote:
> Accompanied by the sound of a chisel on slate
> Adie,<spam RemoveThis @bonwick.me.uk> managed to produce the following words of
> wisdom
>>> I had a go at a mate's X5, and try as I might I liked it. It was
>>> comfy, and slightly unnerving how quick it was.
>>
>> I've just bought a 4x4 [1] and its all WUN's fault. maybe he should
>> be on commission, that's the 5th car I know about that garage as sold
>> because of him
>>
>> Rav 4, 2.2 XTR D4D.
>
> They're actually pretty bloody good.

For a girl's car, sure.

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Eiron wrote:
>
> It is until the chancellor decides to tax it at the same rate as petrol.

True; once Autogas becomes more popular he will redress the balance.

Then it's a switch to chip-fat...

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