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Peter Johnston

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:40 pm
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Hi:

I have a '97 Speed Triple. The frame was replaced by the original owner
under warranty. He had it polished to a sparkling aluminum. Looks sharp!

It has 14,000 km on it and has developed a serious problem. Last time I
rode it, I barely made it home. Two jugs quit working and when I tried to
start it again, it sounded like the valves weren't closing - acted like the
timing chain/belt had skipped a cog or two. Hmmm. Sounds bad (i.e.
expensive).

I've laid it down three times - all at low speeds - under 20 km/h. Never
really thrashed her - only hit the rev limiter four or five times.

Any thoughts or similar experiences out there?

Peter

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:40 pm
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:28:24 GMT, "Peter Johnston"
<peter.johnston.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote:

 > only hit the rev limiter four or five times.
 >
 >Any thoughts

How can you have only hit the limiter four or five times? You're just
not trying hard enough.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:40 pm
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Lady Nina says...
 > On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:28:24 GMT, "Peter Johnston"
 > <peter.johnston.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote:
 >
  > > only hit the rev limiter four or five times.
  > >
  > >Any thoughts
 >
 > How can you have only hit the limiter four or five times? You're just
 > not trying hard enough.

Merkin, nuff said.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:40 pm
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Lozzo emerged from their own little world to say

 > Lady Nina says...
  >> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:28:24 GMT, "Peter Johnston"
  >> <peter.johnston.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote:
  >>
   >> > only hit the rev limiter four or five times.
   >> >
   >> >Any thoughts
  >>
  >> How can you have only hit the limiter four or five times? You're just
  >> not trying hard enough.
 >
 > Merkin, nuff said.
 >

That's another pissed off canuck

Good show

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:40 pm
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wessie says...
 > Lozzo emerged from their own little world to say
 >
  > > Lady Nina says...
   > >> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:28:24 GMT, "Peter Johnston"
   > >> <peter.johnston RemoveThis @shaw.ca> wrote:
   > >>
   > >> > only hit the rev limiter four or five times.
   > >> >
   > >> >Any thoughts
   > >>
   > >> How can you have only hit the limiter four or five times? You're just
   > >> not trying hard enough.
  > >
  > > Merkin, nuff said.
  > >
 >
 > That's another pissed off canuck
 >
 > Good show

*Result*

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Grimly Curmudgeon2

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:12 pm
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It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Peter Johnston"
<peter.johnston RemoveThis @shaw.ca> saying something like:

 > Two jugs quit working

Carry more booze.

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The Older Gentlema2

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:40 am
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Peter Johnston <peter.johnston.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote:

 > Hi:
 >
 > I have a '97 Speed Triple. The frame was replaced by the original owner
 > under warranty. He had it polished to a sparkling aluminum. Looks sharp!
 >
 > It has 14,000 km on it and has developed a serious problem. Last time I
 > rode it, I barely made it home. Two jugs quit working and when I tried to
 > start it again, it sounded like the valves weren't closing - acted like the
 > timing chain/belt had skipped a cog or two. Hmmm. Sounds bad (i.e.
 > expensive).
 >
 > I've laid it down three times - all at low speeds - under 20 km/h. Never
 > really thrashed her - only hit the rev limiter four or five times.
 >
 > Any thoughts or similar experiences out there?
 >

The camchain on the triples can - and does - skip a few teeth when you
remove the tensioner and replace it unless you take all sorts of
precautions to jam the crank and cams in position, but how this could
happen in a low-speed drop (or three) I dunno.

Open it up and have a look.....


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Preston Kemp2

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:40 am
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Peter Johnston wrote:

 >
 > It has 14,000 km on it and has developed a serious problem. Last
 > time I rode it, I barely made it home. Two jugs quit working and
 > when I tried to start it again, it sounded like the valves weren't
 > closing - acted like the timing chain/belt had skipped a cog or two.
 > Hmmm. Sounds bad (i.e. expensive).
 >
 > I've laid it down three times - all at low speeds - under 20 km/h.
 > Never really thrashed her - only hit the rev limiter four or five
 > times.
 >
 > Any thoughts or similar experiences out there?

Have you checked the airbox for oil? It might have sucked some up the
crank breather when on its side. This could lead to anything from
fouled plugs to bent conrods.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:40 am
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:40 am
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:51:18 +0000, Adrienne M Bonwick
<spam RemoveThis @AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote:

 >On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:36:24 +0000, Lady Nina
 ><spam.trap2 RemoveThis @ntlworld.com> wrote:

  >>How can you have only hit the limiter four or five times? You're just
  >>not trying hard enough.
 >
 >I've only done it once. redline in 2nd is a ton.

Yes, and?

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:40 am
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Ginge wrote:
 > In article <7XoOd.1320529$B07.190706@news.easynews.com>, Catman
says...
 >
  > > I must confess that I went faster (109)on my test ride than I've
been on my
  > > own Triple. I really don't think I have either the bottle, or the
arms
  > > required to redline it 6th. Plus I am distinctly leary about my
skill.
  > > Finally I am *very* dependant on my licence, so breaking the ton is
not
  > > something I do other than *very* rarely.
 >
 > I break the ton most mornings, on my commute. Even in the car.

I rarely do more than maybe 70-80 commuting on the bike. But my commute
is 3 miles of 40 zone and 8 miles of 30 zone.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:08 am
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porl wrote:
 > "Ginge" <me2 RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
 > news:MPG.1c743206c76efa5c9897bc@news.individual.net...
  > > In article <1107960019.332653.155670 RemoveThis @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
  > > darsy says...
   > >>
   > >> I rarely do more than maybe 70-80 commuting on the bike. But my
commute
   > >> is 3 miles of 40 zone and 8 miles of 30 zone.
  > >
  > > Yeah, makes a difference - mine is maybe 85% NSL into Warwick, or
40%
  > > NSL, then around 40 mins of crawl/Radio4 into Nottingham.
 >
 > Slow down there Einsteins. So what you're saying is that you can ride

 > /faster/ in NSL areas?

yes. Unless you're in a traffic jam, traffic on NSL roads is /on
average/ going faster than in a 40 zone. So, it's easier/safer to go
faster on NSL roads than on 40 limit roads.

If I tried to do >100mph down the A10 at rush hour, I'd crash, whereas
I'd happily to >100mph along - say - the M4 during rush hour.

Unless you're talking about roads with no other traffic, in which case
all bets are off.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:12 am
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porl wrote:

 > I'm kind of getting it....so let's take an example: If you were
riding
 > though a 30 mph zone you would generally ride /slower/ than if you
were
 > riding down a dual carriageway? Is that right?

sure. Hint: I'm not talking about the legal aspect at all.

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:17 am
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Champ wrote:
 > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:10:34 -0000, "porl" <porlp DeleteThis @btinternet.com>
 > wrote:
  > >I'm kind of getting it....so let's take an example: If you were
riding
  > >though a 30 mph zone you would generally ride /slower/ than if you
were
  > >riding down a dual carriageway? Is that right?
 >
 > Tell him about your problem with your sidestand again, porl.

am I missing something obvious again?

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:41 am
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Lady Nina wrote:

 > You shut darsy in a box and he's in an indeterminate state?

I'm always in an indeterminate state.

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