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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:42 am
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on 10/24/07 8:16 AM, Vaughn wrote:
> Thanks for that - for $40 it beats anything else I've seen. I'm gonna
> pick one up for road trips.
I've had one for several years now, been on a few road trips with it, and I
have no complaints. It's solidly built and is easier to use than I initially
thought it would be. Here's my procedure for use, which differs slightly
from what's shown online.
0) Make sure your front brake is solidly held, and that your front tire
won't slip forward. A clean, paved surface is best.
1) To put the bike up on the Quick Stand, turn the front wheel all the way
left, with the bike leaning on the side stand (to the left).
2) Attach the Quick Stand on the right rear swingarm spool. It will be long
enough that it naturally rests on the ground at an angle, with the base of
the Quick Stand positioned either fore or aft of the swingarm spool.
Position it so that the base is AFT of the swingarm spool. I'll explain why
in a little bit.**
3) Rather than grab the footpegs as illustrated on the website, instead take
hold of the handlebars while standing on the right side of the bike. I
figure the handlebars are the best place for your hands to be to control the
bike, almost like someone designed them that way.  Anyway, with a firm
grip, slowly and steadily ease the weight of the bike forward and to the
left, using the front contact patch and side stand as pivot points.
4) The rear tire will begin lifting off the ground. As it does, the weight
of the Quick Stand will cause it to rotate underneath the swingarm spool.
Once you've lifted the rear up enough, the Quick Stand will be in place all
on its own, without you having to nudge it with your foot while balancing a
motorcycle on its nose and sidestand. You'll know it's in place because as
you set the bike back down you'll notice the height and angle difference of
how the bike sits. You don't need much clearance between tire and ground.
Just enough to free up the rear to spin.
5) To get it off the stand, I just position a foot next to the base of the
Quick Stand and apply rearward pressure on it with the edge of my foot while
simultaneously applying a little sideways pressure to the frame of the bike.
For this part I often grab hold of the passenger footpegs or subframe
because I'm too far from the bars.
** The reason I place the base of the Quick Stand aft of the swingarm spool
is that I know that when the stand is in use and the tire's elevated, the
stand will be applying and upward force to the swingarm spool, and unless I
get the stand perfectly vertical, that force will be at an angle. I want the
horizontal component of that force to be pointing toward the nose of the
bike, pushing it towards it's other two points of contact with the ground,
not away from them. This is how the bike feels most stable in my experience.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:58 am
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"Bob Nixon" <bigrex2005.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 24, 5:28 am, "D" <d....TakeThisOut@d.DDD> wrote:
>> "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> news:1193205791.198613.99360@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
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>> > On Oct 23, 10:47 pm, Vaughn <vbra....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Oct 23, 11:04 pm, B....TakeThisOut@Mountain.net wrote:
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>> >> > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:22:20 -0700, Bob Nixon <bigrex2....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >On Oct 23, 5:19 pm, "D" <d....TakeThisOut@d.DDD> wrote:
>> >> > >> "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> > >>news:1193177542.663543.173220@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
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>> >> > >> >I did a web search beforehand so I did at least some research.
>> >> > >> >Does
>> >> > >> > anyone know if any mfg makes an after market center stand for
>> >> > >> > the
>> >> > >> > SV-650 Gen II?
>>
>> >> > >> > Also, i bought a tall sport type fly screen for mine. I was
>> >> > >> > thinking
>> >> > >> > of also adding the Givi 3 piece hard bags later on.
>>
>> >> > >> > Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>> >> > >> > Bob Nixon.
>>
>> >> > >> Here's
>> >> > >> one:http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/175/202/
>>
>> >> > >> I also found this that would help you lower your bike's rear
>> >> > >> while
>> >> > >> allowing
>> >> > >> you to set the appropriate sag independently, vs using preload to
>> >> > >> lower your
>> >> > >> bike.http://preview.tinyurl.com/26at3v
>> >> > >> orhttp://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=58243...
>>
>> >> > >Thanks for the links, including the dobbone owering links:)
>>
>> >> > >Bob Nixon.
>>
>> >> > Good luck getting the bike up onto the center stand. Maybe/will be
>> >> > VERY
>> >> > difficult with the bike lowered.
>> >> > Beto
>>
>> >> I would also recommend against the combination of a center stand and
>> >> lowering links.
>>
>> >> You'll loose cornering clearance - and hit really hard parts rather
>> >> than pegs.
>>
>> >> I had an SW Motech centerstand on my (not-lowered) DL1000, and with a
>> >> passenger and bags the centerstand would touch down in some corners.
>> >> And if it dug in, the back wheel would hop. I decided that was too
>> >> risky, and took the center stand off (rather than changing my riding
>> >> style under loads..., hmmm). Anyway, swing arm spools and a pit bull
>> >> really are a better option. After switching to that method on the DL,
>> >> I would occassionally stop by cycle shops while on tour and ask to
>> >> borrow their stand, while bringing my a piece of cardboard, a can of
>> >> WD-40, and then maybe buying a small can of chain lube fromt them.
>> >> The chain would only need that level of attention every few thousand
>> >> miles, but I never got turned down at a shop. Spraying it with lube
>> >> with the old walk it along method worked fine most of the time. New
>> >> chains are tough.- Hide quoted text -
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>> >> - Show quoted text -
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>> > Fortuneately the center stand will only be used like pitbull stands or
>> > to clean / lube / tighten the chain and other garage related stuff. I
>> > did that with my old 78 GS-1000. I'd slip in the retaining bolts on
>> > without any nuts on them. As far as the dogbone goes, that will screw
>> > up ground clearance as well so a 1" max lowering in the rear is all
>> > she's gonna see or need. I guess I have this thing about sport
>> > tourers. Who knows, maybe I'll get strong emough again to do 600 mille
>> > sindle day rides:)
>>
>> > Bob Nixon, 06 SV-650 "RED", Chandler AZ.
>>
>> I thought you wanted the center stand to turn the bike around like you
>> were
>> saying when you first got it. Beto's comment has me thinking you could
>> also
>> run into problems with the bike standing too vertical on the side stand
>> if
>> the bike is lowered too much, although I don't think it would be as bad
>> on
>> the SV as say a Monster. As you say though, you've already got it
>> lowered
>> as far as you need. Have you noticed the bike standing too upright? I
>> saw
>> a guy park his cruiser's front wheel on a parking curb once, like his
>> sidestand was too long. I guess he must have lowered it a lot. Anyway,
>> that dogbone has a 1" setting so I thought it'd be good for ya. I
>> imagine
>> it's really intended for the extended swingarm, 240mm rear, chromed
>> everything crowd.- Hide quoted text -
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> The turnaround thing would be a plus but not really nessaary as the
> bike is light enough to turn around and sit in my slanted drive way
> until I'm ready to roll. On the no slant on the side stand thing, it's
> not that straigh up on & down. They only lowered the triple clamps 1"
> and tightened spring preload in the rear a tad. The only dragging I've
> really had in the twisties is my old injured left foot that I've
> always had to bend forward. See OLD track boot picture & crooked leg
> leg below to understand what I'm trying to say. Also, I can still
> remove the foot peg feelers if drag stuff become a problem.
>
> http://bigrex.net/pictures/Boots/Team7.jpg
Dang, looks like you could use some adjustable rearsets, that is if your
kness/legs are up to it.
> http://bigrex.net/pictures/Boots/Left%20Legb.jpg
> http://bigrex.net/pictures/Boots/Bob_ugly-legs.jpg
>
> Thanks, D. Bob Nixon.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:16 pm
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:03 pm
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On Oct 24, 11:42 am, Jamin <no....DeleteThis@notmymail.com> wrote:
> on 10/24/07 8:16 AM, Vaughn wrote:
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> > Thanks for that - for $40 it beats anything else I've seen. I'm gonna
> > pick one up for road trips.
>
> I've had one for several years now, been on a few road trips with it, and I
> have no complaints. It's solidly built and is easier to use than I initially
> thought it would be. Here's my procedure for use, which differs slightly
> from what's shown online.
>
> 0) Make sure your front brake is solidly held, and that your front tire
> won't slip forward. A clean, paved surface is best.
>
> 1) To put the bike up on the Quick Stand, turn the front wheel all the way
> left, with the bike leaning on the side stand (to the left).
>
> 2) Attach the Quick Stand on the right rear swingarm spool. It will be long
> enough that it naturally rests on the ground at an angle, with the base of
> the Quick Stand positioned either fore or aft of the swingarm spool.
> Position it so that the base is AFT of the swingarm spool. I'll explain why
> in a little bit.**
>
> 3) Rather than grab the footpegs as illustrated on the website, instead take
> hold of the handlebars while standing on the right side of the bike. I
> figure the handlebars are the best place for your hands to be to control the
> bike, almost like someone designed them that way. Anyway, with a firm
> grip, slowly and steadily ease the weight of the bike forward and to the
> left, using the front contact patch and side stand as pivot points.
>
> 4) The rear tire will begin lifting off the ground. As it does, the weight
> of the Quick Stand will cause it to rotate underneath the swingarm spool.
> Once you've lifted the rear up enough, the Quick Stand will be in place all
> on its own, without you having to nudge it with your foot while balancing a
> motorcycle on its nose and sidestand. You'll know it's in place because as
> you set the bike back down you'll notice the height and angle difference of
> how the bike sits. You don't need much clearance between tire and ground.
> Just enough to free up the rear to spin.
>
> 5) To get it off the stand, I just position a foot next to the base of the
> Quick Stand and apply rearward pressure on it with the edge of my foot while
> simultaneously applying a little sideways pressure to the frame of the bike.
> For this part I often grab hold of the passenger footpegs or subframe
> because I'm too far from the bars.
>
> ** The reason I place the base of the Quick Stand aft of the swingarm spool
> is that I know that when the stand is in use and the tire's elevated, the
> stand will be applying and upward force to the swingarm spool, and unless I
> get the stand perfectly vertical, that force will be at an angle. I want the
> horizontal component of that force to be pointing toward the nose of the
> bike, pushing it towards it's other two points of contact with the ground,
> not away from them. This is how the bike feels most stable in my experience.
>
> --
> Jamin
Nice tips, thanks.
I would be a little worried about the sidestand folding, but with the
front brake on and the handlebars locked, sounds like that isn't a
problem.
This definitely beats lugging around a low hanging and heavy
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:03 pm
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On 10/24/07 1:52 PM, "Vaughn" wrote:
> Nice tips, thanks.
>
> I would be a little worried about the sidestand folding, but with the
> front brake on and the handlebars locked, sounds like that isn't a
> problem.
>
It hasn't been a problem for me. Just make sure all three contact points
(front tire, sidestand, Quick Stand) are on solid ground so you don't have
slippage. I think the first time I used the thing I had a buddy standing on
the opposite side with hands on the bars in case the bike started getting
away from me, but it ended up being easier to use than I thought it would
be.
> This definitely beats lugging around a low hanging and heavy
> centerstand on the bottom of a sport or sport-touring motorcycle.
>
Yup. Once you use the gizmo a couple times it's super easy. Mine pretty much
lives in my tank bag all the time.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:02 am
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On Oct 24, 8:16 pm, "Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33665@uwe>
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> Vaughn wrote:
> >Thanks for that - for $40 it beats anything else I've seen. I'm gonna
> >pick one up for road trips.
>
> I'll tell you what beats it. I had a 12-inch piece of 1/2-inch square section
> steel tubing in my garage, so I drilled two 1/4-inch holes in it at one end.
>
> I went down to the hardware store and bought two 1/4 X 3 inch bolts and nuts,
> and a 7/16 X 2 inch bolt, a 7/16 washer and a 7/16 nut.
>
> I stick the large nut, bolt and washer into the bottom of the steel tube and
> bolt the top of it securely to my Yamaha's swingarm with the 1/4 inch bolts
> using existing holes in the aluminum chain adjuster block.
>
> Then I use a wrench to turn the nut and that jacks the motorcycle up and
> there's no danger that my home-brewed stand will slip off a round spool like
> that mickey mouse "Quick Stand" will.
>
> The 12 inch long steel tube fits in my tank bag.
>
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:16 am
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Vaughn wrote:
>Thanks for that - for $40 it beats anything else I've seen. I'm gonna
>pick one up for road trips.
I'll tell you what beats it. I had a 12-inch piece of 1/2-inch square section
steel tubing in my garage, so I drilled two 1/4-inch holes in it at one end.
I went down to the hardware store and bought two 1/4 X 3 inch bolts and nuts,
and a 7/16 X 2 inch bolt, a 7/16 washer and a 7/16 nut.
I stick the large nut, bolt and washer into the bottom of the steel tube and
bolt the top of it securely to my Yamaha's swingarm with the 1/4 inch bolts
using existing holes in the aluminum chain adjuster block.
Then I use a wrench to turn the nut and that jacks the motorcycle up and
there's no danger that my home-brewed stand will slip off a round spool like
that mickey mouse "Quick Stand" will.
The 12 inch long steel tube fits in my tank bag.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:19 pm
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On Oct 24, 10:33 am, Bob Nixon <bigrex2....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 3:38 am, saddlebag <saddle....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Oct 24, 2:03 am, Bob Nixon <bigrex2....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 23, 10:47 pm, Vaughn <vbra....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Oct 23, 11:04 pm, B....RemoveThis@Mountain.net wrote:
>
> > > > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:22:20 -0700, Bob Nixon <bigrex2....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > >On Oct 23, 5:19 pm, "D" <d....RemoveThis@d.DDD> wrote:
> > > > > >> "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > >>news:1193177542.663543.173220@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > >> >I did a web search beforehand so I did at least some research. Does
> > > > > >> > anyone know if any mfg makes an after market center stand for the
> > > > > >> > SV-650 Gen II?
>
> > > > > >> > Also, i bought a tall sport type fly screen for mine. I was thinking
> > > > > >> > of also adding the Givi 3 piece hard bags later on.
>
> > > > > >> > Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> > > > > >> > Bob Nixon.
>
> > > > > >> Here's one:http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/175/202/
>
> > > > > >> I also found this that would help you lower your bike's rear while allowing
> > > > > >> you to set the appropriate sag independently, vs using preload to lower your
> > > > > >> bike.http://preview.tinyurl.com/26at3v
> > > > > >> orhttp://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=58243...
>
> > > > > >Thanks for the links, including the dobbone owering links:)
>
> > > > > >Bob Nixon.
>
> > > > > Good luck getting the bike up onto the center stand. Maybe/will be VERY
> > > > > difficult with the bike lowered.
> > > > > Beto
>
> > > > I would also recommend against the combination of a center stand and
> > > > lowering links.
>
> > > > You'll loose cornering clearance - and hit really hard parts rather
> > > > than pegs.
>
> > > > I had an SW Motech centerstand on my (not-lowered) DL1000, and with a
> > > > passenger and bags the centerstand would touch down in some corners.
> > > > And if it dug in, the back wheel would hop. I decided that was too
> > > > risky, and took the center stand off (rather than changing my riding
> > > > style under loads..., hmmm). Anyway, swing arm spools and a pit bull
> > > > really are a better option. After switching to that method on the DL,
> > > > I would occassionally stop by cycle shops while on tour and ask to
> > > > borrow their stand, while bringing my a piece of cardboard, a can of
> > > > WD-40, and then maybe buying a small can of chain lube fromt them.
> > > > The chain would only need that level of attention every few thousand
> > > > miles, but I never got turned down at a shop. Spraying it with lube
> > > > with the old walk it along method worked fine most of the time. New
> > > > chains are tough.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Fortuneately the center stand will only be used like pitbull stands or
> > > to clean / lube / tighten the chain and other garage related stuff.
>
> > If that's all you want it for I can send you a Ducati center stand
> > that I still have laying out in the shed. The mounting points look
> > wider than the pic D posted, but you ought to be able to find a
> > sufficiently long mounting bolt (I stuck the bolt back in the bike to
> > prevent the hole from getting clogged up so I can't send you that).
>
> > If you think there is clearance and you're interested in it, ping me
> > offline.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Saddle, thanks for offering but do you think the front to rear holes
> will line up? As you said, with long bolts the side to side wouldn't
> matter but the front to rear dimensions would have to be the same.
>
Or pull out the drill. But after looking at it, the holes are stacked
on top of each other instead of back to front on mine.
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On Oct 25, 11:17 am, "Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33665@uwe>
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> saddlebag wrote:
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> Maybe my Mescin genes will kick in next time
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> >and I'll start picking something...
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> Troles son personas que realizan acciones disruptivas con el unico fin de
> llamar la atencion y molestar. Nunca alimente a los troles.
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Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
> saddlebag wrote:
> Maybe my Mescin genes will kick in next time
>> and I'll start picking something...
>
> Troles son personas que realizan acciones disruptivas con el unico fin de
> llamar la atencion y molestar. Nunca alimente a los troles.
>
Si, el es un cabron grande. Es una lastima, la computadora mia no tiene
acentos.
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