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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:12 pm
Post subject: Advice on changing oil lines
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Please avail yourself of a libation,and another for some
guidance,if you will. I washed the '97 FLSTF the other day and while
inspecting the right side noticed the oil lines are cracked and in
need of replacing.They are attached by those ring type crimp clamps
that the factory uses,and having messed with trying to remove those
types of clamps in areas that have more room than the looks of my oil
lines,and having to wrestle such clamps into submission using wire
nippers combined with a twisting movement,and thinking I do not want
to cause any more damage than absolutely necessary,I am frankly
wondering if there is a preferred method to remove those dastardly
clampages? Any special clamp removal tools required? I will surely
reattach the new oil lines with more familiar and workable screw type
hose clamps,as it seems that kind would be far easier to deal with
inna future or emergency situation. Also, can one of you mechanically
adept tell me what size or type of tubing to replace the oil lines
with,with the idea of longevity in mind,but not wanting to necessarily
redo with braided lines,unless of course that is truly the way to
go.Do the lines come pre formed from the dealer as a kit,or can they
be easily made up by my humble self? Thanks again for any and all
sage advise,once again.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:48 pm
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Tim wrote:
> Please avail yourself of a libation,and another for some
> guidance,if you will. I washed the '97 FLSTF the other day and while
> inspecting the right side noticed the oil lines are cracked and in
> need of replacing.They are attached by those ring type crimp clamps
> that the factory uses,and having messed with trying to remove those
> types of clamps in areas that have more room than the looks of my oil
> lines,and having to wrestle such clamps into submission using wire
> nippers combined with a twisting movement,and thinking I do not want
> to cause any more damage than absolutely necessary,I am frankly
> wondering if there is a preferred method to remove those dastardly
> clampages? Any special clamp removal tools required? I will surely
> reattach the new oil lines with more familiar and workable screw type
> hose clamps,as it seems that kind would be far easier to deal with
> inna future or emergency situation. Also, can one of you mechanically
> adept tell me what size or type of tubing to replace the oil lines
> with,with the idea of longevity in mind,but not wanting to necessarily
> redo with braided lines,unless of course that is truly the way to
> go.Do the lines come pre formed from the dealer as a kit,or can they
> be easily made up by my humble self? Thanks again for any and all
> sage advise,once again.
>
> Tim
>
Can't help you with oil line advise I am afraid however I must
compliment you on two things.
(1) Firstly the way in which you have turned the older members (such as
myself) blue in the face due to the very few spaces in which breath can
be taken in your email.
(2) secondly for your fine grasp of the English language and your even
finer grasp of the thesaurus in your hand.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:25 pm
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"Tim" <Timbre656 RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> wondering if there is a preferred method to remove those dastardly
> clampages?
I intend to cut 'em at the crimp w/dikes (diagonal cutters) when needed >> Stay informed about: Advice on changing oil lines |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:53 pm
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SP wrote:
> "Tim" <Timbre656 RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1174522369.315734.269780@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
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>> wondering if there is a preferred method to remove those dastardly
>> clampages?
>
> I intend to cut 'em at the crimp w/dikes (diagonal cutters) when needed
Yep. What he said.
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StT
those things are best when in the trash... >> Stay informed about: Advice on changing oil lines |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:53 pm
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StT wrote:
> SP wrote:
>> "Tim" <Timbre656.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:1174522369.315734.269780@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
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>>> wondering if there is a preferred method to remove those dastardly
>>> clampages?
>>
>> I intend to cut 'em at the crimp w/dikes (diagonal cutters) when
>> needed
>
> Yep. What he said.
And if it's too tight to get the dykes in , try a dremel with a cutoff
wheel . **caution** the wheel can and will catch sometimes . I like the
standard wheels because they'lll usually break when they grab instead of
jumping out of your cut and trashing that brand new whatever next to the
clamp you meant to cut .
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Snag aka OSG #1
'90 Ultra , "??"
BS132 SENS NEWT
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:22 am
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On Mar 21, 6:30 pm, Stan Gifford <stan.gifford.DeleteThis@big_yellow.com> wrote:
> Tim wrote:
> > Please avail yourself of a libation,and another for some
> > guidance,if you will. I washed the '97 FLSTF the other day and while
> > inspecting the right side noticed the oil lines are cracked and in
> > need of replacing.They are attached by those ring type crimp clamps
> > that the factory uses,and having messed with trying to remove those
> > types of clamps in areas that have more room than the looks of my oil
> > lines,and having to wrestle such clamps into submission using wire
> > nippers combined with a twisting movement,and thinking I do not want
> > to cause any more damage than absolutely necessary,I am frankly
> > wondering if there is a preferred method to remove those dastardly
> > clampages? Any special clamp removal tools required? I will surely
> > reattach the new oil lines with more familiar and workable screw type
> > hose clamps,as it seems that kind would be far easier to deal with
> > inna future or emergency situation. Also, can one of you mechanically
> > adept tell me what size or type of tubing to replace the oil lines
> > with,with the idea of longevity in mind,but not wanting to necessarily
> > redo with braided lines,unless of course that is truly the way to
> > go.Do the lines come pre formed from the dealer as a kit,or can they
> > be easily made up by my humble self? Thanks again for any and all
> > sage advise,once again.
>
> > Tim
>
> Can't help you with oil line advise I am afraid however I must
> compliment you on two things.
>
> (1) Firstly the way in which you have turned the older members (such as
> myself) blue in the face due to the very few spaces in which breath can
> be taken in your email.
>
> (2) secondly for your fine grasp of the English language and your even
> finer grasp of the thesaurus in your hand.
>
>
>
> Stan- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
Thank you for the kind review,Stan,and yes ,imagine my surprise when
I found "dastardly clampages"in my pocket Roget's.I couldn't help but
use it!
Tim >> Stay informed about: Advice on changing oil lines |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:37 am
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On Mar 21, 8:50 pm, "Snag" <snag... RemoveThis @bellsouth.net> wrote:
> StT wrote:
> > SP wrote:
> >> "Tim" <Timbre... RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>news:1174522369.315734.269780@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> wondering if there is a preferred method to remove those dastardly
> >>> clampages?
>
> >> I intend to cut 'em at the crimp w/dikes (diagonal cutters) when
> >> needed
>
> > Yep. What he said.
>
> And if it's too tight to get the dykes in , try a dremel with a cutoff
> wheel . **caution** the wheel can and will catch sometimes . I like the
> standard wheels because they'lll usually break when they grab instead of
> jumping out of your cut and trashing that brand new whatever next to the
> clamp you meant to cut .
>
> --
>
> Snag aka OSG #1
> '90 Ultra , "??"
> BS132 SENS NEWT
> none to one to reply
Thanks Snag.I have a Dremel out in the toolbox,and that may be just
the ticket for cutting those clamps.Seems like there must be a
specific tool for attaching those things,and another for removing
them.Maybe a call to Harbor Freight would help,that is if I knew the
true name of those clamps."Hello,do you have the tool I need to remove
those pinchy clamps found on Harley oil lines?" Silence. Click.
By the way,congrats on the new bike.How's the hand?
Tim >> Stay informed about: Advice on changing oil lines |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:51 am
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"Tim" <Timbre656 RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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<snip>
> wondering if there is a preferred method to remove those dastardly
> clampages? Any special clamp removal tools required?
dikes, tin snips, or anything sharp that is designed to cut metal.
> reattach the new oil lines with more familiar and workable screw type
> hose clamps,as it seems that kind would be far easier to deal with
> inna future or emergency situation.
I like the afore mentioned factory type clamps myself but whatever floats
your boat.
> adept tell me what size or type of tubing to replace the oil lines
> with,with the idea of longevity in mind,but not wanting to necessarily
> redo with braided lines,unless of course that is truly the way to
> go.
should be standard 3/8 i.d. rubber hose. may not be, but the size should be
printed somewhere on the hose. if not just take a section to the auto parts
store and have them match it up.
>Do the lines come pre formed from the dealer as a kit,or can they
> be easily made up by my humble self?
it is stinking rubber!!! it bends all on its own an cuts to size with
anything sharp!!!
michael
p.s. break your paragraphs occasionally and use short simple words that we
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:15 am
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nunya wrote:
> "Tim" <Timbre656 RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1174522369.315734.269780@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> <snip>
>> wondering if there is a preferred method to remove those dastardly
>> clampages? Any special clamp removal tools required?
>
> dikes, tin snips, or anything sharp that is designed to cut metal.
>
>> reattach the new oil lines with more familiar and workable screw type
>> hose clamps,as it seems that kind would be far easier to deal with
>> inna future or emergency situation.
>
> I like the afore mentioned factory type clamps myself but whatever floats
> your boat.
I haven't found a source for those clamps (although I haven't asked at
the dealer), they are part no 10249 according to my parts book. I
usually replace them with regular hose clamps.
--
Fins BS#221 FD2 KOTC#8 EKIII rides with me
'05 FLHTCUI "Chief"
'02 FLSTCI
'38 UL "Ninong"
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:50 am
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Tim wrote:
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> Thanks Snag.I have a Dremel out in the toolbox,and that may be just
> the ticket for cutting those clamps.Seems like there must be a
> specific tool for attaching those things,and another for removing
> them.Maybe a call to Harbor Freight would help,that is if I knew the
> true name of those clamps."Hello,do you have the tool I need to remove
> those pinchy clamps found on Harley oil lines?" Silence. Click.
> By the way,congrats on the new bike.How's the hand?
>
> Tim
>
The part number for the hose clamp pliers is 97087-65B, you can see a
drawing of the clamp and mention of the tool here:
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/H.H._M_bulletins/M1117_dyna_fuel_hose.pdf
--
Fins BS#221 FD2 KOTC#8 EKIII rides with me
'05 FLHTCUI "Chief"
'02 FLSTCI
'38 UL "Ninong"
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:48 am
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Tim wrote:
<snipdowntothis>
> Thanks Snag.I have a Dremel out in the toolbox,and that may be just
> the ticket for cutting those clamps.
And if you have long hair, keep it out of the way while you're doing
this. I quote a fine RMH patron:
"Trust me, there is NO way to nonchalantly conceal the fact that you
have a power tool in your head, no matter what you do." -- El Gato
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Donna A.
Wench #17/Bitch #17/BS #26/AH#107/SLOB #9
'95 FLHTCUI Fuel Injected 30th Anniversary Electraglide "Fueley"
'66 H-D Bobcat "Baby Blue"--Harley Hummer Club Member #1066
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:18 pm
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Tim wrote:
> On Mar 21, 8:50 pm, "Snag" <snag....DeleteThis@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> StT wrote:
>>> SP wrote:
>>>> "Tim" <Timbre....DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:1174522369.315734.269780@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>> wondering if there is a preferred method to remove those dastardly
>>>>> clampages?
>>
>>>> I intend to cut 'em at the crimp w/dikes (diagonal cutters) when
>>>> needed
>>
>>> Yep. What he said.
>>
>> And if it's too tight to get the dykes in , try a dremel with a
>> cutoff wheel . **caution** the wheel can and will catch sometimes .
>> I like the standard wheels because they'lll usually break when they
>> grab instead of jumping out of your cut and trashing that brand new
>> whatever next to the clamp you meant to cut .
>>
>> --
>>
>> Snag aka OSG #1
>> '90 Ultra , "??"
>> BS132 SENS NEWT
>> none to one to reply
>
> Thanks Snag.I have a Dremel out in the toolbox,and that may be just
> the ticket for cutting those clamps.Seems like there must be a
> specific tool for attaching those things,and another for removing
> them.Maybe a call to Harbor Freight would help,that is if I knew the
> true name of those clamps."Hello,do you have the tool I need to remove
> those pinchy clamps found on Harley oil lines?" Silence. Click.
> By the way,congrats on the new bike.How's the hand?
>
> Tim
Wrist still hurts , apparently it was sprained too . I suspect the "broken
bone" in my hand is pretty much healed - though it was never set , and
there's a hump on the back of my hand . Doctor hasn't returned multiple
calls . I'm about ready to go visit him at his office and make a big scene
....
It hurts (some ...) to ride , but this bike is great ! Short rides , then
relax until it stops hurtin' ...
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Snag aka OSG #1
'90 Ultra , "??"
BS132 SENS NEWT
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:19 pm
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Donna A. wrote:
> Tim wrote:
> <snipdowntothis>
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>> Thanks Snag.I have a Dremel out in the toolbox,and that may be
>> just the ticket for cutting those clamps.
>
> And if you have long hair, keep it out of the way while you're doing
> this. I quote a fine RMH patron:
>
> "Trust me, there is NO way to nonchalantly conceal the fact that you
> have a power tool in your head, no matter what you do." -- El Gato
I've seen this quote before , and always wondered . Inquiring minds now know
!
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'90 Ultra , "??"
BS132 SENS NEWT
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:34 pm
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DM <fins.TakeThisOut@bs221.nospam.com> wrote in
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> Tim wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Snag.I have a Dremel out in the toolbox,and that may be just
>> the ticket for cutting those clamps.Seems like there must be a
>> specific tool for attaching those things,and another for removing
>> them.Maybe a call to Harbor Freight would help,that is if I knew the
>> true name of those clamps."Hello,do you have the tool I need to remove
>> those pinchy clamps found on Harley oil lines?" Silence. Click.
>> By the way,congrats on the new bike.How's the hand?
>>
>> Tim
>>
> The part number for the hose clamp pliers is 97087-65B, you can see a
> drawing of the clamp and mention of the tool here:
> http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/H.H._M_bulletins/M1117
_dyna_fuel_hos
> e.pdf
>
Those pliers are designed for installing the clamp, not removing. A die
grinder (or dremel) is your best bet for non-wrestling type removal. >> Stay informed about: Advice on changing oil lines |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:23 am
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:34:23 -0500, Hermit <hllblly_bikr DeleteThis @coldmail.com>
wrote:
>DM <fins DeleteThis @bs221.nospam.com> wrote in
>news:zomdnZWtUsRBXJ_bnZ2dnUVZ_sGqnZ2d@giganews.com:
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>> Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Snag.I have a Dremel out in the toolbox,and that may be just
>>> the ticket for cutting those clamps.Seems like there must be a
>>> specific tool for attaching those things,and another for removing
>>> them.Maybe a call to Harbor Freight would help,that is if I knew the
>>> true name of those clamps."Hello,do you have the tool I need to remove
>>> those pinchy clamps found on Harley oil lines?" Silence. Click.
>>> By the way,congrats on the new bike.How's the hand?
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>> The part number for the hose clamp pliers is 97087-65B, you can see a
>> drawing of the clamp and mention of the tool here:
>> http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/H.H._M_bulletins/M1117
>_dyna_fuel_hos
>> e.pdf
>>
>
>Those pliers are designed for installing the clamp, not removing. A die
>grinder (or dremel) is your best bet for non-wrestling type removal.
Although the right crimpers work the best, side cutters or nail
nippers used gently will also install them.
The easy way to remove them is to grab the overlapping end (with the
little teeth poking through) with a pair of side cutters and roll it
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