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Bob Myers

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:07 pm
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<obbzerver RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb 26, 2:48 am, "P. Roehling" <nowayj... RemoveThis @uh-uh.edu> wrote:
>
>> Until a couple of years ago I was a track instructor for the Motorcycle
>> Safety Institute.
>
>
> "Motorcycle Safety" is an oxymoron.

Millions of riders who every year ride thousands of
miles each might disagree with that statement.

I take it you have the experience with motorcycling
to make this sort of judgement in the first place - right?

Bob M.

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The Older Gentleman

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:25 pm
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<obbzerver.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> And some soldiers come back from a war zone without being shot, but it
> doesn't alter that their odds of being hurt are higher than most
> people's just because of the inherent nature of the circumstances.

And some soldiers recognise the danger and can minimise it.

"Oh, I know that sound. That's the sound of a shrapnel shell from a
howitzer. DUCK!"

BANG!

"Oh, that new recruit didn't know what I know. He's toast."

Or didn't you think that?

Same applies to some motorcyclists.

Never mind. Continue with your preconceptions, troll. You're making
yourself look silly.


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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:08 am
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On Feb 27, 6:47 am, "Justin" <n....RemoveThis@spam.com> wrote:
> In rec.motorcycles obbzer....RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> : They're the one who chose to ride around on only 2 spoked wheels and
> : exposed to the great outdoors.
>
> You need a hobby.  I mean, seriously, go and find something which takes up
> your time


So you feel your above babbling is the best way to spend your time?
What I realize it translates to is "Don't piss on my parade man, I
don't wanna hear the truth..."

Simple reality aversion.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:42 am
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:40:29 -0800 (PST), obbzerver.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:

> Beliefs based on denial of reality are something to be
>viewed with disdain.

Bingo. Which is why we all think you're such an idiot. The reality is,
for people who learn how to do it, motorcycling is a relatively safe
endeavor. (Those statistics that make you think it's so dangerous are
skewed by the fact that most crashes happen to novices. For example,
I've ridden over 20 years and a few hundred thousand miles without
crashing.) OTOH, driving your own vehicle is more dangerous than
taking public transport. If you're so uptight about dangerous
behavior, you don't drive, do you? Or live in a dangerous place? Or
work in a dangerous profession? Of course, you wouldn't be that
hipocritical.

Your beliefs are so blissfully ignorant of reality as to be laughable.

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:47 am
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In rec.motorcycles obbzerver RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:

: They're the one who chose to ride around on only 2 spoked wheels and
: exposed to the great outdoors.

You need a hobby. I mean, seriously, go and find something which takes up
your time so that you're productively contributing to at least your own
growth and development. Currently you're sitting around making an ass out
of yourself by not thinking through your statements very much before
posting them. We've seen your type before and we'll see them again,
you're not special and you have better things to do.

Justin
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_ Prof. Jonez _

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:10 pm
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RonaldLaPread wrote:
> (news groups trimmed)
>
> jjs, the cross posting moron wrote:
>
>>> According to police, McPhatter was
>>> ejected 100 feet, hitting the ground at an impact rate of 140 mph.
>>
>>
>> One source reports that he was doing 70 miles an hour, "keeping up
>> with traffic". So maybe the reporter pulled a number out of his ass
>> figuring the jacket cut the damage to the equivalent of 50% or
>> ~35mph (besides the air bag the jacket has armor). The dimwit
>> reporter multiplied instead of dividing.
>> "One of his companions went over to him fearing the worst not even
>> checking for vital signs and protecting his friend by shielding cars
>> from his body."The reporter can't write, either.
>
> Who cares?
> "Sources" are not facts.

Neither is yo' mama ...
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Harry K

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:32 pm
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On Feb 29, 4:58 pm, "Trippers day time" <todayyes12....RemoveThis@yahoo.com.>
wrote:
> "Scott in SoCal" <scottenazt....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:j088s39ujr49f280b6bce6j4mi10ule2aa@4ax.com...> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:12:29 -0800, " QUEST" <deytrg....RemoveThis@yahoo.com.tw>
> > wrote:
>
> >>It is impossible to be cut off unless you are following too close.
>
> > I nominate the above for "True Statement of the Year."
> > --
>
> If you ride about 1% slower than traffic, follow at least 2 seconds and dont
> create
> a so called blind spot by riding there you cannot be cut off
> I'll give you $50,000 if you can cut me off

How about cars plain not seeing you? I bought my first motorcycle in
Syracuse NY. Departed the dealer's lot and went two blocks in the
right hand lane (2 lanes my direction). Red light. I stopped and
like all new riders, was 'blipping' the throttle waiting for the
green. Get green and proceed straight. Car that was in the lane to
my left _with his passenger side window OPEN, tries to make a right
turn. He wore a boot print in the passenger door. No, I didn't go
down. Mind you that we were both nosed up to the stop line and I was
in his view had he but looked right.

Motorcyclist's fault?

Harry K
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.p.jm

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:43 pm
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:04 -0800 (PST), Harry K
<turnkey4099.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:


>
>Motorcyclist's fault?

Pretty irrelevant, compared to 'avoid the accident'.


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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:59 am
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On Feb 29, 7:43 pm, .p.jm.TakeThisOut@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:04 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>
> <turnkey4....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Motorcyclist's fault?
>
>         Pretty irrelevant, compared to 'avoid the accident'.
>
> --
> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>
> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
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> Free demo now available onlinehttp://pmilligan.net/palm/

And just how was I supposed to do that? Not ride at all I guess would
do it.

Harry K
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:33 am
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:59:54 -0800 (PST), Harry K
<turnkey4099.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 29, 7:43 pm, .p.jm.RemoveThis@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:04 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>>
>> <turnkey4....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Motorcyclist's fault?
>>
>>         Pretty irrelevant, compared to 'avoid the accident'.
>And just how was I supposed to do that?

Beats me - I wasn't there. My point stands. It does not
direct blame, it says 'the blame is a secondary issue'.



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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:33 am
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..p.jm DeleteThis @see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:59:54 -0800 (PST), Harry K
> <turnkey4099 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 29, 7:43 pm, .p.jm DeleteThis @see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:04 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>>>
>>> <turnkey4... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Motorcyclist's fault?
>>> Pretty irrelevant, compared to 'avoid the accident'.
>> And just how was I supposed to do that?
>
> Beats me - I wasn't there. My point stands. It does not
> direct blame, it says 'the blame is a secondary issue'.
>
>
>

How's life there on Bizzaro world? *This* litigious world demands blame
be the primary issue, and gets it.

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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:47 pm
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On Mar 1, 8:33 am, .p.jm RemoveThis @see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:59:54 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>
> <turnkey4... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 29, 7:43 pm, .p.jm RemoveThis @see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> >> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:04 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>
> >> <turnkey4... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Motorcyclist's fault?
>
> >>         Pretty irrelevant, compared to 'avoid the accident'.
> >And just how was I supposed to do that?
>
>         Beats me - I wasn't there.  My point stands.  It does not
> direct blame, it says 'the blame is a secondary issue'.
>

I suspect that that somehow makes sense to you. Not sure that I care
to hear what sense though.

Harry K
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:56 pm
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:47:38 -0800 (PST), Harry K
<turnkey4099.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 1, 8:33 am, .p.jm.RemoveThis@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:59:54 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>>
>> <turnkey4....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 29, 7:43 pm, .p.jm.RemoveThis@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:04 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>>
>> >> <turnkey4....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Motorcyclist's fault?
>>
>> >>         Pretty irrelevant, compared to 'avoid the accident'.
>> >And just how was I supposed to do that?
>>
>>         Beats me - I wasn't there.  My point stands.  It does not
>> direct blame, it says 'the blame is a secondary issue'.
>>
>
>I suspect that that somehow makes sense to you. Not sure that I care
>to hear what sense though.
>
>Harry K

Good, because I'm fairly sure I can't be bothered explaining
it to you.


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