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(Msg. 31) Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:01 am
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"Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:54:33 +1000
> CrazyCam <crazycam.TakeThisOut@upturnet.com.au> wrote:
>> OTOH, if you have told the truth, and paid top dollar for the green
>> slip, don't you feel _entitled_ to hit someone?
>
> What is coming out of the parliamentary select committee on green slip
> pricing is that this green slip thing isn't what you think it is...
>
> It isn't an insurance policy where you insure against hitting someone,
> so that the premium you pay is based on the damage you do.
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> The premium you pay is based upon the damage someone *assumes*
> (without recourse to anything as potentially helpful as the actual
> numbers collected over decades) you might sustain.
>
> So motorcycles, which do bugger all in the way of hitting people pay
> heaps whereas cars, which hit and seriously damage peds, cyclists,
> motorcyclists, other cars, trees, small furry animals, and the occasional
> train[1] pay nowhere near the premium they should pay given the damage
> they do.
>
> Zebee
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> [1] I dunno if the train gets that badly damaged from the hit, it's
> the lying down afterwards that seems to cause it difficulties
The only thing I can think of that could possibly explain the anomaly is
that the injuries suffered by pillions are horrific and more numerous then
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:01 am
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In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:44:51 +1000
will_s <willsjunkremove.TakeThisOut@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> The only thing I can think of that could possibly explain the anomaly is
> that the injuries suffered by pillions are horrific and more numerous then
> we know
Ain't so.
THe numbers have been crunched, even if every pillion claim was for
large amounts for many years, the premiums are still too high.
And that's including pillions snotted by cars....
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:01 am
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"Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:44:51 +1000
> will_s <willsjunkremove.DeleteThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> The only thing I can think of that could possibly explain the anomaly is
>> that the injuries suffered by pillions are horrific and more numerous
>> then
>> we know
>
> Ain't so.
>
> THe numbers have been crunched, even if every pillion claim was for
> large amounts for many years, the premiums are still too high.
>
> And that's including pillions snotted by cars....
>
> Zebee
>
I believe you and would love to see the figures. Now why would not these
private companies offer better deals if they have access to the numbers ?
Secret deals between insurance companies ? >> Stay informed about: $80 for Greenslip |
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:01 am
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In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:14:53 +1000
will_s <willsjunkremove RemoveThis @optusnet.com.au> wrote:
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> I believe you and would love to see the figures. Now why would not these
> private companies offer better deals if they have access to the numbers ?
> Secret deals between insurance companies ?
you are an insurance company. The govt says "gouge this lot, go on,
rip 'em off".
What do you say "never, that would be wrong!" or "Sure, and while you
are at it, cap benefits eh?"
The numbers were done in SA 20 years ago, in NSW at least 3 times. I
don't have them off the top of my head, ask mccofnsw RemoveThis @ar.com.au for
them.
(I did see the numbers, it is something like if you assume the
absolute worst possible and add 10% then riders are still paying
around $100/yr too much.)
Zebee >> Stay informed about: $80 for Greenslip |
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:00 am
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"Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:14:53 +1000
> will_s <willsjunkremove.DeleteThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I believe you and would love to see the figures. Now why would not these
>> private companies offer better deals if they have access to the numbers ?
>> Secret deals between insurance companies ?
>
> you are an insurance company. The govt says "gouge this lot, go on,
> rip 'em off".
>
> What do you say "never, that would be wrong!" or "Sure, and while you
> are at it, cap benefits eh?"
>
> The numbers were done in SA 20 years ago, in NSW at least 3 times. I
> don't have them off the top of my head, ask mccofnsw.DeleteThis@ar.com.au for
> them.
>
> (I did see the numbers, it is something like if you assume the
> absolute worst possible and add 10% then riders are still paying
> around $100/yr too much.)
>
> Zebee
Maybee thats the reason they did't worry to much about me paying only $80
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:00 am
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will_s wrote:
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> "CrazyCam" <crazycam RemoveThis @upturnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>> will_s wrote:
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>> <snip>
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>>> Why are people so cynical ?
>>
>> This is aus.moto discussing insurance companies, is it not?
>>
>>> Can they prove anything ? They send me a renewal that had a $80
>>> offer on it and I accepted that offer.
>>
>> Don't you just feel duty bound to go out and knock down some innocent
>> passer-by, just to test out if the insurance company will or won't pay
>> out?
>>
>> regards,
>> CrazyCam
>
> actually I wasnt think of some innocent passerby ..... now where does
> Nev live ?
Hah! Like I need any help injuring myself. I'm still recovering from
the results of a riding misadventure 6 weeks ago whilst in India.
Nev.. >> Stay informed about: $80 for Greenslip |
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:00 am
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"Nev.." <idiot DeleteThis @mindless.com> wrote in message
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> will_s wrote:
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>> "CrazyCam" <crazycam DeleteThis @upturnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:4717e3b8$0$1030$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>> will_s wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Why are people so cynical ?
>>>
>>> This is aus.moto discussing insurance companies, is it not?
>>>
>>>> Can they prove anything ? They send me a renewal that had a $80 offer
>>>> on it and I accepted that offer.
>>>
>>> Don't you just feel duty bound to go out and knock down some innocent
>>> passer-by, just to test out if the insurance company will or won't pay
>>> out?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> CrazyCam
>>
>> actually I wasnt think of some innocent passerby ..... now where does
>> Nev live ?
>
> Hah! Like I need any help injuring myself. I'm still recovering from the
> results of a riding misadventure 6 weeks ago whilst in India.
>
> Nev
Not enough money in the World to get me to India .....
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:02 am
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Zebee Johnstone is of the opinion:
> In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:54:33 +1000
> CrazyCam <crazycam DeleteThis @upturnet.com.au> wrote:
>> OTOH, if you have told the truth, and paid top dollar for the green
>> slip, don't you feel _entitled_ to hit someone?
>
> The premium you pay is based upon the damage someone *assumes*
> (without recourse to anything as potentially helpful as the actual
> numbers collected over decades) you might sustain.
Fark, my next pedestrian green slip will cost a fortune...
- Matt >> Stay informed about: $80 for Greenslip |
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