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Lozzo

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:59 am
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Rope says...
 > Lozzo spoke:
  > > Bandits are very crashable bikes. I'm amazed at how much shit they'll
  > > take before they're terminally wrecked. Dirt cheap to repair too. Make
  > > sure you fit quality engine protector bars if it doesn't already have
  > > them, and check the crankcases at their widest point for damage
  > > underneath.
 >
 > What happened to the issue of the rear footrest hangers?

It's still there on pre 2000 bikes, but easily repaired.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:45 pm
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In uk.rec.motorcycles, Jach said:

 > Hi all,
 >
 > Got my CBT next week and then booked a course for my full licence.
 >
 > Looking to purchase a bike ready for when i've got my full. Have a budget
 > of £2000 - £2500.
 >
 > Anyone recommend a good first bike round 500 - 600cc that won't punish me
 > too much?
 >
 > Like the Honda CB500 or a CB600F Hornet.

Go for a Bandit. They're cheap to run and cheap to repair.

I used to get knocked off mine about once a month and used to crash
about as often, the last one finished it off for me though Smile

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:17 pm
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"Whinging Courier" wrote in message ...

 >
 > Go for a Bandit. They're cheap to run and cheap to repair.

Thanks all for your advice and experiences. Do you recommend the "naked" or
"faired" version? Will be used for work (nice days) and weekend visits to
the pennines.. just up the road from me Smile

 > I used to get knocked off mine about once a month and used to crash
 > about as often, the last one finished it off for me though Smile
 >

I've heard alot about people being knocked off their bikes and involved in
accidents. Are your knocks due to your own error or other motorists?

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 5:46 pm
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Jach wrote:

 > "Whinging Courier" wrote in message ...
 >
  >>Go for a Bandit. They're cheap to run and cheap to repair.
 >
 > Thanks all for your advice and experiences. Do you recommend the "naked" or
 > "faired" version? Will be used for work (nice days) and weekend visits to
 > the pennines.. just up the road from me Smile

You choose. I had a faired Bandit, but went naked when I bought the SV.
I fitted a fly screen to the SV which makes a good difference. Where
I park sometimes there's a naked Bandit with the same screen: it looks
good.


One side panel for a faired Bandit is about £90. (the older model, that
is, I don't know about the new ones.)

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The Older Gentlema2

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:36 pm
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Jach <jach DeleteThis @nospamadam.com> wrote:

 > I've heard alot about people being knocked off their bikes and involved in
 > accidents. Are your knocks due to your own error or other motorists?

Experienced riders tend to get knocked off my errant motorists.

Newbies ditto, but they also manage to crash unaided - much more
frequently.


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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 7:40 pm
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In uk.rec.motorcycles, Jach said:

 > Thanks all for your advice and experiences. Do you recommend the "naked" or
 > "faired" version? Will be used for work (nice days) and weekend visits to
 > the pennines.. just up the road from me Smile

Your choice but I reckon the naked looks better. The screen on the S
will keep some of the wind off but makes the whole thing look ghastly
IMO.

 > I've heard alot about people being knocked off their bikes and involved in
 > accidents. Are your knocks due to your own error or other motorists?

Mostly due to motorists not looking but sometimes the odd patch of
diesel, gravel, poorly surfaced roads and two pedestrians.

BTW, if you do decide for a bandit and fit engine bars, don't lean so
far that they touch down. You can get away with it once or twice but
eventually you'll crash Smile

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 9:59 pm
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On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 18:40:39 +0100, Whinging Courier
<markonusenetTAKEITAWAY.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

 >In uk.rec.motorcycles, Jach said:
 >
  >> Thanks all for your advice and experiences. Do you recommend the "naked" or
  >> "faired" version? Will be used for work (nice days) and weekend visits to
  >> the pennines.. just up the road from me Smile
 >
 >Your choice but I reckon the naked looks better. The screen on the S
 >will keep some of the wind off but makes the whole thing look ghastly
 >IMO.

It does look shite and makes the bike feel like a barge to ride[1] but
it's pretty effective. I had a new shape one as a courtesy bike when
the GSXR was in for a service and it was very comfortable on the
motorway.



[1] Feels like the front is miles away from you. Guess it's because
I'm used to sportsbikes and being right by the screen.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:22 pm
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"The Older Gentleman" <chateauSPAMKILL.murray RemoveThis @dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
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 > Jach <jach RemoveThis @nospamadam.com> wrote:
 >
  > > I've heard alot about people being knocked off their bikes and involved
in
  > > accidents. Are your knocks due to your own error or other motorists?
 >
 > Experienced riders tend to get knocked off my errant motorists.
 >
 > Newbies ditto, but they also manage to crash unaided - much more
 > frequently.

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:31 pm
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On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 21:22:07 +0100, "Porl" <porlp RemoveThis @btinternet.com>
wrote:

 >
 >"The Older Gentleman" <chateauSPAMKILL.murray RemoveThis @dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
 >message news:1gex4eq.2mumo6gsmyvsN%chateauSPAMKILL.murray@dsl.pipex.com...
  >> Jach <jach RemoveThis @nospamadam.com> wrote:
  >>
   >> > I've heard alot about people being knocked off their bikes and involved
 >in
   >> > accidents. Are your knocks due to your own error or other motorists?
  >>
  >> Experienced riders tend to get knocked off my errant motorists.
  >>
  >> Newbies ditto, but they also manage to crash unaided - much more
  >> frequently.
 >
 >- often due to unscrubbed tyres.

<looks the other way>
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:29 am
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"Jach" <jach.RemoveThis@nospamadam.com> wrote in message
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 > Hi all,
 >
 > Got my CBT next week and then booked a course for my full licence.
 >
 > Looking to purchase a bike ready for when i've got my full. Have a budget
 > of £2000 - £2500.
 >
 > Anyone recommend a good first bike round 500 - 600cc that won't punish me
 > too much?
 >
 > Like the Honda CB500 or a CB600F Hornet.
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 > Jach
 >
 > hornets a good choice , reasonable on insurance ,inexpensive to buy ,
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:13 am
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Jach wrote:

 > "Whinging Courier" wrote in message ...
 >
  > >
  > > Go for a Bandit. They're cheap to run and cheap to repair.
 >
 > Thanks all for your advice and experiences. Do you recommend the
 > "naked" or "faired" version? Will be used for work (nice days) and
 > weekend visits to the pennines.. just up the road from me Smile

I chose naked because I prefer the look but I also believe that a
faired model would cost more to insure due to the cost of fairing
damage in a spill - although SWK is welcome to jump in here.

I commute on the motorway all year and don't really have a problem with
a lack of fairing. Although I had a ZX9R for a couple of days recently
and while I rather liked being tucked down behind the screen on the
motorway I hated being in town traffic on it.

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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:06 pm
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In uk.rec.motorcycles, Ben said:

 > It does look shite and makes the bike feel like a barge to ride[1] but
 > it's pretty effective. I had a new shape one as a courtesy bike when
 > the GSXR was in for a service and it was very comfortable on the
 > motorway.

I'd happily buy another Bandit if one came along for the right price.
Bloody good bikes IMO.

 > [1] Feels like the front is miles away from you. Guess it's because
 > I'm used to sportsbikes and being right by the screen.

Maybe it's just the bike I'm riding but I find having a screen and
fairing makes going fast too easy Smile

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(Msg. 28) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:42 am
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rb wrote:

 > Jach wrote:
 >
  >> "Whinging Courier" wrote in message ...
  >>
   >> >
   >> > Go for a Bandit. They're cheap to run and cheap to repair.
  >>
  >> Thanks all for your advice and experiences. Do you recommend the
  >> "naked" or "faired" version? Will be used for work (nice days) and
  >> weekend visits to the pennines.. just up the road from me Smile
 >
 > I chose naked because I prefer the look but I also believe that a
 > faired model would cost more to insure due to the cost of fairing
 > damage in a spill - although SWK is welcome to jump in here.
 >
 > I commute on the motorway all year and don't really have a problem with
 > a lack of fairing. Although I had a ZX9R for a couple of days recently
 > and while I rather liked being tucked down behind the screen on the
 > motorway I hated being in town traffic on it.
 >

I liked the naked bandit to look at, but when looking didn't count out the
faired model. I saw a 1999 Bindit 600S in as new condition advertised at
2200, didn't think the guy would bite so offered him £1800. he accepted, I
bought myself a bike and dont regret it. The fairing makes longer jaunts a
breeze, and gives you something to tuck behind. Also it was no more
expensive to insure than a naked bindit. However, It's too big for my
current address[1] so resides at my parents place as my weekend toy while I
try and convince the wife to let me buy a second bike (125/250) for
commuting.

[1] The bike has to go through my hallway to get into it's 'secure compound'
otherwise I have to rely on on-street parking, which is not recommended in
my pikey neighbourhood.

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(Msg. 29) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 5:40 am
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 > Suzuki 600 Bandit? You can get a bloody nice one for that sort of dosh.
 > And it's more of a "real" bike than a Honda 500 twin IMHO.

Agree about the Bandit 6. Frankly I wouldn't rule out the Bandit 12.
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:55 pm
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Hey Jach! did you pass yet?
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