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(Msg. 31) Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 1:57 am
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 >From: "M. J. Freeman"

 >You do realize your "excuse" isn't a very good one? The bikes your
 >looking at get 40 mpg, and any number of cars now get 35-40 mpg.

Not to mention the car will get 100k out of a set of tires and the bike might
get 6-8k if your lucky. And at $300 a pop installed, any gas savings is
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:31 am
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"Saddlebag" <saddlebag.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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  > >From: "M. J. Freeman"
 >
  > >You do realize your "excuse" isn't a very good one? The bikes your
  > >looking at get 40 mpg, and any number of cars now get 35-40 mpg.
 >
 > Not to mention the car will get 100k out of a set of tires and the bike
might
 > get 6-8k if your lucky. And at $300 a pop installed, any gas savings is
 > trivial.

yeah, but liability insurance for a year on a POS car can run at least $400.
my bike was $50. tires were about $100/each installed. fronts lasted 15k,
rear lasted 8k.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:34 am
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"JD" <forsaleatroadwormdotcom.DeleteThis@readthefirstpart.com> wrote in message
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 > I won't comment on the bikes but may I suggest the Atkins diet Smile I am
not
 > trying to be rude, I was there myself...4 months ago I was 6' 1" and about
 > 260 lbs. Today I am a mere 210 lbs and feeling great! Plus eating on the
 > Atkins diet is cheaper than my previous pasta smorgasbords so it has been
a
 > nice way of saving money.

you obviously dont cook for yourself. i agree with ya on the atkins thing,
but a 5lb bag of pasta or 25lb bag of taters is only a couple bucks. about
the price of 1lb of mid-grade meat.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:04 am
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JD <forsaleatroadwormdotcom.TakeThisOut@readthefirstpart.com> wrote in message
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 > I asked the credit vnion what rate they'd give me, they covld do 9.75%
 > whereas if I financed it throvgh the dealer telling them to finance it
 > throvgh Credit Union...it was only 6.6%. So thats what I did.
 >
 >
That sovnds a little high to me. Talk to yovr bank, I got a personal loan of
$9,000 at 6% last October. So in one sense I paid cash for my bike.

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(Msg. 35) Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:37 am
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 >From: "mike"

 >my bike was $50. tires were about $100/each installed. fronts lasted 15k,
 >rear lasted 8k.
 >

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(Msg. 36) Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 1:38 pm
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I do cook for myself... under Atkins I will have like 3-4 boiled eggs and a
couple glasses of water (ie cost around $0.50) for supper whereas before I
would have a box of kraft dinner and a few weiners and a couple glasses of
coke (probably $2). Or some sphaghetti with alfredo sauce...the pasta is
cheap but it's all the extras that add up. Then some snacks in the evening
like chocolate bar....I hardly snack at all anymore because Atkins is
appetite suppressing.





"mike" <mikein562athotmail RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > "JD" <forsaleatroadwormdotcom RemoveThis @readthefirstpart.com> wrote in message
 > news:10bt65soj7tim82@corp.supernews.com...
  > > I won't comment on the bikes but may I suggest the Atkins diet Smile I am
 > not
  > > trying to be rude, I was there myself...4 months ago I was 6' 1" and
about
  > > 260 lbs. Today I am a mere 210 lbs and feeling great! Plus eating on
the
  > > Atkins diet is cheaper than my previous pasta smorgasbords so it has
been
 > a
  > > nice way of saving money.
 >
 > you obviously dont cook for yourself. i agree with ya on the atkins thing,
 > but a 5lb bag of pasta or 25lb bag of taters is only a couple bucks. about
 > the price of 1lb of mid-grade meat.
 >
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:20 pm
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"mike" <mikein562athotmail RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

 > "JD" <forsaleatroadwormdotcom RemoveThis @readthefirstpart.com> wrote in message
 > news:10bt65soj7tim82@corp.supernews.com...
  > > I won't comment on the bikes but may I suggest the Atkins diet Smile I am
 > not
  > > trying to be rude, I was there myself...4 months ago I was 6' 1" and about
  > > 260 lbs. Today I am a mere 210 lbs and feeling great! Plus eating on the
  > > Atkins diet is cheaper than my previous pasta smorgasbords so it has been
 > a
  > > nice way of saving money.
 >
 > you obviously dont cook for yourself. i agree with ya on the atkins thing,
 > but a 5lb bag of pasta or 25lb bag of taters is only a couple bucks. about
 > the price of 1lb of mid-grade meat.

Try eating some broccoli. Geez you'd think you lived in Ireland about
100 years ago...

Charles

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(Msg. 38) Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:06 pm
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On Thv, 3 Jvn 2004 07:04:27 -1000, "Reassembler"
<Reassembler.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

 >
 >JD <forsaleatroadwormdotcom.RemoveThis@readthefirstpart.com> wrote in message
 >news:10bt5q7d9dotrcc@corp.svpernews.com...
  >> I asked the credit vnion what rate they'd give me, they covld do 9.75%
  >> whereas if I financed it throvgh the dealer telling them to finance it
  >> throvgh Credit Union...it was only 6.6%. So thats what I did.
  >>
  >>
 > That sovnds a little high to me. Talk to yovr bank, I got a personal loan of
 >$9,000 at 6% last October. So in one sense I paid cash for my bike.


No, yov jvst went a different rovte for financing. Wink

Thovgh yovr advice certainly has some technical merit. Often CU's
rates for personal loans are cheaper than their rates for Motorcycle
loans. It also has the added benefit (well benefit if yov can afford
the risk) of not reqviring yov to pvrchase insvrance other than
liability since yov are the title holder.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:12 pm
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On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 12:38:25 -0600, "JD"
<forsaleatroadwormdotcom DeleteThis @readthefirstpart.com> wrote:

 >I do cook for myself... under Atkins I will have like 3-4 boiled eggs and a
 >couple glasses of water (ie cost around $0.50) for supper

While I certainly don't "Live to Eat" a dinner like you describe is
too much "Eat to Live". Wink




 >whereas before I
 >would have a box of kraft dinner and a few weiners and a couple glasses of
 >coke (probably $2). Or some sphaghetti with alfredo sauce...the pasta is
 >cheap but it's all the extras that add up. Then some snacks in the evening
 >like chocolate bar....I hardly snack at all anymore because Atkins is
 >appetite suppressing.

Then again reading about your former meals, they were just as bad.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:14 pm
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JD wrote:
 > I won't comment on the bikes but may I suggest the Atkins diet Smile I am not
 > trying to be rude, I was there myself...4 months ago I was 6' 1" and about
 > 260 lbs. Today I am a mere 210 lbs and feeling great! Plus eating on the
 > Atkins diet is cheaper than my previous pasta smorgasbords so it has been a
 > nice way of saving money. I don't know if I am following the diet exactly
 > as Atkins says, but basically just eat as many green non-carby veggies as I
 > can and a lot of cheese, meat, and of course eggs.

Yes, I have tried it before. My personal opinion is that all of these
"one food type" diets only work because it so greatly limits what you
can eat, you eat less.

Eating a big breakfast actually works for me. I just am not hungry for
much other than small meals the rest of the day.

I spoke to my MD about diets, and he recommended a book called "The
Carbohydrate Addict's Diet." I don't recommend the book, the book
sucks, takes forever to read, and can be summed up a couple sentences.

To sum it up, "Eat only protein, except for 1 hour a day at dinner, and
then eat anything you want, but you can't eat carbs outside of that 1
hour period." The logic is, carbs are addictive, for example, you eat
one potato chip, and then you lightly snack on them for hours, because
they are soo addictive. It's suppose to work better than Atkins. But,
I refer to my previous point, these diets only work because it so
greatly limits what you can eat, you eat less.

But yes, diet is in the plans, more-so, a lifestyle change to be more
active. Part of that is getting a motorcycle! Smile And I put together
my weight bench last night.

But, cutting back to the Daytona vs. the SV650S... The EX250R that my
wife and I were going to share didn't show up by the deadline today, we
got our deposit back. My other thread, stuffing a big thumper into a
sportbike frame also has lead me nowhere. So.... I am still shopping.

Now, I'm starting to think about a XR650R with dualsport kit. At least
it's designed to handle being dropped. It will get me back and forth to
work, good learner bike, and I can play in the desert. Then, my wife
may get a Yamaha TT-R125LE and put a dual sport kit on (Baja Designs
makes one, but I posted in the off-road forum for help and can't find
DOT tires for it!).

After 3 weeks of shopping and waiting, I'm leaning heavily towards cheap
now, more later. XR650R is not available cheap used, unless I go back
to a 1987 or something. So, I have NO IDEA NOW. I feel like I have
went in circles a couple times, street, dirt, sport, touring, thumper,
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:54 am
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Yeah, a ZRX1200 would be a better choice for a heavier man, and someone with
less experience, for sure.


"Saddlebag" <saddlebag.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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  > >From: "Simpledog"
 >
  > >Then an SV1000s would be a good bet. I just bought one,
  > >http://home.mminternet.com/~simpledog/SV1000.JPG, and it rides nicely.
Not
  > >much for 2 up I'm afraid.
 >
 > NIce Simp, but that twin is a much less beginner friendly motor than an
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:48 am
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Finally someone sees the big picture (if he wants economy that is!). The
montlhy payment plus the insurance are a hell of lot more than the gas
saving! You would need to get 200mpg and be putting on a couple thousand
miles a month to justify the cost.

 >
 > If you're looking at just a commuter bike to save money on gasoline, why
are
 > you looking for something new? All you'd be doing is spending $6,000 up
 > front to save $25 a week. It'll take you a LOOOOONG time pay for a new
bike
 > at that rate. I just bought a 1981 CB650 for the wife for $1,000. It's
 > intended to be her learner bike but it'll probably end up being our only
bike
 > by this time next year. It'll get 40+ mpg for a LOT less cost than a new
 > SV650.
 >
 > -Chris-<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:50 am
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Mini Cooper S

"Vic Sagerquist" <address.DeleteThis@withheld.com> wrote in message
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 > One day in rec.motorcycles, Also Sprach M. J. Freeman:
 >
  > >You do realize your "excuse" isn't a very good one? The bikes your
  > >looking at get 40 mpg, and any number of cars now get 35-40 mpg.
 >
 > What kind of "fun" cage gets that kind of mileage?
 >
 > --
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 9:43 pm
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I have went in circles a couple times, street, dirt, sport, touring,
thumper, twin, I-4, rinse and repeat. My wife and I have finally
decided. Putter around in the dirt, don't worry so much about dropping
them, learn to ride. The search is over, new bikes are in my garage!

Photos of the bikes:

http://currentek.com/~rob/bike/
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:01 pm
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I don't know where you are, but if you aren't in California you can look
into getting those street legal. The little one won't be too good for much
distance, but the wr450 will be fine for commuting. That will give you some
options. I will take my DRZ out on the local roads and find areas where
they are putting in new subdivisions. When they clear the trees for the
roads, but before they get all the grading done it is a blast. Better than
trailering my bike to get to a real dirt riding area and I can do it in the
evenings after work.

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"RWC" <user.TakeThisOut@example.net> wrote in message
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 > I have went in circles a couple times, street, dirt, sport, touring,
 > thumper, twin, I-4, rinse and repeat. My wife and I have finally
 > decided. Putter around in the dirt, don't worry so much about dropping
 > them, learn to ride. The search is over, new bikes are in my garage!
 >
 > Photos of the bikes:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://currentek.com/~rob/bike/</font" target="_blank">http://currentek.com/~rob/bike/</font</a>>
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