Bike lifts

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:00:16 GMT, "The Longhaired Boxhead via
MotorcycleKB.com" wrote:

>crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>>Makro are flogging off some nice hydraulic bike lifts for 39.99+vat from
>>wednesday for those who have (or can blag) a Makro card.
>>
>>Almost certainly a cheap chinese import, but they look like good value.
>
>Only if the bike doesn't come crashing down. Which is why I bought a more
>expensive one from Machine Mart.

I can't imagine what sort of lift you get for forty quid. Not one I
think I'd want to put my bike on.

Even the MM ones are chinese made anyway - I got one 2nd hand, but it
is a proper solid piece of kit, and works really well.
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Champ wrote:
>>> >>Makro are flogging off some nice hydraulic bike lifts for 39.99+vat from
>>> >>wednesday for those who have (or can blag) a Makro card.
>[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>>select "Non Food Promo 18" and take a look on the last-but-one page of the
>>PDF. It actually looks more solid than the Machine Mart version.
>
>Ah. we're not talking about the same thing at all.
>
>I have one of these:
>http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cml3-air-foot-pedal-operated-hydraulic/path/vehicle-lifts
>
>I'm not even sure how you'd use the one shown in the Makro pdf - what
>does the lift actually bear against on the bike?

It goes under the frame, hopefully with the bike's center of gravity over the
two rails. Lifts the bike using the bottom frame rails...

They're rather useful if you need to get the wheels off the ground and do
work fairly well even with low bikes like choppers and Harleys. They're also
very useful if you're stripping bikes - when I broke the last Motosport, I
just strapped it to the lift, got it off the ground and it was in bits in no
time at all.

Only problems are their restricted working heights (mine goes up to about 50-
60cm IIRC) and the fact that they don't work well on bikes that have no
bottom frame rails (like, erm, a Laverda). And it's also not a good idea to
try and use them on bikes that have exhaust pipes that are lower than the
frame rails. DAMHIKIJK, OK?

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The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
> Champ wrote:

>>I'm not even sure how you'd use the one shown in the Makro pdf - what
>>does the lift actually bear against on the bike?
>
>
> It goes under the frame, hopefully with the bike's center of gravity over the
> two rails. Lifts the bike using the bottom frame rails...
>
> They're rather useful if you need to get the wheels off the ground and do
> work fairly well even with low bikes like choppers and Harleys. They're also
> very useful if you're stripping bikes - when I broke the last Motosport, I
> just strapped it to the lift, got it off the ground and it was in bits in no
> time at all.
>
> Only problems are their restricted working heights (mine goes up to about 50-
> 60cm IIRC) and the fact that they don't work well on bikes that have no
> bottom frame rails (like, erm, a Laverda). And it's also not a good idea to
> try and use them on bikes that have exhaust pipes that are lower than the
> frame rails. DAMHIKIJK, OK?

Wot the boxhead said. Mine came with a couple of ratchet straps to cinch
the bike down to the rails of the lift, plus an adapter plate with screw
jacks and vee blocks to adapt to bikes with odd undercarriages. I used
the adapter plate as a starting point for a custom weldment for my SV:

http://www.visi.com/~olsonm/lift/

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Champ wrote:
>
> Ah. we're not talking about the same thing at all.
>
> I have one of these:
> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cml3-air-foot-pedal-...rated-h
>
> I'm not even sure how you'd use the one shown in the Makro pdf - what
> does the lift actually bear against on the bike?

It is actually a platform lift so it is handy for other uses.
You wheel it in from the side and jack it up under the frame below the
engine. This leaves both wheels free for brake work etc.
Some dafter bikes have bits projecting below the frame, so you may need to
contrapt some packing to make sure that it is actually lifting the frame.
As with all lifts it is wise to add some rachet straps to prevent the
bike tipping.

Naturally some idiot will end up jacking the sump drain plug, but however
much you make things foolproof the world will always manage to produce
a bigger idiot.
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The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
> Champ wrote:
>>>>>> Makro are flogging off some nice hydraulic bike lifts for
>>>>>> 39.99+vat from wednesday for those who have (or can blag) a
>>>>>> Makro card.
>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>>> select "Non Food Promo 18" and take a look on the last-but-one page
>>> of the PDF. It actually looks more solid than the Machine Mart
>>> version.
>>
>> Ah. we're not talking about the same thing at all.
>>
>> I have one of these:
>> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cml3-air-foot-pedal-...rated-h
>>
>> I'm not even sure how you'd use the one shown in the Makro pdf - what
>> does the lift actually bear against on the bike?
>
> It goes under the frame, hopefully with the bike's center of gravity
> over the two rails. Lifts the bike using the bottom frame rails...

The item on page 27 did cause a minor "Moore Eyebrow" moment

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'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:39:52 GMT, "The Longhaired Boxhead via
MotorcycleKB.com" wrote:

>>I'm not even sure how you'd use the one shown in the Makro pdf - what
>>does the lift actually bear against on the bike?
>
>It goes under the frame, hopefully with the bike's center of gravity over the
>two rails. Lifts the bike using the bottom frame rails...

Well that's all very well assuming your bike actually has bottom frame
rails None of my 3 bikes would fit particularly well, if at all,
on such a device.

And, for a fully faired bike, you'd have to remove the fairing lowers
first, which sort of defeats the object of having a work bench in the
first place.
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Champ
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In message , Champ
writes
>On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:39:52 GMT, "The Longhaired Boxhead via
>MotorcycleKB.com" wrote:
>
>>>I'm not even sure how you'd use the one shown in the Makro pdf - what
>>>does the lift actually bear against on the bike?
>>
>>It goes under the frame, hopefully with the bike's center of gravity over the
>>two rails. Lifts the bike using the bottom frame rails...
>
>Well that's all very well assuming your bike actually has bottom frame
>rails None of my 3 bikes would fit particularly well, if at all,
>on such a device.
>
>And, for a fully faired bike, you'd have to remove the fairing lowers
>first, which sort of defeats the object of having a work bench in the
>first place.

Well your Turbo should have bottom frame rails, but it's also got an
exhaust that sits below them. I can't think of any >125cc bikes I've
ever owned where this type of lift would be suitable.

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RD350LC2 GPZ750 Turbo
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mike. buckley wrote:
> In message , Champ
> writes
>> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:39:52 GMT, "The Longhaired Boxhead via
>> MotorcycleKB.com" wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm not even sure how you'd use the one shown in the Makro pdf -
>>>> what does the lift actually bear against on the bike?
>>>
>>> It goes under the frame, hopefully with the bike's center of
>>> gravity over the two rails. Lifts the bike using the bottom frame
>>> rails...
>>
>> Well that's all very well assuming your bike actually has bottom
>> frame rails None of my 3 bikes would fit particularly well, if
>> at all, on such a device.
>>
>> And, for a fully faired bike, you'd have to remove the fairing lowers
>> first, which sort of defeats the object of having a work bench in the
>> first place.
>
> Well your Turbo should have bottom frame rails, but it's also got an
> exhaust that sits below them. I can't think of any >125cc bikes I've
> ever owned where this type of lift would be suitable.

IIRC they were originally designed for Hardlys.

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Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
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"Hog" writes:

> mike. buckley wrote:
>> Well your Turbo should have bottom frame rails, but it's also got an
>> exhaust that sits below them. I can't think of any >125cc bikes I've
>> ever owned where this type of lift would be suitable.
>
> IIRC they were originally designed for Hardlys.

Yup.

And this Boxhead here has managed to acquire the one model that doesn't
work with these stands...

Oh well, guess that's an excuse to buy a proper lift when I'm back from
holiday.

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Timo Geusch wrote:
> "Hog" writes:
>
>> mike. buckley wrote:
>>> Well your Turbo should have bottom frame rails, but it's also got an
>>> exhaust that sits below them. I can't think of any >125cc bikes
>>> I've ever owned where this type of lift would be suitable.
>>
>> IIRC they were originally designed for Hardlys.
>
> Yup.
>
> And this Boxhead here has managed to acquire the one model that
> doesn't work with these stands...
>
> Oh well, guess that's an excuse to buy a proper lift when I'm back
> from holiday.

It isn't in your sig then?

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Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
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"Hog" writes:

> Timo Geusch wrote:
>> "Hog" writes:
>>
>>> mike. buckley wrote:
>>>> Well your Turbo should have bottom frame rails, but it's also got an
>>>> exhaust that sits below them. I can't think of any >125cc bikes
>>>> I've ever owned where this type of lift would be suitable.
>>>
>>> IIRC they were originally designed for Hardlys.
>>
>> Yup.
>>
>> And this Boxhead here has managed to acquire the one model that
>> doesn't work with these stands...
>>
>> Oh well, guess that's an excuse to buy a proper lift when I'm back
>> from holiday.
>
> It isn't in your sig then?

Not yet, no.

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Laverda SF2 BOTAFOF #33
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Timo Geusch wrote:
> "Hog" writes:
>
>> Timo Geusch wrote:
>>> "Hog" writes:
>>>
>>>> mike. buckley wrote:
>>>>> Well your Turbo should have bottom frame rails, but it's also got
>>>>> an exhaust that sits below them. I can't think of any >125cc
>>>>> bikes I've ever owned where this type of lift would be suitable.
>>>>
>>>> IIRC they were originally designed for Hardlys.
>>>
>>> Yup.
>>>
>>> And this Boxhead here has managed to acquire the one model that
>>> doesn't work with these stands...
>>>
>>> Oh well, guess that's an excuse to buy a proper lift when I'm back
>>> from holiday.
>>
>> It isn't in your sig then?
>
> Not yet, no.

Ah perhaps motzarella or me missed something!

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Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
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