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Since: Apr 12, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:27 pm
Post subject: '57 panhead starting problems
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:09 pm
Post subject: Re: '57 panhead starting problems [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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bullwy wrote:
> my '57 panhead (12Volt conversion, S+S carb) is very difficult to start
> when the engine is hot/warm. changed breaker, condenser, spark plugs to no
> avail...does anybody have a hint how to overcome this problem??
I take it that it starts just fine when it's cold, and that the distributor
is properly retarded? Have you checked that both spark plugs are firing
when it's hot?
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:54 pm
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bullwy <bullwy.c.DeleteThis@bluemail.ch> wrote in message
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> my '57 panhead (12Volt conversion, S+S carb) is very difficult to start
when
> the engine is hot/warm. changed breaker, condenser, spark plugs to no
> avail...does anybody have a hint how to overcome this problem??
To rich of pilot jet,,,,take it down a couple just to lean it out on purpose
then see what it does. If it starts fine cold, but starts like shit
hot,,,its could be to rich. I've seen it before,,,,done it as a matter of
fact.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:19 pm
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> I take it that it starts just fine when it's cold, and that the
distributor
> is properly retarded? Have you checked that both spark plugs are firing
> when it's hot?
yes, both spark plugs are firing, retarding is ok. is there somethin I could
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:19 pm
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"bullwy" <bullwy.c.TakeThisOut@bluemail.ch> Ran in the back door and shouted
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>> I take it that it starts just fine when it's cold, and that the
> distributor
>> is properly retarded? Have you checked that both spark plugs are
>> firing when it's hot?
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> yes, both spark plugs are firing, retarding is ok. is there somethin I
> could check with the carb?
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>
What color are the plugs? -Should be light tan.
Are both plugs the same color? -If one is darker or black, you may have
an intake leak.
Are the plug(s) wet? -Petcock/carb float needle may be leaking by.
Have you tried a diffrent coil?, [to rule out a heat-related internal
short].
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:21 pm
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 17:27:18 +0200, "bullwy" <bullwy.c RemoveThis @bluemail.ch>
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>my '57 panhead (12Volt conversion, S+S carb) is very difficult to start when
>the engine is hot/warm. changed breaker, condenser, spark plugs to no
>avail...does anybody have a hint how to overcome this problem??
Does yer S&S have an accelerator pump? If so, when it's warm, just
give it about an 1/8 of a turn throttle and kick th' fucker. No need
to give it a few squirts when hot/warm... yer floodin' it.
Snarl... the "betcha $8.00 bucks that works" Asshole(tm)
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:46 pm
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"bullwy" <bullwy.c RemoveThis @bluemail.ch> wrote in message
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> my '57 panhead (12Volt conversion, S+S carb) is very difficult to start
when
> the engine is hot/warm. changed breaker, condenser, spark plugs to no
> avail...does anybody have a hint how to overcome this problem??
Carb idle too rich?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 1:42 am
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"bullwy" <bullwy.c DeleteThis @bluemail.ch> wrote in message
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> my '57 panhead (12Volt conversion, S+S carb) is very difficult to start
when
> the engine is hot/warm. changed breaker, condenser, spark plugs to no
> avail...does anybody have a hint how to overcome this problem??
My shovel would be hard to start when hot if I accidently gave it any gas.
When cold, two short twists would do just fine. But when hot any gas would
cause it to flood and be very hard to start.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:38 pm
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bullwy wrote:
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>> I take it that it starts just fine when it's cold, and that the
> distributor
>> is properly retarded? Have you checked that both spark plugs are firing
>> when it's hot?
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> yes, both spark plugs are firing, retarding is ok. is there somethin I
> could check with the carb?
Barring any electrical issues, then a carb adjustment would seem to be in
order. As others have mentioned here, most likely too rich. A good place
to start would be to lean out the settings a little and see if that helps.
Plug colors are a basic indication as to what's going on (Tan good, dark or
white bad). Be sure to make any final adjustments when the engine is at
operating temperature.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:17 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:17 pm
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bullwy <bullwy.c DeleteThis @bluemail.ch> wrote in message
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> thanks everybody. will try you suggestions tomrrow...
Keep in touch on this. Learning is knowing the results.
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