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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:03 am
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Australian Motorcycle Council Federal Election Survey
The AMC is attempting to provide motorcyclists with information to
assist them to make a more informed choice on Election Day. The AMC is
sending a survey to all 2007 Election candidates and will be collating
the results and presenting them on its website as responses arrive.
For more information on the survey and the results to go www.amc.asn.au
The AMC will also be having meetings with relevant ministers, shadow
ministers and party spokespersons to determine their views on motorcycle
issues. The outcomes of these meetings will be made available on this
website.
You can do your bit by making riders aware that the AMC is doing this
by distributing this message to as many websites and email groups as
possible.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:05 am
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On Oct 20, 6:10 pm, Zebee Johnstone <zeb... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> Australian Motorcycle Council Federal Election Survey
>
> The AMC is attempting to provide motorcyclists with information to
> assist them to make a more informed choice on Election Day. The AMC is
> sending a survey to all 2007 Election candidates and will be collating
> the results and presenting them on its website as responses arrive.
> For more information on the survey and the results to gowww.amc.asn.au
>
> The AMC will also be having meetings with relevant ministers, shadow
> ministers and party spokespersons to determine their views on motorcycle
> issues. The outcomes of these meetings will be made available on this
> website.
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> You can do your bit by making riders aware that the AMC is doing this
> by distributing this message to as many websites and email groups as
> possible.
>
> Thanks for your help,
When I looked the other day there were only about three responses, and
those from riders in parliament. Bloody pathetic.
If that is all they are going to get then its not worth the effort.
Unfortunately it just shows the level of interest pollies have in us
as a group.
We aren't big/organised enough to threaten their votes so they can
safely ignore us.
Zebee I encourage the NSWMCC in their efforts to make the bastards
notice us, but I am not confident that they will have much effect. And
unfortunately NSW seems to have the only group having any effect at
all.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:03 am
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> Australian Motorcycle Council Federal Election Survey
>
> The AMC is attempting to provide motorcyclists with information to
> assist them to make a more informed choice on Election Day. The AMC is
> sending a survey to all 2007 Election candidates and will be collating
> the results and presenting them on its website as responses arrive.
> For more information on the survey and the results to go www.amc.asn.au
>
> The AMC will also be having meetings with relevant ministers, shadow
> ministers and party spokespersons to determine their views on motorcycle
> issues. The outcomes of these meetings will be made available on this
> website.
>
> You can do your bit by making riders aware that the AMC is doing this
> by distributing this message to as many websites and email groups as
> possible.
>
> Thanks for your help,
What impact does the federal election result have on motorcycling? I
thought almost all government policy which affected motorcyclists would
be at a state level.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:02 am
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In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:03:14 +1000
Nev.. <idiot RemoveThis @mindless.com> wrote:
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> What impact does the federal election result have on motorcycling? I
> thought almost all government policy which affected motorcyclists would
> be at a state level.
The feds can, and have, coerced states by threatening to withhold
federal funds. That's how cycling and motorcycling helmet laws got
passed.
They also are responsible for a fair bit of road funding, meaning they
have a say in things like wire rope barriers.
They are the ones who gazette ADRs, meaning the kinds of bikes that
can get into the country, as well as rules about various 2nd hand
imports and customs duties.
They would be responsible for things like protective clothing having
mandated standards.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:02 am
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"Nev.." <idiot.DeleteThis@mindless.com> wrote in message
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> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>> Australian Motorcycle Council Federal Election Survey
>>
>> The AMC is attempting to provide motorcyclists with information to
>> assist them to make a more informed choice on Election Day. The AMC is
>> sending a survey to all 2007 Election candidates and will be collating
>> the results and presenting them on its website as responses arrive.
>> For more information on the survey and the results to go www.amc.asn.au
>>
>> The AMC will also be having meetings with relevant ministers, shadow
>> ministers and party spokespersons to determine their views on motorcycle
>> issues. The outcomes of these meetings will be made available on this
>> website.
>>
>> You can do your bit by making riders aware that the AMC is doing this
>> by distributing this message to as many websites and email groups as
>> possible.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>
> What impact does the federal election result have on motorcycling? I
> thought almost all government policy which affected motorcyclists would be
> at a state level.
>
> Nev..
Transport's a bit odd - the Commonwealth acts as a sort of "friendly uncle"
(if you can believe that!) to try and "assist" the states & territories to
work towards national consistency in many areas that aren't actually
regulated by the Commonwealth. Not sure how that would relate to things that
affect motorcyclists - perhaps things like differential speed limits,
licensing, LAMS etc????
Also, lots of state & territory transport stuff - safety as well as
security - feeds into bodies like SCOT (Standing Committee on Transport) and
ATC (Australian Transport Council) . Again, not sure how much of it is
motorcycle relevant - but when the ATSB (a division of DOTARS) publishes
reports about motorcycle safety and draws on crash stats that are
nationwide, you know that the Federal Government has a finger in the pie
somewhere.
Don't know whether it will actually HELP us if we speak up, but I'm sure it
can't HURT.....
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:07 am
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:03:14 +1000
> Nev.. <idiot.DeleteThis@mindless.com> wrote:
>> What impact does the federal election result have on motorcycling? I
>> thought almost all government policy which affected motorcyclists would
>> be at a state level.
>
> The feds can, and have, coerced states by threatening to withhold
> federal funds. That's how cycling and motorcycling helmet laws got
> passed.
>
> They also are responsible for a fair bit of road funding, meaning they
> have a say in things like wire rope barriers.
>
> They are the ones who gazette ADRs, meaning the kinds of bikes that
> can get into the country, as well as rules about various 2nd hand
> imports and customs duties.
>
> They would be responsible for things like protective clothing having
> mandated standards.
Zebee,
Please get serious.
I am faced with the choice of voting for John Howard, a lying wee
rodent, or Maxine Mackew (or however it is spelt).
I want to see wee Johnnie's lower lip tremble when he has been beaten.
regards,
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:04 am
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"CrazyCam" <crazycam RemoveThis @upturnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>> In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:03:14 +1000
>> Nev.. <idiot RemoveThis @mindless.com> wrote:
>>> What impact does the federal election result have on motorcycling? I
>>> thought almost all government policy which affected motorcyclists would
>>> be at a state level.
>>
>> The feds can, and have, coerced states by threatening to withhold
>> federal funds. That's how cycling and motorcycling helmet laws got
>> passed.
>>
>> They also are responsible for a fair bit of road funding, meaning they
>> have a say in things like wire rope barriers.
>>
>> They are the ones who gazette ADRs, meaning the kinds of bikes that
>> can get into the country, as well as rules about various 2nd hand
>> imports and customs duties.
>>
>> They would be responsible for things like protective clothing having
>> mandated standards.
>
> Zebee,
>
> Please get serious.
>
> I am faced with the choice of voting for John Howard, a lying wee rodent,
> or Maxine Mackew (or however it is spelt).
So vote for David Leyonhjelm as your no.1, then stick Maxine ahead of Howard >> Stay informed about: Election: AMC survey |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:08 pm
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On Oct 23, 6:38 am, CrazyCam <crazy....RemoveThis@upturnet.com.au> wrote:
> Tex wrote:
> > "CrazyCam" <crazy....RemoveThis@upturnet.com.au> wrote in message
>
> <snip>
>
> >> Zebee,
>
> >> Please get serious.
>
> >> I am faced with the choice of voting for John Howard, a lying wee rodent,
> >> or Maxine Mackew (or however it is spelt).
>
> > So vote for David Leyonhjelm as your no.1, then stick Maxine ahead of Howard
>
> No, Tex, you miss my point.
No, I got it.
> If John H. promised every licenced motorcycle rider would be issued with
> a new Guzzi (or whatever!), would it be sensible to believe him given
> his history.
>
> Equally, assume Maxine made some promise, would it be believable given
> she's a newbie to the party and wouldn't have the clout to fulfill a
> promise even if she wanted to.
>
> So asking any of them what they might do for motorcyclists is a bit of a
> waste of time, IMHO.
>
> BTW, who is this David Leyonhjelm? I don't like his chances of getting
> his snout in the trough.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:10 pm
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On Oct 23, 8:18 am, Biggus..... <fu_kew__MYKNICK....RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
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> It wouldnt matter.. 12 mths into the job, he would become "trained" to
> being same as all the rest.
Uh, no. The libertarians definitely don't want to be the same as "the
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:05 am
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Tex wrote:
> "CrazyCam" <crazycam.TakeThisOut@upturnet.com.au> wrote in message
<snip>
>> Zebee,
>>
>> Please get serious.
>>
>> I am faced with the choice of voting for John Howard, a lying wee rodent,
>> or Maxine Mackew (or however it is spelt).
>
> So vote for David Leyonhjelm as your no.1, then stick Maxine ahead of Howard
No, Tex, you miss my point.
If John H. promised every licenced motorcycle rider would be issued with
a new Guzzi (or whatever!), would it be sensible to believe him given
his history.
Equally, assume Maxine made some promise, would it be believable given
she's a newbie to the party and wouldn't have the clout to fulfill a
promise even if she wanted to.
So asking any of them what they might do for motorcyclists is a bit of a
waste of time, IMHO.
BTW, who is this David Leyonhjelm? I don't like his chances of getting
his snout in the trough.
regards,
CrazyCam >> Stay informed about: Election: AMC survey |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:05 am
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It wouldnt matter.. 12 mths into the job, he would become "trained" to
being same as all the rest.
>BTW, who is this David Leyonhjelm? I don't like his chances of getting
>his snout in the trough.
>
> regards,
> CrazyCam >> Stay informed about: Election: AMC survey |
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