Congrats on the new SV, Bob!

>>>And yet you have no problem believing in the great father in the sky?
>>
>> Exactly. Very observant of you.I tell you what you can be spoon fed
>> what the UN is telling you and I will stick to my own routine. Those
>> ferriners always know what is best for Americans right?
>
> Ferriners? I think you mean foreigners? Oh that was an insult. Have you
> ever traveled outside the US or your own little part of America?

He can't get permission from the wife. Plus his utterly fantastic job only
lays him off in the winter, when the wife requires him to sit around and rub
her feet rather than get out and RIDE.


>
> I'm pretty sure Americans don't know what is best for Americans, we
> elected Bush twice!
>
> At least I am not spoon fed bullshit from priests and preachers.

But you appear to know nothing about the great and wonderful and twice
elected administration!!
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob! 

<tomorrow.RemoveThis@erols.com> wrote in message
news:1190383601.709288.141930@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 20, 10:14 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> At least I am not spoon fed bullshit from priests and preachers.
>
> I've never met a Methodist preacher who spoon feeds anyone anything,
> let alone bullshit. You do realize that faith is not something that
> can be taught, not something that can be learned, not something that
> can be proven, not something that can be forced on anyone for any
> reason, don't you? That's why they call it faith.


I dunno about that.
I saw Jesus Camp, and I'm pretty sure they were trying to teach faith in it.
BTW, this is more Pentecostal, as opposed to Methodist.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486358/


--

Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Kiddo
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob! 

"Steve Mackay" <steve_mackay.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46f27af0$0$7520$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> saddlebag wrote:
> > On Sep 19, 7:31 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:1190243445.998959.306770@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >>> On Sep 19, 1:18 pm, "Andrew"
> >>> <yogig.no.spamm.spam....DeleteThis@hotmail.nospamm.com> wrote:
> >>>> I saw in another thread you bought the 07.
> >>>> Congrats! Use it well.
> >>>> I hope to see some pics soon.
> >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>> Thanks, Andrew. Promise pics after Sarurday -
> >>> On the new Street Triple I know were both Triumph lovers but I just
> >>> couldn't wait see see how that all pans out NEXT year. Thanks again.
> >>> Bob Nixon.
> >> There is a used 2002 VStrom 650 for sale locally ($4800) with all the
> >> aftermarket goodies (hard cases, crash bars, heated grips, etc). I am sure
> >> that bike is a good deal on bike that really fits my needs / desires, but I
> >> can't get that damned Ducati GT1000 out of my mind. The Suzi is half the
> >> price and if I sold my F4i, I'm only out a few bucks.
> >>
> >> The Vstroms just don't speak to me, perhaps I should go in a demand a test
> >> ride. My birthday is coming up. Damn you Ducati.
> >
> > It's only money. Looks like we only got a very little time left to
> > enjoy it anyway.
> >
> > http://environment.independent.co.uk/climate_change/article2976669.ece
> >
> > "A rise of two degrees centigrade in global temperatures - the point
> > considered to be the threshold for catastrophic climate change which
> > will expose millions to drought, hunger and flooding - is now "very
> > unlikely" to be avoided, the world's leading climate scientists said
> > yesterday.
> >
> > The latest study from the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on
> > Climate Change (IPCC) put the inevitability of drastic global warming
> > in the starkest terms yet, stating that major impacts on parts of the
> > world - in particular Africa, Asian river deltas, low-lying islands
> > and the Arctic - are unavoidable and the focus must be on adapting
> > life to survive the most devastating changes."
> >
> > They are great bikes and in my experience they take excellent care of
> > their customers. Just do it.
> >
> >
> Why, OH WHY do you guys have to turn every thread political?

Ok Steve,

Bob, what oil do you plan to use in the new bike?
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob! 

On Sep 21, 9:52 am, "Brutus" <se6... RemoveThis @teleport.com> wrote:
> "Steve Mackay" <steve_mac... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:46f27af0$0$7520$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > saddlebag wrote:
> > > On Sep 19, 7:31 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> > >> "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >>news:1190243445.998959.306770@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >>> On Sep 19, 1:18 pm, "Andrew"
> > >>> <yogig.no.spamm.spam... RemoveThis @hotmail.nospamm.com> wrote:
> > >>>> I saw in another thread you bought the 07.
> > >>>> Congrats! Use it well.
> > >>>> I hope to see some pics soon.
> > >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >>> Thanks, Andrew. Promise pics after Sarurday -
> > >>> On the new Street Triple I know were both Triumph lovers but I just
> > >>> couldn't wait see see how that all pans out NEXT year. Thanks again.
> > >>> Bob Nixon.
> > >> There is a used 2002 VStrom 650 for sale locally ($4800) with all the
> > >> aftermarket goodies (hard cases, crash bars, heated grips, etc). I am sure
> > >> that bike is a good deal on bike that really fits my needs / desires, but I
> > >> can't get that damned Ducati GT1000 out of my mind. The Suzi is half the
> > >> price and if I sold my F4i, I'm only out a few bucks.
>
> > >> The Vstroms just don't speak to me, perhaps I should go in a demand a test
> > >> ride. My birthday is coming up. Damn you Ducati.
>
> > > It's only money. Looks like we only got a very little time left to
> > > enjoy it anyway.
>
> > >http://environment.independent.co.uk/climate_change/article2976669.ece
>
> > > "A rise of two degrees centigrade in global temperatures - the point
> > > considered to be the threshold for catastrophic climate change which
> > > will expose millions to drought, hunger and flooding - is now "very
> > > unlikely" to be avoided, the world's leading climate scientists said
> > > yesterday.
>
> > > The latest study from the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on
> > > Climate Change (IPCC) put the inevitability of drastic global warming
> > > in the starkest terms yet, stating that major impacts on parts of the
> > > world - in particular Africa, Asian river deltas, low-lying islands
> > > and the Arctic - are unavoidable and the focus must be on adapting
> > > life to survive the most devastating changes."
>
> > > They are great bikes and in my experience they take excellent care of
> > > their customers. Just do it.
>
> > Why, OH WHY do you guys have to turn every thread political?
>
> Ok Steve,
>
> Bob, what oil do you plan to use in the new bike? - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oil thread now, eh:) Castrol R4.

Bob Nixon.
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob! 

"Bob Nixon" <bigrex2005.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1190396319.441195.148390@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 21, 9:52 am, "Brutus" <se6....TakeThisOut@teleport.com> wrote:
>> "Steve Mackay" <steve_mac....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:46f27af0$0$7520$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > saddlebag wrote:
>> > > On Sep 19, 7:31 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > >> "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >>news:1190243445.998959.306770@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > >>> On Sep 19, 1:18 pm, "Andrew"
>> > >>> <yogig.no.spamm.spam....TakeThisOut@hotmail.nospamm.com> wrote:
>> > >>>> I saw in another thread you bought the 07.
>> > >>>> Congrats! Use it well.
>> > >>>> I hope to see some pics soon.
>> > >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > >>> Thanks, Andrew. Promise pics after Sarurday -
>> > >>> On the new Street Triple I know were both Triumph lovers but I just
>> > >>> couldn't wait see see how that all pans out NEXT year. Thanks
>> > >>> again.
>> > >>> Bob Nixon.
>> > >> There is a used 2002 VStrom 650 for sale locally ($4800) with all
>> > >> the
>> > >> aftermarket goodies (hard cases, crash bars, heated grips, etc). I
>> > >> am sure
>> > >> that bike is a good deal on bike that really fits my needs /
>> > >> desires, but I
>> > >> can't get that damned Ducati GT1000 out of my mind. The Suzi is
>> > >> half the
>> > >> price and if I sold my F4i, I'm only out a few bucks.
>>
>> > >> The Vstroms just don't speak to me, perhaps I should go in a demand
>> > >> a test
>> > >> ride. My birthday is coming up. Damn you Ducati.
>>
>> > > It's only money. Looks like we only got a very little time left to
>> > > enjoy it anyway.
>>
>> > >http://environment.independent.co.uk/climate_change/article2976669.ece
>>
>> > > "A rise of two degrees centigrade in global temperatures - the point
>> > > considered to be the threshold for catastrophic climate change which
>> > > will expose millions to drought, hunger and flooding - is now "very
>> > > unlikely" to be avoided, the world's leading climate scientists said
>> > > yesterday.
>>
>> > > The latest study from the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on
>> > > Climate Change (IPCC) put the inevitability of drastic global warming
>> > > in the starkest terms yet, stating that major impacts on parts of the
>> > > world - in particular Africa, Asian river deltas, low-lying islands
>> > > and the Arctic - are unavoidable and the focus must be on adapting
>> > > life to survive the most devastating changes."
>>
>> > > They are great bikes and in my experience they take excellent care of
>> > > their customers. Just do it.
>>
>> > Why, OH WHY do you guys have to turn every thread political?
>>
>> Ok Steve,
>>
>> Bob, what oil do you plan to use in the new bike? - Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Oil thread now, eh:) Castrol R4.
>
> Bob Nixon.
>

I dunno, it's your brand new baby, are you sure you shouldn't feed it Pure
Suzuki Premium oil?
BTW, do new bikes still come with break in oil? It's been since 2000 that I
bought a new bike.


--

Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Kiddo
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob! 

On Sep 21, 11:45 am, "Andrew"
<yogig.no.spam.mmm.sp....DeleteThis@n.o.sp.am....@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <tomor....DeleteThis@erols.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1190383601.709288.141930@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Sep 20, 10:14 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> At least I am not spoon fed bullshit from priests and preachers.
>
> > I've never met a Methodist preacher who spoon feeds anyone anything,
> > let alone bullshit. You do realize that faith is not something that
> > can be taught, not something that can be learned, not something that
> > can be proven, not something that can be forced on anyone for any
> > reason, don't you? That's why they call it faith.
>
> I dunno about that.
> I saw Jesus Camp, and I'm pretty sure they were trying to teach faith in it.
> BTW, this is more Pentecostal, as opposed to Methodist.
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486358/

I've been to southern Baptist camp meetings, Pentecostal revivals, and
spent a year at an independent Baptist church in southwestern
Virginia. None of the evangelism that I've witnessed has been
anything like that which is described in that movie description.

That such things happen is true, that they are representative of
mainstream Christian activisim is debatable at besr
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob! 

Andrew wrote:
>
> "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2005.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1190396319.441195.148390@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Sep 21, 9:52 am, "Brutus" <se6....DeleteThis@teleport.com> wrote:
>>> "Steve Mackay" <steve_mac....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:46f27af0$0$7520$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > saddlebag wrote:
>>> > > On Sep 19, 7:31 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> > >> "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> > >>news:1190243445.998959.306770@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> > >>> On Sep 19, 1:18 pm, "Andrew"
>>> > >>> <yogig.no.spamm.spam....DeleteThis@hotmail.nospamm.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>> I saw in another thread you bought the 07.
>>> > >>>> Congrats! Use it well.
>>> > >>>> I hope to see some pics soon.
>>> > >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> > >>> Thanks, Andrew. Promise pics after Sarurday -
>>> > >>> On the new Street Triple I know were both Triumph lovers but I
>>> just
>>> > >>> couldn't wait see see how that all pans out NEXT year. Thanks >
>>> >>> again.
>>> > >>> Bob Nixon.
>>> > >> There is a used 2002 VStrom 650 for sale locally ($4800) with
>>> all > >> the
>>> > >> aftermarket goodies (hard cases, crash bars, heated grips,
>>> etc). I > >> am sure
>>> > >> that bike is a good deal on bike that really fits my needs / >
>>> >> desires, but I
>>> > >> can't get that damned Ducati GT1000 out of my mind. The Suzi is
>>> > >> half the
>>> > >> price and if I sold my F4i, I'm only out a few bucks.
>>>
>>> > >> The Vstroms just don't speak to me, perhaps I should go in a
>>> demand > >> a test
>>> > >> ride. My birthday is coming up. Damn you Ducati.
>>>
>>> > > It's only money. Looks like we only got a very little time left to
>>> > > enjoy it anyway.
>>>
>>> >
>>> >http://environment.independent.co.uk/climate_change/article2976669.ece
>>>
>>> > > "A rise of two degrees centigrade in global temperatures - the point
>>> > > considered to be the threshold for catastrophic climate change which
>>> > > will expose millions to drought, hunger and flooding - is now "very
>>> > > unlikely" to be avoided, the world's leading climate scientists said
>>> > > yesterday.
>>>
>>> > > The latest study from the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on
>>> > > Climate Change (IPCC) put the inevitability of drastic global
>>> warming
>>> > > in the starkest terms yet, stating that major impacts on parts of
>>> the
>>> > > world - in particular Africa, Asian river deltas, low-lying islands
>>> > > and the Arctic - are unavoidable and the focus must be on adapting
>>> > > life to survive the most devastating changes."
>>>
>>> > > They are great bikes and in my experience they take excellent
>>> care of
>>> > > their customers. Just do it.
>>>
>>> > Why, OH WHY do you guys have to turn every thread political?
>>>
>>> Ok Steve,
>>>
>>> Bob, what oil do you plan to use in the new bike? - Hide quoted
>>> text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Oil thread now, eh:) Castrol R4.
>>
>> Bob Nixon.
>>
>
> I dunno, it's your brand new baby, are you sure you shouldn't feed it
> Pure Suzuki Premium oil?
> BTW, do new bikes still come with break in oil? It's been since 2000
> that I bought a new bike.
>
>
Both my '06 and '07 Buells did.
I asked a Buell powertrain engineer if I should change it out to
something a bit lighter than 20W50 when I was breaking my '07 in sub 30F
temps. He advised against it, saying something about the high detergents
in the 'break in' oil.
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob! 

"Andrew" <yogig.no.spam.mmm.spam. DeleteThis @n.o.sp.am.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5liftcF8ev3bU1@mid.individual.net...



> > Oil thread now, eh:) Castrol R4.
> >
> > Bob Nixon.
> >
>
> I dunno, it's your brand new baby, are you sure you shouldn't feed it Pure
> Suzuki Premium oil?
> BTW, do new bikes still come with break in oil? It's been since 2000 that I
> bought a new bike.

Ducati's come from the factory where BTW, I'm told that they are red-lined 3 times on the production
line.

They all come with SHELL Advance Ultra 4 a synthetic which I believe is only avalable in Europe.

In the shop manual they (honest to God) note:Change the oil when the engine is warm (but with the
engine stopped).

Of some interest is their recommendation to mix coolant at 35-40% to water--many car manufacturers
recommend a classic 50/50 mixture.The higher percentage of water should help tranfer heat off of the
engine and into the radiator.







> Andrew
> 00 Daytona
> 00 Speed Triple
> 71 Kawi H1
> 05 Kiddo
>
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob! 

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:13:45 -0600, "TroytheTroll"
<f4_boy DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>> Greenhouse gas emissions do not occur naturally? Greenhouse gases are
>> caused by? Call me cynical but I have a hard time believing anything I
>> hear especially when the UN agrees with it. I have a hard time
>> believing anything our own politicians say let alone a bunch of ferrin
>> socialists.
>
>I'm a fan of scientists myself, furrin or not,

That's ferrin.

> and the UN panel which pumps
>out climate change reports tends to be populated with them.

Sure and not one of them Ferrin scientists who I wouldn't trust with a
nickel is politically motivated? How's about naming some of these
scientists? Since you being a true fan of them my guess is you would
know them by name.


> None with
>specialties in Renaissance information

That's Renaissance reformation.That is her major but she is minored in
several other areas as well. Not many women I know can hold a candle
to her when it comes to intelligence. The thing I really like about
her and even more importantly is, she is a very kind and generous
person.


> because seriously, no one really
>cares, but still, scientists are scientists.

And *real* scientists carry PHD's
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob! 

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:06:41 -0700, "tomorrow@erols.com"
<tomorrow.DeleteThis@erols.com> wrote:

>On Sep 20, 10:14 pm, "BryanUT" <nestl....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> At least I am not spoon fed bullshit from priests and preachers.
>
>I've never met a Methodist preacher who spoon feeds anyone anything,
>let alone bullshit. You do realize that faith is not something that
>can be taught, not something that can be learned, not something that
>can be proven, not something that can be forced on anyone for any
>reason, don't you? That's why they call it faith.
>
>Otoh, the statistics that some are convinced "prove" that humans are
>both causing global warming AND that global warming is a disaster, are
>subject to revision, subject to interpretation, subject to political
>nudging, and certainly subject to misuse by U.N. (and other)
>politicians who see them as a lever to use in prying more money loose
>from the west to be thrown at the third world. Now, whether one
>thinks this is a good idea or not is NOT the point. The point is that
>such misuse of "scientific knowledge" has taken place, is taking
>place, and will continue to take place. The U.N. is NOT an
>uninvolved, neutral, bystander in the global climate political debate.

Thank you very much Tim. You said so eloquently what I was so clumsily
trying to say. I should have paid more attention in school.
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob! 

On Sep 20, 10:42 pm, alf <ask@me> wrote:
> saddlebag wrote:
> >>>>> Why, OH WHY do you guys have to turn every thread political?
> >>>> because they think they know everything about motorcycles ...
> >>> Enlighten us, Sensei!
> >> there is no reason to get enlightened here.
>
> >> if you know everything about motorcycles
> >> there is no point to discuss it.
>
> > But according to you we don't, we only *think* we do.
> > So enlighten already small and furry one.
>
> there is polish saying 'hit the table and scissors will speak'

That does it fuzzy, time for your haircut.
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob! 

>> and the UN panel which pumps
>>out climate change reports tends to be populated with them.
>
> Sure and not one of them Ferrin scientists who I wouldn't trust with a
> nickel is politically motivated? How's about naming some of these
> scientists? Since you being a true fan of them my guess is you would
> know them by name.

I'm familiar by name with only 2, and I group involved in the report you are
quoting was quite substantial. I don't think political motivation is near
the size and scope you seem to assume in quite a few of your ideas Mike.


>
> Not many women I know can hold a candle
> to her when it comes to intelligence. The thing I really like about
> her and even more importantly is, she is a very kind and generous
> person.
>

Kind and generous counts for alot more than your inexperience with real
smart people. I only know a few very smart people, only one of whom has a
PhD I might add.


>
>> because seriously, no one really
>>cares, but still, scientists are scientists.
>
> And *real* scientists carry PHD's

Some do. And some PhD's don't have the wherewithal to be scientists.
Seriously Mike, its call SCIENCEtist for a reason, the reason being they
don't allow art history and basket weavers into the club. Unless of course
your wife has a REAL degree hidden somewhere behind her PhD...she didn't
sneak a Chem E or astrophysics or MS in chemistry or something good in there
did she, when you weren't looking?
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob! 

saddlebag wrote:
> On Sep 20, 10:42 pm, alf <ask@me> wrote:
>> saddlebag wrote:
>>>>>>> Why, OH WHY do you guys have to turn every thread political?
>>>>>> because they think they know everything about motorcycles ...
>>>>> Enlighten us, Sensei!
>>>> there is no reason to get enlightened here.
>>>> if you know everything about motorcycles
>>>> there is no point to discuss it.
>>
>>> But according to you we don't, we only *think* we do.
>>> So enlighten already small and furry one.
>> there is polish saying 'hit the table and scissors will speak'
>
> That does it fuzzy, time for your haircut.
>

so what - life is fuzzy, what democrats never comprehended.
they want everything spelled out.

but since it is just direct translation from polish language, I offer
you explanation ...
 >> Stay informed about: Congrats on the new SV, Bob!