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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:59 am
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JOJO <dfkatz123.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
> slowly. I am not trying to get killed on a bike. I think that riding
> will be cheaper than a shrink and from everyone I have spoken to there
> is nothing quite like it.
Riding is almost certainly cheaper than a shrink, but it's not cheap.

>
> I am also concerned about depreciation and having to take a big lose
> if I decide to sell. Not sure I want to invest 17K on a first bike. I
You might, but it's not a very rational idea.

> have seen the Dyna's for around 7K. What is high mileage for a
On most Japanese motorcycles the first major service is around
16000 miles, which all three of mine passed without adjustment.
>
> motorcycle? My main concern is being able to be comfortable on the
> bike enough to enjoy the ride, but not getting anything that I will
> not be able to handle while I am learning.......

It's helpful to distinguish seating comfort from control comfort.
On my bikes, the two are fairly unconnected. The best control
comfort is on my tlr200, which offers a perfectly miserable seat.
The best seating comfort is found on my vfr800, which requires a
very careful control input, and it's considered a slug by many.

Control comfort was most important to me in the beginning, once
I had that down pat the seat started to matter. It took a year
and maybe 8k miles in the Oakland CA hills to get there.

>
> Thoughts?

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:35 am
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On Jun 24, 2:42?am, Croosh <ycro....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 7:04 am, JOJO <dfkatz....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I am 6'0 and about 230 pounds. I am starting to very seriously
> > consider my first bike. I have gotten as far as enrolling in a saftey
> > course. Any advice from the group would be greatly appreciated.
>
> JOJO,
> I am about your size (1" shorter), and I started with 750cc Honda
> Shadow. This particula model was "inspired" by HD Dyna Glide Super...
> (Read: Honda copied Dyna Glide and called it Shadow, to the point that
> the chocke is in the same place etc...)
> At first the bike was a pain to handle, expecially since very little
> twist of throttle on the parking lot tried to yank the thing from
> under me. After 2-3 weeks I passed OR DMV test on it with no problems
> though...
> Besides the aestetical reasons, I think cruiser are more comfy. I use
> mine for every day commute on snaky country roads, and I like the way
> it handles. The thing has a lot of torgue at the low end, but at
> superslab speeds I wish I had 6th gear.
>
> Reagards
> Yuriy

Yuriy,

Great input here. I appreciate the feed back. There is a hugh debate
raging between the Harley Sportster community and the Honda community.
I like the Dyna's but was told that the Glide might be a bit much for
a fist bike considering the rake. I have been enjoying the hunt and
the research. Thanks again for the input.

DK

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:46 pm
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"JOJO" <dfkatz123.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
>> I am 6'0 and about 230 pounds. I am starting to very seriously
consider my first bike. I have gotten as far as enrolling in a saftey
course. Any advice from the group would be greatly appreciated. <<

My first advice seems to have already been made.... MSF course. For other
very useful info, see Timberwoof's excellent MC information website. It's
chock full of good info for beginners. Try the "Choosing" link:

http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml


>> I have heard that 250's make excellent starter bikes, but it feels very
>> small. <<

At your size, a 250 may indeed be too small.


>> Is a 750 to large to start off with? <<

Absolutely not. I'm a motorcycle "retread", having given it up when I went
off to college. I started back up 8 or 9 years ago with a 750 Nighthawk
after an almost 35 year absence. Back when I first rode, a 750 would have
been considered a very LARGE bike. As a matter of fact, the most common
large bike back then was a 650.


>> I am also concerned about depreciation and having to take a big lose
if I decide to sell. Not sure I want to invest 17K on a first bike.<<

I've owned, 13 bikes, 7 of them in the last 8 years. The last (and only)
bike I bought brand new was in 1964 (a Honda 305 Superhawk). I buy used
bikes for the very reason you mention. You'll find that as a general rule,
motorcycle owners take better care of their bikes than they do of their cars
and put way fewer miles on them. As a result, you can find mechanically
excellent used bikes fairly easy. When you sell them you don't loose near
as much as you would if you had bought them new. If you bid your time and
wait for the right deal to come along, you can even get away with selling a
bike at no loss. It just takes getting a feel for the market. You can do
this by tracking specific models in places like cycletrader.com.

Here are my current bikes, both of which I bought used:

http://www.hal-pc.org/~mmcham/mtrcycle.html


>> my thought is to ease into this very, very slowly. <<

I completely agree. It's exactly what I did. Even though I had ridden as a
teenager, it took a while to get my "motorcycle legs" back. Just take it one
step at a time. Before you know it, you'll be taking trips across the US.
Here's how much fun it can be:

http://www.hal-pc.org/~mmcham/wes02.html

Good luck.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:55 pm
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JOJO wrote:

> I am also concerned about depreciation and having to take a big lose
> if I decide to sell. Not sure I want to invest 17K on a first bike.

From a practical perspective, that would be a huge mistake. You could
probably buy a running Nitehawk 750 (or somesuch) for what it would cost
to repair the damage from dropping that 17K bike once.

If you're worried about depreciation, get a nice running used bike. Buy
it 5 years old and sell it at 7, and you're practically riding for free.

If you're buying into this as an image thing and have been sold on the
Harley image, then somebody is going to make a lot of money off you.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:19 pm
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"JOJO" <dfkatz123.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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>I am 6'0 and about 230 pounds. I am starting to very seriously
> consider my first bike. I have gotten as far as enrolling in a saftey
> course. Any advice from the group would be greatly appreciated.

What would you like advice about?

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:19 pm
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"Sean" <no.spam.TakeThisOut@no.spam> wrote in message
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> JOJO wrote:
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>> I am 6'0 and about 230 pounds. I am starting to very seriously
>> consider my first bike. I have gotten as far as enrolling in a saftey
>> course. Any advice from the group would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Harley Davidson Electra Glide

He didn't say how old he was.

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