Ducati and Hayden?

"pablo" wrote in message

>
> It's been widely reported that Hayden travelled to Ducati and spent an
> entire day there, plus had dinner with Ducati top people. Supposedly to
> finalize an order for a personalized Desmosedici RR stradale, then again I
> haven't heard of Ducati putting prospective owners through a personal
> interview onsite...
>
> I think it is safe to assume Hayden's ready for a change, his issues with
> the new Honda must be indeed very frustrating, and probably elsewhere he
> could start with the clean slate approach that may be beneficial for him
> right now. Hopefully hayden can land a ride that suits his style and
> allows him to prove his true worth again in '08.
>
> If Stoner wins the championship, it'll be very interesting who Ducati will
> pick to be a teammate. Melandri is not a huge hit with Italian fans, I
> hear. Rossi and Ducati would be a match made in heaven, of course, and I
> would not be surprised if Rossi is ready for a change, especially with the
> Yamaha I4 seemingly being unable to keep up with others.

Who owns Ducati these days?
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"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message

>
> "pablo" wrote in message
>
>>
>> It's been widely reported that Hayden travelled to Ducati and spent an
>> entire day there, plus had dinner with Ducati top people. Supposedly to
>> finalize an order for a personalized Desmosedici RR stradale, then again
>> I haven't heard of Ducati putting prospective owners through a personal
>> interview onsite...
>>
>> I think it is safe to assume Hayden's ready for a change, his issues with
>> the new Honda must be indeed very frustrating, and probably elsewhere he
>> could start with the clean slate approach that may be beneficial for him
>> right now. Hopefully hayden can land a ride that suits his style and
>> allows him to prove his true worth again in '08.
>>
>> If Stoner wins the championship, it'll be very interesting who Ducati
>> will pick to be a teammate. Melandri is not a huge hit with Italian fans,
>> I hear. Rossi and Ducati would be a match made in heaven, of course, and
>> I would not be surprised if Rossi is ready for a change, especially with
>> the Yamaha I4 seemingly being unable to keep up with others.
>
> Who owns Ducati these days?


These guys.
http://www.investindustrial.com/Ducati.htm

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"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message


> Who owns Ducati these days?


Mobilari put together a Dago buyout no long ago and the Texans left for
greener pastures...
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On Jun 10, 6:26 pm, "pablo" wrote:
> It's been widely reported that Hayden travelled to Ducati and spent an
> entire day there, plus had dinner with Ducati top people. Supposedly to
> finalize an order for a personalized Desmosedici RR stradale, then again I
> haven't heard of Ducati putting prospective owners through a personal
> interview onsite...
>
> I think it is safe to assume Hayden's ready for a change, his issues with
> the new Honda must be indeed very frustrating, and probably elsewhere he
> could start with the clean slate approach that may be beneficial for him
> right now. Hopefully hayden can land a ride that suits his style and allows
> him to prove his true worth again in '08.
>
> If Stoner wins the championship, it'll be very interesting who Ducati will
> pick to be a teammate. Melandri is not a huge hit with Italian fans, I hear.
> Rossi and Ducati would be a match made in heaven, of course, and I would not
> be surprised if Rossi is ready for a change, especially with the Yamaha I4
> seemingly being unable to keep up with others.
>
> ...pablo

Obviously Stoner will stay with Ducati for an undetermined period as
of now. Rossi can make the best of any bike, but his association with
Fiat / Ferrari, and being an Italian seems like the PERFECT match for
Ducati (All Italian match up). The only problem I see is that Stoner
may not take a back seat to Rossi on a potential Rossi - Stoner Ducati
team, and I'm not sure he should. Stoner / Hayden maybe... I'd LOVE to
see a Rossi - Hayden / Stoner Ducati team sponsored by Fiat. Any
thoughts on these match ups?

- Kyle
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" " Mon, 11 Jun 2007
11:53:06
>Obviously Stoner will stay with Ducati for an undetermined period as
>of now. Rossi can make the best of any bike, but his association with
>Fiat / Ferrari, and being an Italian seems like the PERFECT match for
>Ducati (All Italian match up). The only problem I see is that Stoner
>may not take a back seat to Rossi on a potential Rossi - Stoner Ducati
>team, and I'm not sure he should. Stoner / Hayden maybe... I'd LOVE to
>see a Rossi - Hayden / Stoner Ducati team sponsored by Fiat. Any
>thoughts on these match ups?

Nobody's going to Ducati until Capirossi leaves.

I can't see any reason for Rossi to leave Yamaha. I equally doubt he
would leave without Burgess. And I can't see Burgess fitting into
Ducati.

If Capirossi does leave then
- Hayden
- Toseland
- Melandri
- Lorenzo
are all possibilities. But Ducati have already said that new guys to
MotoGP should go into a satellite team. And Lorenzo is almost certainly
already spoken for at Yamaha. Which leaves Hayden and Melandri. They may
prefer to have an older and cheaper partner to Stoner. So how about
Hodgson or Edwards?

It's a real shame that Hodgson has a gag order on him as tester. I'd
love to know what he thinks of the bike and how fast he is.

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"AUS" wrote in message

> On Jun 11, 9:26 am, "pablo" wrote:
>> It's been widely reported that Hayden travelled to Ducati and spent an
>> entire day there, plus had dinner with Ducati top people. Supposedly to
>> finalize an order for a personalized Desmosedici RR stradale, then again
>> I
>> haven't heard of Ducati putting prospective owners through a personal
>> interview onsite...
>>
>> I think it is safe to assume Hayden's ready for a change, his issues with
>> the new Honda must be indeed very frustrating, and probably elsewhere he
>> could start with the clean slate approach that may be beneficial for him
>> right now. Hopefully hayden can land a ride that suits his style and
>> allows
>> him to prove his true worth again in '08.
>>
>> If Stoner wins the championship, it'll be very interesting who Ducati
>> will
>> pick to be a teammate. Melandri is not a huge hit with Italian fans, I
>> hear.
>> Rossi and Ducati would be a match made in heaven, of course, and I would
>> not
>> be surprised if Rossi is ready for a change, especially with the Yamaha
>> I4
>> seemingly being unable to keep up with others.
>>
>> ...pablo
>
> Hayden at Ducati, thanks but NO thanks

Why? He beat Rossi's overrated arse last year
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On Jun 11, 7:14 am, Julian Bond wrote:
> " " Mon, 11 Jun 2007
> 11:53:06
>
> >Obviously Stoner will stay with Ducati for an undetermined period as
> >of now. Rossi can make the best of any bike, but his association with
> >Fiat / Ferrari, and being an Italian seems like the PERFECT match for
> >Ducati (All Italian match up). The only problem I see is that Stoner
> >may not take a back seat to Rossi on a potential Rossi - Stoner Ducati
> >team, and I'm not sure he should. Stoner / Hayden maybe... I'd LOVE to
> >see a Rossi - Hayden / Stoner Ducati team sponsored by Fiat. Any
> >thoughts on these match ups?
>
> Nobody's going to Ducati until Capirossi leaves.
>
> I can't see any reason for Rossi to leave Yamaha. I equally doubt he
> would leave without Burgess. And I can't see Burgess fitting into
> Ducati.
>
> If Capirossi does leave then
> - Hayden
> - Toseland
> - Melandri
> - Lorenzo
> are all possibilities. But Ducati have already said that new guys to
> MotoGP should go into a satellite team. And Lorenzo is almost certainly
> already spoken for at Yamaha. Which leaves Hayden and Melandri. They may
> prefer to have an older and cheaper partner to Stoner. So how about
> Hodgson or Edwards?
>
> It's a real shame that Hodgson has a gag order on him as tester. I'd
> love to know what he thinks of the bike and how fast he is.
>
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I hadn't heard much about Hodgson lately. He is testing for Ducati?
wow! that's news to me, but quite good news! I have always loved
Hodgson and was very disappointed to see him loose his ride in AMA.
I'd love to see Hodgson back in MotoGP on a Ducati. The AMA has got to
get their sh!t together and change the rules to allow Ducati 1200cc or
something! I hate to see nothing but inline 4's competing now. (but
AMA F-ups are a WHOLE other subject) I was somewhat sure, but just
read that Rossi is contracted to Yamaha for '07-'08. Fiat have agreed
to sponser '07-'08 as well. (looks like they are sponsoring Rossi, not
Yamaha in reality. And to touch on my previous post about a Fiat
sponsored Ducati... I didn't realize until reading the "MotoGP's house
of cards" article in the July Sport Rider magazine that Marlboro is
contracted to Ducati until 2011!! I wouldn't be suprised if they are
the only tobacco sponsor left in MotoGP by then. The sponsorship
dilema in MotoGP right now is horrible and quite depressing to me. We
can all agree that the move to 800cc really tossed things up in the
air and I think has been good for development, lap times, and racing
overall. (990cc bikes being pretty much at the end of their
development life) This is one of the best, if not THE best season of
MotoGP so far and I can't believe that no one wants to spend the money
to sponsor these troubled teams. Dorna, the factories, and tire
manufacturers have got to figure out a way to lower costs or we the
fans may have to start a collection pool! haha

- Kyle
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On Jun 12, 7:53 pm, Julian Bond >

<<<<But then KrJr has managed to stay in MotoGP.

His dad owns the team, brother getting in on the act too

Yeap, KR beat doohan to the Championship too.

I agree with G, NO to Hayden @ Ducati, No i aint anti American, Hopper
for mine is very welcome.

No old guys thanks either, very happy and satisfied with Stoner, great
match, he gets paid per results/points, he is going to be one rich guy

Loris is a issue, he has the rest of the season to turn it around or
his out.

NO to Rossi either, much as i like him [as u do] i want *Ducati* to
win on its own not with *Rossi* racing it.Yamaha will be screwed when
he leaves.Back down the toilet again...

AUS
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guig Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:54:35
>There are far better riders out there who would be a better fit, some
>of the 250 boys will obviously come up to the premier class and take
>seats. If Hayden moves to another manufacturer then the Honda America
>money won't be behind him, the best that Hayden can expect next year if
>he moves from Honda is a second seat on a customer bike, doubt he'd get
>a factory ride on any of the top teams. In fact I wouldn't be surprised
>if he "retired" from MotoGP next year and returned to the US.

But then KrJr has managed to stay in MotoGP.

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"guig" wrote in message

> On 2007-06-11 00:26:03 +0100, "pablo" said:
>
>>
>> It's been widely reported that Hayden travelled to Ducati and spent an
>> entire day there, plus had dinner with Ducati top people. Supposedly to
>> finalize an order for a personalized Desmosedici RR stradale, then again
>> I haven't heard of Ducati putting prospective owners through a personal
>> interview onsite...
>
> Could simply be a courtesy given to the current, if undeserving, World
> Champion.
>
>>
>> I think it is safe to assume Hayden's ready for a change, his issues with
>> the new Honda must be indeed very frustrating, and probably elsewhere he
>> could start with the clean slate approach that may be beneficial for him
>> right now. Hopefully hayden can land a ride that suits his style and
>> allows him to prove his true worth again in '08.
>>
>> If Stoner wins the championship, it'll be very interesting who Ducati
>> will pick to be a teammate. Melandri is not a huge hit with Italian fans,
>> I hear. Rossi and Ducati would be a match made in heaven, of course, and
>> I would not be surprised if Rossi is ready for a change, especially with
>> the Yamaha I4 seemingly being unable to keep up with others.
>>
>> ...pablo
>
> Hayden on a Ducati? Fuck No!!
>
> There are far better riders out there who would be a better fit, some of
> the 250 boys will obviously come up to the premier class and take seats.
> If Hayden moves to another manufacturer then the Honda America money won't
> be behind him, the best that Hayden can expect next year if he moves from
> Honda is a second seat on a customer bike, doubt he'd get a factory ride
> on any of the top teams. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he "retired"
> from MotoGP next year and returned to the US.
>
dream on troll boy
he's got a two year deal.
he's not going anywhere
perhaps the 2008 Honda won't be as poor as the 2007 version seems to be and
Michelin willl get their game back.
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T3 predicts:


> Heh, if the King doesn't come up with some serious funding soon I imagine
> all the royal family will be coming home and prolly much to the detriment of
> MGP too...

How do I get invited to the minibike races when they do?

Oh, that reminds me :
Sturd Ranch and Raceway
4th Annual Last Annual Mini Bike Classic

July 1, east of Cleveland, Ohio

Be there or be rhomboid.


Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.
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