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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:17 pm
Post subject: 1973 Honda CB350 - how much power?
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Greetings. I have a general question and very much grateful for any
feedback.
I have recently moved from the flat midwest to the hilly san francisco
area.
I found a beautiful deal on a 73 Honda cb350... I realize that these
engines need constant tinkering. that is not the problem, this one has
low milage and lots of life still left.
My question is whether a 350 engine can generate enough juice to be
more than just a recreational bike. I would love to become the owner
of this if it can actually be expected to climb some hills (and even
carry a pasenger). Is this just wishful thinking?
Back in chicago i was riding a 76 CB750.. Not looking for lots of of
power necessarily, just functionality. what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:49 am
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Ig wrote:
> Greetings. I have a general question and very much grateful for any
> feedback.
> I have recently moved from the flat midwest to the hilly san francisco
> area.
> I found a beautiful deal on a 73 Honda cb350... I realize that these
> engines need constant tinkering. that is not the problem, this one has
> low milage and lots of life still left.
> My question is whether a 350 engine can generate enough juice to be
> more than just a recreational bike. I would love to become the owner
> of this if it can actually be expected to climb some hills (and even
> carry a pasenger). Is this just wishful thinking?
>
In 1968 I had a CB160 that was 16HP. It was big enough for the freeways
and I drove from California to Alabama with no problems, and it was no
problem full throttle all day. The only problem was when I had it bored
to 175cc and the shop that installed the high compression cam left the
original valves springs in, as well as adding the new ones, so the
rocker arms chewed the cams up.
Now my Honda 50 was a different matter as it always slowed climbing
hills. On the 160 though I used to try for double the speed limit, plus
5 and I never could quite get it to 75MPH before I had to brake.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:40 am
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Ig <elrogigor DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> My question is whether a 350 engine can generate enough juice to be
> more than just a recreational bike. I would love to become the owner
> of this if it can actually be expected to climb some hills (and even
> carry a pasenger).
Yes
>Is this just wishful thinking?
No
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:27 am
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On 12 Mar 2007 22:17:31 -0700, "Ig" <elrogigor.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>Greetings. I have a general question and very much grateful for any
>feedback.
>I have recently moved from the flat midwest to the hilly san francisco
>area.
>I found a beautiful deal on a 73 Honda cb350... I realize that these
>engines need constant tinkering. that is not the problem, this one has
>low milage and lots of life still left.
>My question is whether a 350 engine can generate enough juice to be
>more than just a recreational bike. I would love to become the owner
>of this if it can actually be expected to climb some hills (and even
>carry a pasenger). Is this just wishful thinking?
>Back in chicago i was riding a 76 CB750.. Not looking for lots of of
>power necessarily, just functionality. what do you think?
>Thanks in advance.
>IR
34 HP. You're not really gonna want to climb hills or carry
passengers on it too often.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:59 pm
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Ig wrote:
> Greetings. I have a general question and very much grateful for any
> feedback.
> I have recently moved from the flat midwest to the hilly san francisco
> area.
> I found a beautiful deal on a 73 Honda cb350... I realize that these
> engines need constant tinkering. that is not the problem, this one has
> low milage and lots of life still left.
> My question is whether a 350 engine can generate enough juice to be
> more than just a recreational bike. I would love to become the owner
> of this if it can actually be expected to climb some hills (and even
> carry a pasenger). Is this just wishful thinking?
> Back in chicago i was riding a 76 CB750.. Not looking for lots of of
> power necessarily, just functionality. what do you think?
> Thanks in advance.
> IR
>
Amoung other problems IIRC: you have to remember the 350 was really only
a ~323cc bike. There's only so much water in the well.
I thought by '73 they switched from CV to regular carbs which derated
the engine a bit. If it has the CV carbs, the good news is it probably
produces a few more HP then later models. The bad news is the silicon
diaphrams in those go out. In any case if it is running right you can
expect speeds in the 70-80 MPH range.
The 350s do seem to have their fan base. I think a ~1971 350SL recently
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:14 pm
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:54:41 GMT, Rick Cortese
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>Ig wrote:
>> Greetings. I have a general question and very much grateful for any
>> feedback.
>> I have recently moved from the flat midwest to the hilly san francisco
>> area.
>> I found a beautiful deal on a 73 Honda cb350... I realize that these
>> engines need constant tinkering. that is not the problem, this one has
>> low milage and lots of life still left.
>> My question is whether a 350 engine can generate enough juice to be
>> more than just a recreational bike. I would love to become the owner
>> of this if it can actually be expected to climb some hills (and even
>> carry a pasenger). Is this just wishful thinking?
>> Back in chicago i was riding a 76 CB750.. Not looking for lots of of
>> power necessarily, just functionality. what do you think?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> IR
>>
>
>Amoung other problems IIRC: you have to remember the 350 was really only
>a ~323cc bike. There's only so much water in the well.
>
>I thought by '73 they switched from CV to regular carbs which derated
>the engine a bit. If it has the CV carbs, the good news is it probably
>produces a few more HP then later models. The bad news is the silicon
>diaphrams in those go out. In any case if it is running right you can
>expect speeds in the 70-80 MPH range.
>
>The 350s do seem to have their fan base. I think a ~1971 350SL recently
>sold for ~$10k.
Ummm... yeh.
But that's a Mercedes convertible sports coupe.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:54 pm
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<.p.jm.DeleteThis@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote:
> On 12 Mar 2007 22:17:31 -0700, "Ig" <elrogigor.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Greetings. I have a general question and very much grateful for any
> >feedback.
> >I have recently moved from the flat midwest to the hilly san francisco
> >area.
> >I found a beautiful deal on a 73 Honda cb350... I realize that these
> >engines need constant tinkering. that is not the problem, this one has
> >low milage and lots of life still left.
> >My question is whether a 350 engine can generate enough juice to be
> >more than just a recreational bike. I would love to become the owner
> >of this if it can actually be expected to climb some hills (and even
> >carry a pasenger). Is this just wishful thinking?
> >Back in chicago i was riding a 76 CB750.. Not looking for lots of of
> >power necessarily, just functionality. what do you think?
> >Thanks in advance.
> >IR
>
> 34 HP. You're not really gonna want to climb hills or carry
> passengers on it too often.
*Shrug*. I dunno. Given US sped limits, if you cruise it at 65mph it
should be fine.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:54 pm
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<.p.jm RemoveThis @see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote:
> >The 350s do seem to have their fan base. I think a ~1971 350SL recently
> >sold for ~$10k.
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> Ummm... yeh.
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> But that's a Mercedes convertible sports coupe.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:04 pm
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:45:25 +0000,
chateau.murray.takethisout.RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
><.p.jm.RemoveThis@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote:
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>> On 12 Mar 2007 22:17:31 -0700, "Ig" <elrogigor.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Greetings. I have a general question and very much grateful for any
>> >feedback.
>> >I have recently moved from the flat midwest to the hilly san francisco
>> >area.
>> >I found a beautiful deal on a 73 Honda cb350... I realize that these
>> >engines need constant tinkering. that is not the problem, this one has
>> >low milage and lots of life still left.
>> >My question is whether a 350 engine can generate enough juice to be
>> >more than just a recreational bike. I would love to become the owner
>> >of this if it can actually be expected to climb some hills (and even
>> >carry a pasenger). Is this just wishful thinking?
>> >Back in chicago i was riding a 76 CB750.. Not looking for lots of of
>> >power necessarily, just functionality. what do you think?
>> >Thanks in advance.
>> >IR
>>
>> 34 HP. You're not really gonna want to climb hills or carry
>> passengers on it too often.
>
>*Shrug*. I dunno. Given US sped limits, if you cruise it at 65mph it
>should be fine.
Just my recollection of my CB360 from that time.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:30 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:08 am
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On 14 Mar, 15:24, Zaphod Beeblebrock
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> I've owned a couple of the early '70s CL360s and, after a bit of
> tinkering[1], could get them up past 120mph. Carrying a passenger was
> never a problem either...but, I only weigh about 140lbs and it doesn't
> take too many horses to pull my bean-pole bod down the road.
> (Unfortunately, even at that light weight they don't fly very well, even
> at 120+mph, after leaving said road on a banked curve. They aren't much
> good for riding on afterward, either.)
>
> [1]The tinkering was mostly just fine-tuning the motor and changing the
> rear sprocket and the chain.
>
Blimey. To get a 360 to that sort of speed would need booster rckets,
I'd have thought.
I've alway liked the style of the CL series. Shame we never got them
in the UK, although there are quite a few that have been re-imported
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:19 am
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On 14 Mar, 17:21, Mark Olson <ols....DeleteThis@tiny.invalid> wrote:
> chateau.mur....DeleteThis@btinternet.com wrote:
> > On 14 Mar, 15:24, Zaphod Beeblebrock
> > <Zap....DeleteThis@TheUniverseTheRestaurant.com> wrote:
>
> >>I've owned a couple of the early '70s CL360s and, after a bit of
> >>tinkering[1], could get them up past 120mph. Carrying a passenger was
> >>never a problem either...but, I only weigh about 140lbs and it doesn't
> >>take too many horses to pull my bean-pole bod down the road.
> >>(Unfortunately, even at that light weight they don't fly very well, even
> >>at 120+mph, after leaving said road on a banked curve. They aren't much
> >>good for riding on afterward, either.)
>
> >>[1]The tinkering was mostly just fine-tuning the motor and changing the
> >>rear sprocket and the chain.
>
> > Blimey. To get a 360 to that sort of speed would need booster rockets,
> > I'd have thought.
>
> This sounds suspiciously like the guy who claimed he got his stock CB900C
> to 160 mph just by carefully tweaking the carbs. When a couple of people
> told him he was dreaming he got a bit upset.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer/msg/c5f...
>
Heh. Yes, exactly the same. My old CB360 would do about 95+ indicated,
flat out. To get one to do a genuine 120mph would require serious deep
surgery. And a tuned speedometer as well. The old SOHC 750s would just
about hit 120 on a good day, but most of the time 110-115 was your
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:21 am
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chateau.murray DeleteThis @btinternet.com wrote:
> On 14 Mar, 15:24, Zaphod Beeblebrock
> <Zap... DeleteThis @TheUniverseTheRestaurant.com> wrote:
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>>I've owned a couple of the early '70s CL360s and, after a bit of
>>tinkering[1], could get them up past 120mph. Carrying a passenger was
>>never a problem either...but, I only weigh about 140lbs and it doesn't
>>take too many horses to pull my bean-pole bod down the road.
>>(Unfortunately, even at that light weight they don't fly very well, even
>>at 120+mph, after leaving said road on a banked curve. They aren't much
>>good for riding on afterward, either.)
>>
>>[1]The tinkering was mostly just fine-tuning the motor and changing the
>>rear sprocket and the chain.
>>
>
>
> Blimey. To get a 360 to that sort of speed would need booster rckets,
> I'd have thought.
This sounds suspiciously like the guy who claimed he got his stock CB900C
to 160 mph just by carefully tweaking the carbs. When a couple of people
told him he was dreaming he got a bit upset.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:52 am
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:04:37 -0500, wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:45:25 +0000,
> chateau.murray.takethisout.RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
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>><.p.jm.RemoveThis@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 Mar 2007 22:17:31 -0700, "Ig" <elrogigor.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Greetings. I have a general question and very much grateful for any
>>> >feedback.
>>> >I have recently moved from the flat midwest to the hilly san francisco
>>> >area.
>>> >I found a beautiful deal on a 73 Honda cb350... I realize that these
>>> >engines need constant tinkering. that is not the problem, this one has
>>> >low milage and lots of life still left. My question is whether a 350
>>> >engine can generate enough juice to be more than just a recreational
>>> >bike. I would love to become the owner of this if it can actually be
>>> >expected to climb some hills (and even carry a pasenger). Is this just
>>> >wishful thinking? Back in chicago i was riding a 76 CB750.. Not
>>> >looking for lots of of power necessarily, just functionality. what do
>>> >you think? Thanks in advance.
>>> >IR
>>>
>>> 34 HP. You're not really gonna want to climb hills or carry
>>> passengers on it too often.
>>
>>*Shrug*. I dunno. Given US sped limits, if you cruise it at 65mph it
>>should be fine.
>
> Just my recollection of my CB360 from that time.
I've owned a couple of the early '70s CL360s and, after a bit of
tinkering[1], could get them up past 120mph. Carrying a passenger was
never a problem either...but, I only weigh about 140lbs and it doesn't
take too many horses to pull my bean-pole bod down the road.
(Unfortunately, even at that light weight they don't fly very well, even
at 120+mph, after leaving said road on a banked curve. They aren't much
good for riding on afterward, either.)
[1]The tinkering was mostly just fine-tuning the motor and changing the
rear sprocket and the chain.
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On 14 Mar 2007 10:19:43 -0700, chateau.murray DeleteThis @btinternet.com,
<chateau.murray DeleteThis @btinternet.com> wrote:
>On 14 Mar, 17:21, Mark Olson <ols... DeleteThis @tiny.invalid> wrote:
>> chateau.mur... DeleteThis @btinternet.com wrote:
>> > On 14 Mar, 15:24, Zaphod Beeblebrock
>> > <Zap... DeleteThis @TheUniverseTheRestaurant.com> wrote:
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>> >>I've owned a couple of the early '70s CL360s and, after a bit of
>> >>tinkering[1], could get them up past 120mph. Carrying a passenger was
>> >>never a problem either...but, I only weigh about 140lbs and it doesn't
>> >>take too many horses to pull my bean-pole bod down the road.
>> >>(Unfortunately, even at that light weight they don't fly very well, even
>> >>at 120+mph, after leaving said road on a banked curve. They aren't much
>> >>good for riding on afterward, either.)
>>
>> >>[1]The tinkering was mostly just fine-tuning the motor and changing the
>> >>rear sprocket and the chain.
>>
>> > Blimey. To get a 360 to that sort of speed would need booster rockets,
>> > I'd have thought.
>>
>> This sounds suspiciously like the guy who claimed he got his stock CB900C
>> to 160 mph just by carefully tweaking the carbs. When a couple of people
>> told him he was dreaming he got a bit upset.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer/msg/c5f...
>>
>
>Heh. Yes, exactly the same. My old CB360 would do about 95+ indicated,
Mine did > 100 ( barely ), given a really long downhill and a
sufficient tailwind 
>flat out. To get one to do a genuine 120mph would require serious deep
>surgery. And a tuned speedometer as well. The old SOHC 750s would just
>about hit 120 on a good day, but most of the time 110-115 was your
>lot. No way would a 360 twin get anywhere near that speed.
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