75 CB500T Clutch Problems

Shoulder bolts? They are not, just regualr m6 bolts. The picture in
the manual didn't look like them.
I'll get some of those, due i get 25m lenght bolt from end to
flange, or 25 from end to end of the threads. Thanks.

And everything is freely moving, except the pressure plate.



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 > Are the m6x25 bolts shoulder bolts? If you used standard bolts and
 > tightened them all the way, the clutch will not release because the
 > pressure plate is not be free to move away from the clutch basket.
 >
 > Did you verify that the clutch release rod moved freely from pulling
 > in the clutch lever, when you had the pressure plate removed? If not,
 > the problem is most likely in the clutch adjuster mechanism in the
 > left crankcase cover.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Nope just regular bolts, manual never said anything about using
shoulder bolts.

how do i get these bolts. 25 from end to flange or 25 from end to
end of threads?

everything is moving freely except for the clutch plate.

thanks


 > Are the m6x25 bolts shoulder bolts? If you used standard bolts and
 > tightened them all the way, the clutch will not release because the
 > pressure plate is not be free to move away from the clutch basket.
 >
 > Did you verify that the clutch release rod moved freely from pulling
 > in the clutch lever, when you had the pressure plate removed? If not,
 > the problem is most likely in the clutch adjuster mechanism in the
 > left crankcase cover.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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elk <terry_mcgehee.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
  >> Are the m6x25 bolts shoulder bolts? If you used standard bolts and
  >> tightened them all the way, the clutch will not release because the
  >> pressure plate is not be free to move away from the clutch basket.
  >>
  >> Did you verify that the clutch release rod moved freely from pulling
  >> in the clutch lever, when you had the pressure plate removed? If not,
  >> the problem is most likely in the clutch adjuster mechanism in the
  >> left crankcase cover.

 > Shoulder bolts? They are not, just regualr m6 bolts. The picture
 > in the manual didn't look like them. I'll get some of those,
 > due i get 25m lenght bolt from end to flange, or 25 from end to end
 > of the threads. Thanks. And everything is freely moving, except
 > the pressure plate.

I also noticed the drawing on partsfish.com didn't look like they were
shoulder bolts, but there has to be some means of keeping the bolts from
tightening down all the way until the pressure plate is completely tight
against the friction plates. I suppose the bolts could simply be made
to bottom out in the tapped holes in the basket, but that would be a
really crap idea, and I doubt that's how Honda chose to do it.

If you buy the bolts from Honda they will be the correct ones. They're
only about $1 each. Don't overtorque these, they are not really very
tight at all in my experience.

Have you got a manual?

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Mark Olson <olsonm RemoveThis @tiny.invalid> wrote:

[re: clutch pressure plate bolts]

 > If you buy the bolts from Honda they will be the correct ones. They're
 > only about $1 each. Don't overtorque these, they are not really very
 > tight at all in my experience.

I would use Loctite on them, though.

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On 13 Apr 2004 10:39:50 -0700, terry_mcgehee RemoveThis @hotmail.com (elk) wrote:

 >Nope just regular bolts, manual never said anything about using
 >shoulder bolts.

The manual is going to assume that you'll replace the bolts with
similar bolts. Otherwise the book would be two feet thick with
something like "be sure to replace the front axle with a similar front
axle" repeated for every single fastener on the bike.


 > how do i get these bolts. 25 from end to flange or 25 from end to
 >end of threads?

You go to a Honda dealer and buy CB500T clutch bolts. You won't find
them anywhere else.

What happened to the bolts you took out?


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 >From: terry_mcgehee DeleteThis @hotmail.com (elk)

 >Shoulder bolts? They are not, just regualr m6 bolts.

When you say "shoulder bolt" I picture the typical bolt which is only threaded
part way and has a slightly larger diameter nearer to the head, only because
that part isn't threaded...

When a manufacturer specifies a 25mm bolt, that is the distance from the end of
the bolt to the underside of the bolt head, whether it is a shoulder bolt or
threaded all the way...

Got spacers?

Sometimes clutch pressure plate assemblies use short aluminum spacers about
10~12mm long that slide over the bolts, so you actually don't use the whole
25mm of threads...

The spacers guide the springs, too. Sometimes the spacers aren't separate, they
are cast into the center hub...

Suzuki clutch pressure plate bolts have separate aluminum spacers so the bolt
can be tightened into the center hub, but the pressure plate is still free to
slide in and out on the spacers...

This saves the clutch manufacturer from having make special pressure plate
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